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Re: CB Draft 2011 Pacific Division Press Conferences
« Reply #60 on: July 25, 2011, 03:40:57 PM »

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And since you favor the Warriors I'd be more than happy to have a point/counterpoint. I still haven't decided my rankings yet here.

You could possibly boil the regular season argument down to a matter of depth alone. Even if it isn't as fun as point/counterpoint and it clearly isn't an argument that swayed voters last season. (Although it did carry Roy and Edgar to a title once.)

I also believe you're doing a disservice to Who's Suns by leaving them out of the discussion. Roy is right, James has a track record of regular season success. But then how often do Ginobili, Odom, and Kidd miss the playoffs? Let alone those three together.

But lastly, and saddest, given how little success I've had agitating for my own teams, I'd just be doing Champkind a disservice.

Re: CB Draft 2011 Pacific Division Press Conferences
« Reply #61 on: July 25, 2011, 04:05:39 PM »

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First off I am not being reticent in answering questions, I am still in Puerto Rico on vacation and internet access is limited. So detail in answering while typing with fat thumbs on my Droid and without a way to do research is not easy.

Second, sorry but the minutes question has always been one I thought  really, really dumb, no disrespect intended. Starters plat starters minutes. Bench players plat bench players minutes. Sixth men play almost starter minutes.

I have seen for years people putting down specific answers to minutes questions andthen have people pick apart those specitic for a simple minute or three.

LeBron will play superstar minutes.
The starters will play starters minutes.
The bench bench minutes as needed with oess in the playoffs

Re: CB Draft 2011 Pacific Division Press Conferences
« Reply #62 on: July 25, 2011, 04:14:33 PM »

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But lastly, and saddest, given how little success I've had agitating for my own teams, I'd just be doing Champkind a disservice.

Oh jeez. Somebody go tell Eeyore that I found his raincloud. WW won't let go of it.

So here is how I see the division:

SUNS
PG - Jason Kidd, Ben Gordon, Greivis Vasquez
SG - Manu Ginobili, Ben Gordon
SF - Marvin Williams, Mickael Pietrus, Marcus Morris
PF - Lamar Odom, Markieff Morris, Ersan Ilyasova, Ben Wallace
C - Andrew Bynum, Omer Asik

Like: Cohesion, vet leadership, versatility both offensively and defensively. 
Don't Like: Gambling on Gino and Kidd are risky propositions to me, because both guys are getting older (Gino will be 34, Kidd 38), and should be declining further. Something about starting Marvin Williams rubs me the wrong way, but maybe that's Hawks' bias.

Golden State Warriors  GM: Champkind
PG Stephen Curry/ Andre Miller/ Steve Blake
SG Sam Young/ Rodrigue Beaubois/ Corey Brewer
SF Nicolas Batum/ Thaddeus Young
PF Dirk Nowitzki/ Derrick Favors
C Marcus Camby/ David Lee

Like: Riding the Dirk Nowitzki feel-good wave, pairing him with Stephen Curry in the back-court, putting high-energy players around him, and a defensive-minded center up front. Quality depth pretty much everywhere.
Don't Like: The other 28 minutes a game when Camby isn't playing center. Sam Young's lack of a 3pt shot and lack of a rep as a defensive stopper. That's who they needed here. Lack of depth at the 3.

Los Angeles Conspiracy  GM: jgod213
PG Ty Lawson/ D.J. Augustin/ Gilbert Arenas
SG Kevin Martin/ Ronnie Brewer
SF Stephen Jackson/ Kawhi Leonard
PF Serge Ibaka/ Josh McRoberts/ Vladimir Radmanovic
C DeAndre Jordan/ Darko Milicic/ Bismack Biyombo

Like: Athletic frontcourt w/lots of potential, Lawson/Martin/Jackson seem like a pretty ideal 1-3 combo in terms of offensive skill sets. Should surprise people defensively at the 3-5. Should be better than average most nights.
Don't like: Depth at the 5, 4, 3, 2, and 1 all have a lot to prove. Weak defense in the back court paired with inexperienced defense in the front court with nobody who really knows how to run a really good teams' defense anywhere to be found is troubling.

