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Radical idea to solve CBA
« on: June 30, 2011, 08:04:57 AM »

Offline KGs Knee

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I can't say for certain if this would work or not.  I don't even know how all the details would be worked out.  But to me the arguement of a hard cap or not, and how it relates to BRI could very well be solved by changing the way players are paid.

Instead of paying players a set dollar amount, they could be paid a percentage of the BRI, divided amongst all 30 teams evenly.  As an example, a super-star, like Lebron, might get paid something like 25% of his teams BRI share.  Basically as revenue rises, so do individual player salaries.  The reverse would also be true.  This would place the risk/reward on both parties.  The biggest negiotiating point would then be what is a fair split of the BRI.

Any thoughts are welcome, just be civil.  Thanks.
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Re: Radical idea to solve CBA
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2011, 08:45:33 AM »

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The players would never go for this; it's much worse than the current deal for them.  Right now they get a salary and a share of the BRI.  Also their salaries are for now guaranteed and a steady and known source of income; with the BRI they would not know what their making until the figures come in.

Also you are suggesting to give the stars a bigger share but that concept is already in place with salaries.  The stars obviously get a lot more of the cap compared to lesser players.
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Re: Radical idea to solve CBA
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2011, 08:52:02 AM »

Offline KGs Knee

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Quote from: greenpride32 on June 30, 2011, 08:45:33 AM
The players would never go for this; it's much worse than the current deal for them.  Right now they get a salary and a share of the BRI.  Also their salaries are for now guaranteed and a steady and known source of income; with the BRI they would not know what their making until the figures come in.

Also you are suggesting to give the stars a bigger share but that concept is already in place with salaries.  The stars obviously get a lot more of the cap compared to lesser players.

The players do not get a set salary PLUS a share of the BRI.  They get a set salary, with 8% witheld in the event the total of all player salaries across the league exceed the agreed upon BRI share (currently 57%).  If the total slaries do not exceed the 57% threshold they get that 8% back.  Also, there is a minimum threshold that must be met on the owners part.  Its basically the same thing, just more simplified and tied directly to the BRI.  But yes, the uncertainty could very well be a sticking point for the players.
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« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2011, 08:58:08 AM »

Offline Michael Anthony

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In a way, that is allready the case. I do not know the nitty gritty detail, but I do know that player salaries are only estimates.

During the season, a portion of the player salary is held in escro.

At the end of the season, the NBA tallies up the total amount paid to players, and what the total amount should be based on BRI. If the amount paid is lower, the NBA releases the escrow and may add more. If the amount is higher, the NBA retains a portion of the escrow.
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« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2011, 08:59:24 AM »

Offline Michael Anthony

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Quote from: KGs Knee on June 30, 2011, 08:52:02 AM
Quote from: greenpride32 on June 30, 2011, 08:45:33 AM
The players would never go for this; it's much worse than the current deal for them.  Right now they get a salary and a share of the BRI.  Also their salaries are for now guaranteed and a steady and known source of income; with the BRI they would not know what their making until the figures come in.

Also you are suggesting to give the stars a bigger share but that concept is already in place with salaries.  The stars obviously get a lot more of the cap compared to lesser players.

The players do not get a set salary PLUS a share of the BRI.  They get a set salary, with 8% witheld in the event the total of all player salaries across the league exceed the agreed upon BRI share (currently 57%).  If the total slaries do not exceed the 57% threshold they get that 8% back.  Also, there is a minimum threshold that must be met on the owners part.  Its basically the same thing, just more simplified and tied directly to the BRI.  But yes, the uncertainty could very well be a sticking point for the players.

Well done, TP for you!
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Re: Radical idea to solve CBA
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2011, 09:53:47 AM »

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The suggestion made is basically a variable compensation plan....not unlike many commercial retail leases where the lessee pays a base rent with a % of gross receipts factor....in your idea the players are the lessor and get a %

What I never hear from the players' side is risk factor or a fair return on capital
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