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Hypothetical - What could you get for James / Bosh
« on: June 13, 2011, 08:06:14 AM »

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If Miami were open to trade Bosh / James, what do you think they could get for them?

James would get you D.Howard


Would Bosh & Miller get Chris Paul? 

How about Bosh for Steve Nash - Gortat?

I think it would be "Karma" for Rielly to trade LBJ. to a lottery team.

What would you do if you were Rielly?

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« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2011, 08:13:25 AM »

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Quote from: Coach on June 13, 2011, 08:06:14 AM
Would Bosh & Miller get Chris Paul? 

How about Bosh for Steve Nash - Gortat?
I don't think either of those teams would be willing to trade that much for Bosh. I expect that a lot of teams will look at Bosh as a second / third option type player and will be unwilling to gut their teams to acquire without having that top dog post-trade.

So I would look at teams that have that top option + enough quality assets to swing a trade for Bosh.

New Jersey looks a good option for Brook Lopez. Maybe Miami has to eat a pair of role player's contracts too in order to free up enough cap space to add a third star to Deron + Bosh.
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« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2011, 08:22:22 AM »

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maybe LeBron can force the Heat to trade Wade for Dwight and Bosh and picks for Chris Paul
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Re: Hypothetical - What could you get for James / Bosh
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2011, 09:13:00 AM »

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If i was Reilly i would get a real coach for starters.
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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2011, 09:16:26 AM »

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Quote from: Who on June 13, 2011, 08:13:25 AM
Quote from: Coach on June 13, 2011, 08:06:14 AM
Would Bosh & Miller get Chris Paul? 

How about Bosh for Steve Nash - Gortat?
I don't think either of those teams would be willing to trade that much for Bosh. I expect that a lot of teams will look at Bosh as a second / third option type player and will be unwilling to gut their teams to acquire without having that top dog post-trade.

I agree.  If Bosh couldn't win a title as the 3rd banana behind Lebron and Wade, I don't know how a GM can possibly think he'll win a title as a lead or second option, haha.

I think they need to find a team that has 2 players at the same position and need to deal one who will fit in well with Miami.  Something similar to the Curry/Ellis situation in GS or Iguodala/Turner in Philly.  Or the Chris Paul/Darren Collison situation last offseason.

Personally, I think a deal centered around D-Wade for Chris Paul or Deron Williams is something they should look into.
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Re: Hypothetical - What could you get for James / Bosh
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2011, 09:16:52 AM »

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Quote from: Jeff on June 13, 2011, 08:22:22 AM
maybe LeBron can force the Heat to trade Wade for Dwight and Bosh and picks for Chris Paul
If I'm Reilly and thinking of moving either Wade or Bron, after watching this team in the playoffs I keep Wade and move Bron.  Bron may have more overall talent but Wade brought it every game and to be honest, he scares me more as an opposing player than Bron does right now.
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« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2011, 09:25:38 AM »

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Re: Hypothetical - What could you get for James / Bosh
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2011, 09:28:02 AM »

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Quote from: action781 on June 13, 2011, 09:16:26 AM
Quote from: Who on June 13, 2011, 08:13:25 AM
Quote from: Coach on June 13, 2011, 08:06:14 AM
Would Bosh & Miller get Chris Paul? 

How about Bosh for Steve Nash - Gortat?
I don't think either of those teams would be willing to trade that much for Bosh. I expect that a lot of teams will look at Bosh as a second / third option type player and will be unwilling to gut their teams to acquire without having that top dog post-trade.

I agree.  If Bosh couldn't win a title as the 3rd banana behind Lebron and Wade, I don't know how a GM can possibly think he'll win a title as a lead or second option, haha.

I think they need to find a team that has 2 players at the same position and need to deal one who will fit in well with Miami.  Something similar to the Curry/Ellis situation in GS or Iguodala/Turner in Philly.  Or the Chris Paul/Darren Collison situation last offseason.

Personally, I think a deal centered around D-Wade for Chris Paul or Deron Williams is something they should look into.
The Heat need balance.  Reilly will be crucified and mocked for trading any of their 'underachieving 3' but to build a winner, these deals would help balance that team.
(I'm not checking the trade checker, just throwing out ideas based on talent exchange)

Bron/Haslem for Deron/Lopez
or
Wade/Chalmers for Rondo/Ray
or
Bron/Bosh for Paul, West, Okafur, Ariza
or
Wade/Haslem for Rose/Noah

I'm not saying the trading partner would do the deal since they may be getting the best player but to do so would remove most if not all of their existing assets.
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« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2011, 09:29:41 AM »

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well to be fair, If rielly trades LeBron to a lottery team, theyll be a front running regular season team who loses in the playoffs.....cleveland ring any bells?
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« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2011, 09:36:50 AM »

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If Riley wanted to trade LeBron for Howard the Magic would be foolish not to accept if Howard won't extend. Balance wise it makes more sense for Miami to do this unless Wade all of sudden became a good shooter.

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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2011, 09:40:14 AM »

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Maybe expired Milk? but even that is questionable.
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« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2011, 09:41:55 AM »

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I think people are over reacting to a loss. The Heat this year are one game worse than the C's last year in the finals.

The big 3 are still gelling. Their best two role players Miller and Haslem were out all year. They had Mike Bibby's corpse starting for most of the series.

But if I were trading someone - I'd trade Wade. He's more likely to decline, less likely to improve, and easier to replace. My main concern about LBJ and Wade is their games don't mesh, not like Pierce and Ray do.
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« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2011, 09:42:46 AM »

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Quote from: CelticSooner on June 13, 2011, 09:36:50 AM
If Riley wanted to trade LeBron for Howard the Magic would be foolish not to accept if Howard won't extend. Balance wise it makes more sense for Miami to do this unless Wade all of sudden became a good shooter.


Would Bosh and Dwight on the same team work?
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« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2011, 09:49:55 AM »

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Quote from: Brendan on June 13, 2011, 09:42:46 AM
Quote from: CelticSooner on June 13, 2011, 09:36:50 AM
If Riley wanted to trade LeBron for Howard the Magic would be foolish not to accept if Howard won't extend. Balance wise it makes more sense for Miami to do this unless Wade all of sudden became a good shooter.


Would Bosh and Dwight on the same team work?

I think a Bosh/Howard frontcourt would be pretty formidable. Howard would relive of some the softness that is Bosh and would space the floor much better. Teams would be more cautious to double Dwight.

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« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2011, 10:06:55 AM »

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Quote from: Brendan on June 13, 2011, 09:42:46 AM
Quote from: CelticSooner on June 13, 2011, 09:36:50 AM
If Riley wanted to trade LeBron for Howard the Magic would be foolish not to accept if Howard won't extend. Balance wise it makes more sense for Miami to do this unless Wade all of sudden became a good shooter.


Would Bosh and Dwight on the same team work?
Nope -- gotta get rid of Bosh if you bring in Dwight Howard
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