Sacramento Kings GMs: Rondo2287/nickagneta  Coach: Lawrence Frank
PG Chauncey Billups/ Brandon Jennings/ Eddie Houe
SG Wes Matthews/ Gary Neal
SF Lebron James/ Mike Miller/ Chris Singleton
PF Paul Millsap/ Boris Diaw/ Jared Jeffries
C Tyson Chandler/ Nazr Mohammed

Like: Nice balance of offense/defense, nice balance of leadership/ability, best player in the league.
Don't like: Depth at the 5,3,2 and 1. Maybe I'm soured on some of these guys irrationally, but it is what it is. I was the biggest Brandon Jennings proponent you'll find in this draft last season, but between finding his own flaws on my own, and watching him just absolutely face-plant this year, I don't know how he'll respond here. I like Gary Neal in principal, but speaking as guy bitten once before, the Sophomore Slump is a real thing and should be feared. Mike Miller has undergone two separate surgeries since the season ended, and on top of that everyone in Miami agrees that the best thing for the Heat next season is if Miller plays a little better, so they can trade him (do I sound bitter mike? Serves you right for letting me believe!). Diaw is the best of the group, but even he was better for Charlotte's defense off the court than on it last year. Nazr Mohommed should ideally be a 3rd center, not a second, but considering the Kings drafting position, he's a decent fit here.

BEST STARTING 5: Kings

BEST DEPTH: Warriors

BEST OFFENSIVE: Warriors

BEST DEFENSIVE: KINGS

PLAYOFF LOCKS: KINGS, WARRIORS

GONNA NEED TO SEE EVERYONE ELSE: SUNS, LAKERS

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Re: CB Draft 2011 Pacific Division Press Conferences
« Reply #63 on: July 25, 2011, 04:14:59 PM »

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First off I am not being reticent in answering questions, I am still in Puerto Rico on vacation and internet access is limited. So detail in answering while typing with fat thumbs on my Droid and without a way to do research is not easy.

Second, sorry but the minutes question has always been one I thought  really, really dumb, no disrespect intended. Starters plat starters minutes. Bench players plat bench players minutes. Sixth men play almost starter minutes.

I have seen for years people putting down specific answers to minutes questions andthen have people pick apart those specitic for a simple minute or three.

LeBron will play superstar minutes.
The starters will play starters minutes.
The bench bench minutes as needed with oess in the playoffs

Answer the Mike Miller/Tyson Chandler question!

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Re: CB Draft 2011 Pacific Division Press Conferences
« Reply #64 on: July 25, 2011, 04:17:32 PM »

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First off I am not being reticent in answering questions, I am still in Puerto Rico on vacation and internet access is limited. So detail in answering while typing with fat thumbs on my Droid and without a way to do research is not easy.

Second, sorry but the minutes question has always been one I thought  really, really dumb, no disrespect intended. Starters plat starters minutes. Bench players plat bench players minutes. Sixth men play almost starter minutes.

I have seen for years people putting down specific answers to minutes questions andthen have people pick apart those specitic for a simple minute or three.

LeBron will play superstar minutes.
The starters will play starters minutes.
The bench bench minutes as needed with oess in the playoffs

I disagree though. I think minutes matter. Are you killing your starters throughout the regular season? How many minutes are you giving to guys who consistently go down with injuries? I think these things do matter a bit.

Take my team for example. I think I have to document KG's minutes. I can't just say he has starter's minutes. Also what determine's a superstar exactly? Kg is still a superstar even his play isn't up there with LeBrons. He still gets endorsements like a superstar. It's too vague to say "starter's minutes". Just put down the minutes so we know when your team is most vulnerable and for how long when your weaker rotation guys are playing.


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Re: CB Draft 2011 Pacific Division Press Conferences
« Reply #65 on: July 25, 2011, 04:20:56 PM »

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First off I am not being reticent in answering questions
Yes you are, see below.
Second, sorry but the minutes question has always been one I thought  really, really dumb, no disrespect intended. Starters plat starters minutes. Bench players plat bench players minutes. Sixth men play almost starter minutes.

I have seen for years people putting down specific answers to minutes questions andthen have people pick apart those specitic for a simple minute or three.
Rotations are more complicated that that Nick and you know it. Look at the real life Celtics: they had to juggle KG's starter minutes while trying to maximize his impact because of their lack of quality defensive big men besides him. This lead to a lot of BBD at the PF and other poor defensive C (Krstic/Semih/etc) hurting the C's out of proportion to their minutes played.

LeBron will play superstar minutes.
The starters will play starters minutes.
The bench bench minutes as needed with oess in the playoffs
I have to assume you have no set rotation beyond the starters then and your players don't know what role they'll play from game to game. Plus even your starters might get inconsistent minutes from gaem to game (in how many 34, then 40, etc.)

Beyond this specific team for this year's CB Draft:
Is it a good thing for the game to have GMs dodge questions to avoid criticism? I think it sucks.

Re: CB Draft 2011 Pacific Division Press Conferences
« Reply #66 on: July 25, 2011, 04:48:38 PM »

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Is it a good thing for the game to have GMs dodge questions to avoid criticism? I think it sucks.

Without talking about any specific team:  Yes, GMs that speak "politically" will do a disservice to the game, if only because it takes away what the core of this exercise was supposed to be about.

When CFF and I started this thing back in 2007, there was no voting.  The fun was supposed to be the journey of picking teams.  We came up with the "press conference" idea, because GMs had lived and breathed these teams for weeks.  Answering questions and talking about your team was seen as a big part of the fun, as you could talk about your vision.  It was supposed to be fun.

Now, since voting is involved, many GMs refuse to be candid.  The draft has become an exercise in winning, and who can argue the best.  As our politicians have shown us, sometimes when you don't have an answer to a question, the best choice is to refuse to answer it (or to deflect attention away from it).  In the CB Draft, much like in politics, that isn't a good thing.

What do you do about it?  Short of eliminating voting, I'm not sure there's a lot that can be done.  Many people will answer questions in a way that ensures them the best result on the ballot.


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Re: CB Draft 2011 Pacific Division Press Conferences
« Reply #67 on: July 25, 2011, 04:51:28 PM »

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Beyond this specific team for this year's CB Draft:
Is it a good thing for the game to have GMs dodge questions to avoid criticism? I think it sucks.

No one should dodge questions. If THIS team doesn't have a sound plan then LBJ will be a problem. Look what he did to Mike Brown in cleveland and how he has been with Spoelstra thus far! You think little baby faced Lawrence Frank can command this guy's respect?

I think this is an issue! Who stands up to LBJ and asks him to cut all the nonsense out with his entourage etc.? There is no Pat Riley or D-Wade on this team. Surprised people aren't bringing this up...

James sense of entitlement and lack of accountability have always been his biggest downfall in my opinion.


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Re: CB Draft 2011 Pacific Division Press Conferences
« Reply #68 on: July 25, 2011, 05:40:22 PM »

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First off I am not being reticent in answering questions
Yes you are, see below.
Second, sorry but the minutes question has always been one I thought  really, really dumb, no disrespect intended. Starters plat starters minutes. Bench players plat bench players minutes. Sixth men play almost starter minutes.

YI have seen for years people putting down specific answers to minutes questions andthen have people pick apart those specitic for a simple minute or three.
Rotations are more complicated that that Nick and you know it. Look at the real life Celtics: they had to juggle KG's starter minutes while trying to maximize his impact because of their lack of quality defensive big men besides him. This lead to a lot of BBD at the PF and other poor defensive C (Krstic/Semih/etc) hurting the C's out of proportion to their minutes played.

LeBron will play superstar minutes.
The starters will play starters minutes.
The bench bench minutes as needed with oess in the playoffs
I have to assume you have no set rotation beyond the starters then and your players don't know what role they'll play from game to game. Plus even your starters might get inconsistent minutes from gaem to game (in how many 34, then 40, etc.)

Beyond this specific team for this year's CB Draft:
Is it a good thing for the game to have GMs dodge questions to avoid criticism? I think it sucks.
Faf...get a life. I am on vacation and the roaming charges on this are gonna cost me a small fortune.

This is for the regular season folks.  People know what I mean.  The starters will be  about 34-38  MPG except Billups who will play less. Diaw and Jennings are the first two off the bench. Miller, Neal and Mohammed are the 8th and 9th and 10th men. When big leads occur,  others will get minutes which will lessen the averages of the starters.

This isnt rocket science. Its basketball. I am sure the people following this will understand what I am getting at and the situation I am in even if someone like you cant.

Re: CB Draft 2011 Pacific Division Press Conferences
« Reply #69 on: July 25, 2011, 05:48:18 PM »

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Rotation:

PG: Ty Lawson and Gilbert Arenas will man the point position, with Shaun Livingston receiving some sporadic playing time when his size may be utilized.  Lawson will be given the green light to push the ball as frequently as possible to look for transition buckets, particularly looking to get Kevin Martin out into space.  Arenas will be used in a microwave role and will be given 20-25 minutes a night.  His role will differ from Lawson’s in that Arenas will be given the opportunity to create more freely for himself.

SG: Kevin Martin will spend most of his time at the 2, but will also see playing time at the 3 when his defensive assignment wouldn’t be particularly exhaustive.  His minutes at the 3 would allow Arenas to play with both Lawson and Martin, albeit a limited scenario.  Ronnie Brewer will see virtually all of his minutes here, though Mike Brown reserves the ability to insert him into the SF slot on rare occasions.  As mentioned, Arenas will see some time here.  Stephen Jackson will also see limited time at the 2 if any injuries occur to the backcourt, and in an effort to get him into a role he’s played much of in his past.

SF: Stephen Jackson will hold down the wing position.  Ryan Gomes and Kawhi Leonard will platoon as the wing reserve until one asserts himself.  It is expected that Leonard will establish himself as the season winds on; giving Gomes the opportunity to play more of the 4.

PF: Serge Ibaka will see the bulk of his hime at the PF position.  Ryan Gomes finds himself in a similar position at the 4 as he will split some time with Bismack Biombo until one individual proves more effective with their minutes.  Jermaine O’Neal will likely see sporadic time at the 4 when the team needs to go big and until Biombo is comfortable within Mike Brown‘s scheme.

C: Jermaine O’Neal will start most nights, but he will be spelled early and often by DeAndre Jordan.  As the season wears on, Jordan will be given a larger ratio of the center minutes and will be given the opportunity to grasp the starting position if his impressive progress continues.  Ibaka and Biombo will see limited minutes at the 5 if and when Mike Brown inserts a smaller lineup.

Team Weakness‘:

Look, I understand that when you look at the Conspiracy, you don’t see a team that’s overloaded with big name talent.  When the lotto spits your team out at #20, there’s only so many ways you can go.  My choice was to trade down, acquire the BPA, and then decide who to build around and who I had to match up with in the Division. 

Another weakness is that we have a very limited post up game in LA.  The points will have to come from the exterior.  However, although Ibaka lacks an imposing post game, his jump shot has improved notably and is now an effective part of his arsenal.  O’Neal and Jordan can contribute offensively, but most of their points will come from under the basket/open jump shots/offensive rebounds.


Why This All Works:

Efficiency in the backcourt, true veteran leadership, team defensive principals, CHEMISTRY!!

The first thing I knew I had to take care of was matchups.  The Conspiracy are in the same Division as arguably the two best players in basketball in Dirk and ‘Bron.  With that in mind, I decided to acquire individuals who could mitigate their damage while taking advantage of lesser players on their wing.




What did we come up with? The acquisition of Stephen Jackson and Ronnie Brewer were designed with LeBron in mind, with guys like Leonard and Biyombo also there to throw at him.   In 23 games against each other, LeBron has certainly “got his” against Jax, as he does against everyone; however, Jackson has made life difficult on many occasions for James.  In the 24 games they’ve matched up, James has shot the ball 47% from the field and 32% from 3.  Though Jackson gets it right back on the other end from James, Jackson has still hit 35% from distance.  The splits of 25/6/6 for James versus 18/5/3 for Jackson shows that Jax holds his own in that battle, despite the historic discrepancy between the surrounding talent for both men.  Add in that Jax now has two elite-level shot blockers/help defenders in Ibaka and Jordan, and another solid helper in O’Neal, and I’m confident that Jax will battle James at an even higher level. 

Brewer has been largely overlooked as one of the best defenders in the game. Period.  According to Defensive EV (incorporating all forced turnovers, defensive errors, field goal percentage against and defensive rebounds), Brewer is far away the best SG defensively, and is ranked 4th in all of the NBA.  Again, add in that Serge Ibaka and DeAndre Jordan finished 1st and 6th in blocks/48, respectively, and it’s clear to see that no drive is safe in LA.

One of the Conspiracy’s greatest assets is in its depth of defenders.  Once Leonard and Biyombo round into form, you have two more freak athletes who can make life nightmarish for opponents.  The following are excerpts from an article penned by HoopsWorld, titled “2011 NBA Draft: Top Defenders:”

“Biyombo plays with great intensity on every possession and is a competitor in the truest sense of the word. His 7-7 wingspan (you read that correctly), non-stop motor, outstanding strength and explosive leaping ability combine to make the Congolese big man a presence as on the ball defender, a weakside shot-blocker and on the glass.”

“Leonard earns his keep on the defensive end of the of the court, where he uses his long (7-3 wing span), sturdy frame, tremendous athleticism and huge, quick hands to pester opposing players at multiple positions.   Leonard is a tireless worker on the defensive end of the floor, fighting through screens while showing the ability to switch and defend any the two, three or four spots. He ranked amongst the best rebounders in the country this year, using his nose for the ball, extremely high energy level and ability to get off the floor, particularly on his second jump, quickly.”


Where the scoring comes from:

Lawson/Martin: THE OVERLOOKED!!!


Lawson cracked the top-40 in net production amongst all qualified players, all while tied for 4th fewest min% of the top 40.  Is this production due to limited usage? Post all-star break Lawson started all 25 games, and in just 7 more min per game starting he improved ppg by 4 and asts by over 3. FT% jumped 10 points, 3pt% jumped to 42%, FG% improved to 51%.

Final two months of season where he started every game he put up 16/8/3 and 14/6/4, while shooting 40% and 55% from 3’s, respectively.  Oh and the Nugs won 18 of 25 games during that period.

His starter/reserve splits are even more dramatic - as a reserve his numbers were impressively efficient but not particularly overwhelming.  However, his starter averages are straight ridiculous.  31 games as a starter he put up a 14/7/4 line while shooting 51% from the field and 44% from 3.  All this after a huge roster shakeup and role change.

For those that would still argue the “limited exposure” theory, his minute splits prove that Lawson was dramatically more efficient when he plays between 30-39 minutes per game. 

Playoff numbers were still foolishly efficient.   16/4/4 per game while shooting 50% from the field and 46% from 3 - all while going up against one of the more feared defensive pgs in the game in Westbrook.  Westbrook’s scoring numbers were higher, but not better.  Lawson held Westbrook to 40% and 30% from the field/3s, respectively, and posting a 4/1 asst/to ratio compared to Westbrook’s 3/2 ratio.

Bottom line - ALL of the hard evidence we have on Lawson indicates that, had he been given the opportunity to run a team for a whole season, his PER and splits would’ve been up there with the top half-dozen pgs in the NBA.  He deserves to be recognized as one of the most efficient point guards in the game today.

The word of the day continues to be “efficient.”  If you thought Lawson was impressive just look at Kevin martin.  Simply put, Martin has been one of the NBA’s most efficient scorers in the last 30 years. He’s the only player who has shot 40 percent from beyond the 3-point line and averaged eight made free-throws a game in the course of an entire season. And he has done it in two of his six NBA seasons.  Though he’s had the injury bug a few times, in 2010/11 he played in 80 games and finished the season with the 15th best net production and 20th best simple rating in the entire nba.  Fact is this kid has been straight overlooked in the basketball world for his entire career due to the teams he’s played on.  Manu Ginobili will certainly go back and forth with Martin, but as for Matthews and Young? Forget about it.

Martin:        29 ppg/4apg/4rpg/44% from 3/ 54%fg
Matthews:   9ppg/2apg/2rpg/23% from 3/ 33%fg

Martin:  31ppg/2ast/4rpg/50fg/57%from3
Young: 7ppg/ .3ast/2rpg/46fg/20%from3

Now I understand that  Martin’s minutes have far exceeded Young's, but there’s no way that Martin doesn’t run WILD in this Division.  Pair him with Lawson and you have the most dangerous backcourt in the Division.  Now take that top backcourt, add in a 20ppg scorer in Jax, and then place behind it one of the best groupings of big men help-defenders and you have a team that will not only survive the Division, but should find itself with a shiny playoff seed.




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Re: CB Draft 2011 Pacific Division Press Conferences
« Reply #70 on: July 25, 2011, 05:50:07 PM »

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Faf...get a life. I am on vacation and the roaming charges on this are gonna cost me a small fortune.
If you can't post more because you're on vacation thats fine, but that's not the reason you gave for refusing to give a minutes breakdown. Don't throw that excuse back out there when you've already said that wasn't why.

This is for the regular season folks.  People know what I mean.  The starters will be  about 34-38  MPG except Billups who will play less. Diaw and Jennings are the first two off the bench. Miller, Neal and Mohammed are the 8th and 9th and 10th men. When big leads occur,  others will get minutes which will lessen the averages of the starters.
I guess this is the best we will get, so be it.

This isnt rocket science. Its basketball. I am sure the people following this will understand what I am getting at and the situation I am in even if someone like you cant.
I get what you mean, and as I outlined above you are specifically being vague to avoid criticism because you view the Kings as the number one team going in. Thus avoiding being torn down (until playoffs) is the strategy.

That sucks, almost as much as you making it personal in the above quotes. Dodging a question and then insulting the questioner, politics indeed.

Re: CB Draft 2011 Pacific Division Press Conferences
« Reply #71 on: July 25, 2011, 05:51:16 PM »

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Is it a good thing for the game to have GMs dodge questions to avoid criticism? I think it sucks.

Without talking about any specific team:  Yes, GMs that speak "politically" will do a disservice to the game, if only because it takes away what the core of this exercise was supposed to be about.

When CFF and I started this thing back in 2007, there was no voting.  The fun was supposed to be the journey of picking teams.  We came up with the "press conference" idea, because GMs had lived and breathed these teams for weeks.  Answering questions and talking about your team was seen as a big part of the fun, as you could talk about your vision.  It was supposed to be fun.

Now, since voting is involved, many GMs refuse to be candid.  The draft has become an exercise in winning, and who can argue the best.  As our politicians have shown us, sometimes when you don't have an answer to a question, the best choice is to refuse to answer it (or to deflect attention away from it).  In the CB Draft, much like in politics, that isn't a good thing.

What do you do about it?  Short of eliminating voting, I'm not sure there's a lot that can be done.  Many people will answer questions in a way that ensures them the best result on the ballot.

And there are those of us who are entirely self-destructive.

Re: CB Draft 2011 Pacific Division Press Conferences
« Reply #72 on: July 25, 2011, 05:52:14 PM »

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Very entertaining press conference, LA, and great use of photoshop skills.

Questions:

1.  How many games do you expect JO to appear in next year, and when he inevitably goes down, do you have enough depth at the position to survive?

2.  Currently, I have you last place in the division, and out of the playoffs.  Why am I wrong on that?


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Re: CB Draft 2011 Pacific Division Press Conferences
« Reply #73 on: July 25, 2011, 05:58:42 PM »

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Questions for LA:

1. Do you worry about lacking a true SF? Jackson has been playing a big SG for a while now, Leonard is a rookie, and Gomes is a tweener 3/4. Is that why you're playing Martin at the 3 sometimes?

2. You outline a lineup of Lawson/Arenas/Martin, do you worry about that lineup defensively? Because that seems to be a scary line up to trot out there against a quality team.

3. What sort of minutes and production do you expect out of Arenas? He was barely rotation worth last year for Orlando.

4. Big man depth (see Roy's above about O'Neal)

Re: CB Draft 2011 Pacific Division Press Conferences
« Reply #74 on: July 25, 2011, 06:07:58 PM »

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Golden State Warriors  GM: Champkind
PG Stephen Curry/ Andre Miller/ Steve Blake
SG Sam Young/ Rodrigue Beaubois/ Corey Brewer
SF Nicolas Batum/ Thaddeus Young
PF Dirk Nowitzki/ Derrick Favors
C Marcus Camby/ David Lee

Like: Riding the Dirk Nowitzki feel-good wave, pairing him with Stephen Curry in the back-court, putting high-energy players around him, and a defensive-minded center up front. Quality depth pretty much everywhere.
Don't Like: The other 28 minutes a game when Camby isn't playing center. Sam Young's lack of a 3pt shot and lack of a rep as a defensive stopper. That's who they needed here. Lack of depth at the 3.


Wing depth is an issue, but Young's college stats (38% and 37% 3pt shooting at Pitt, averaging more than 1 3pt made per game) suggest that he's not a lost cause when it comes to the deep ball. I think you might be selling his defense short as well, as that was a major part in his ascension to starter- his size, strength, and effort make him a solid equalizer on the defensive end. He's big, strong, and pesky at the 2.

We've also got 4 guys who can play SF between Batum, the Young brothers, and Brewer. It's not ideal, but it's a group of players who can make it work, as well as a group of players that are still getting better.
CB Draft Bucks: Chris Paul, Dwight Howard, Tobias Harris, Zach LaVine, Aaron Afflalo, Jeff Green, Donatas Motiejunas, Jarrett Jack, Frank Kaminsky, Lance Stephenson, JaVale McGee, Shane Larkin, Nick Young

DKC Bucks. Also terrible.

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