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GSW-BOS idea
« on: May 25, 2011, 12:46:36 PM »

Offline Lucky17

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Who says no?

Boston trades Jermaine O'Neal, Avery Bradley, 2011 first rounder (#25), 2012 2nd rounder (from Minnesota via Cleveland)

Golden State trades Andres Biedrins and 2011 first rounder (#11)
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Re: GSW-BOS idea
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2011, 12:53:04 PM »

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Quote from: Lucky17 on May 25, 2011, 12:46:36 PM
Who says no?

Boston trades Jermaine O'Neal, Avery Bradley, 2011 first rounder (#25), 2012 2nd rounder (from Minnesota via Cleveland)

Golden State trades Andres Biedrins and 2011 first rounder (#11)
So you want GSW to give up the best player in the deal as well as the highest draft pick in the deal for...a washed up injured center, a very young unproven 2nd year player, a 1st round pick at the bottom of the draft and a 2nd rounder?  Not sure why they would do that.
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Re: GSW-BOS idea
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2011, 12:56:35 PM »

Offline Lucky17

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Quote from: Surferdad on May 25, 2011, 12:53:04 PM
Quote from: Lucky17 on May 25, 2011, 12:46:36 PM
Who says no?

Boston trades Jermaine O'Neal, Avery Bradley, 2011 first rounder (#25), 2012 2nd rounder (from Minnesota via Cleveland)

Golden State trades Andres Biedrins and 2011 first rounder (#11)
So you want GSW to give up the best player in the deal as well as the highest draft pick in the deal for...a washed up injured center, a very young unproven 2nd year player, a 1st round pick at the bottom of the draft and a 2nd rounder?  Not sure why they would do that.

It's dependent on the new ownership/management in Golden State. Biedrins is the best player in the deal, but is signed to a long term contract that is a little overpriced for the next several years.

Warriors get to undo that signing, open up minutes for Udoh, and trim some additional payroll for more cap space for a FA signing this offseason.

I take your point, though. Perhaps they should keep the draft pick.
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Re: GSW-BOS idea
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2011, 12:57:35 PM »

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Quote from: Surferdad on May 25, 2011, 12:53:04 PM
Quote from: Lucky17 on May 25, 2011, 12:46:36 PM
Who says no?

Boston trades Jermaine O'Neal, Avery Bradley, 2011 first rounder (#25), 2012 2nd rounder (from Minnesota via Cleveland)

Golden State trades Andres Biedrins and 2011 first rounder (#11)
So you want GSW to give up the best player in the deal as well as the highest draft pick in the deal for...a washed up injured center, a very young unproven 2nd year player, a 1st round pick at the bottom of the draft and a 2nd rounder?  Not sure why they would do that.
agreed -- not sure why GSW does this unless Biedrins has a horrible contract (which I'm not sure of).
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Re: GSW-BOS idea
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2011, 12:59:05 PM »

Offline Lucky17

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Quote from: slamtheking on May 25, 2011, 12:57:35 PM
Quote from: Surferdad on May 25, 2011, 12:53:04 PM
Quote from: Lucky17 on May 25, 2011, 12:46:36 PM
Who says no?

Boston trades Jermaine O'Neal, Avery Bradley, 2011 first rounder (#25), 2012 2nd rounder (from Minnesota via Cleveland)

Golden State trades Andres Biedrins and 2011 first rounder (#11)
So you want GSW to give up the best player in the deal as well as the highest draft pick in the deal for...a washed up injured center, a very young unproven 2nd year player, a 1st round pick at the bottom of the draft and a 2nd rounder?  Not sure why they would do that.
agreed -- not sure why GSW does this unless Biedrins has a horrible contract (which I'm not sure of).

$9 mil a year through 2013-14.
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Re: GSW-BOS idea
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2011, 01:12:03 PM »

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Quote from: Surferdad on May 25, 2011, 12:53:04 PM
Quote from: Lucky17 on May 25, 2011, 12:46:36 PM
Who says no?

Boston trades Jermaine O'Neal, Avery Bradley, 2011 first rounder (#25), 2012 2nd rounder (from Minnesota via Cleveland)

Golden State trades Andres Biedrins and 2011 first rounder (#11)
So you want GSW to give up the best player in the deal as well as the highest draft pick in the deal for...a washed up injured center, a very young unproven 2nd year player, a 1st round pick at the bottom of the draft and a 2nd rounder?  Not sure why they would do that.

They might because Biedrens is damaged goods, especially psychologically. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/04/29/SPUQ1J9Q4A.DTL

He has 4 years at $9 million per left on his contract.

This is lot of $$$ for someone who's game has gone south the past two years. He shot 16% from the FT line 2 years ago and 53% last year.

He has two things going for him: his youth (25) and athleticism.

GSW may do it to get from under his contract. We might not do it because of his contract.

Personally, I'd take the gamble on him if I were the Cs.

 Giving up a JO (whom I have been a fan of)who may or may not play next year and if so (will he be healthy?), AB and two lesser picks for the potentiallybetter player in the trade and a higher pick to give us more flexibility to maneuver is a gamble I would take.

If Biedrens gets his head back together, we do well. If not, his big contract doesn't take us completely out of the Dwight Howard sweepstakes in 2012. And if he turns it around, he could be a piece we move for Howard in a trade.

Risky for us more than for GSW. Upside more for us than for GSW.
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« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2011, 01:25:22 PM »

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sounds great if the celts can pull it off...i would think that gsw would want more than our refuse though for him....
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« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2011, 01:35:12 PM »

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Quote from: Surferdad on May 25, 2011, 12:53:04 PM
Quote from: Lucky17 on May 25, 2011, 12:46:36 PM
Who says no?

Boston trades Jermaine O'Neal, Avery Bradley, 2011 first rounder (#25), 2012 2nd rounder (from Minnesota via Cleveland)

Golden State trades Andres Biedrins and 2011 first rounder (#11)
So you want GSW to give up the best player in the deal as well as the highest draft pick in the deal for...a washed up injured center, a very young unproven 2nd year player, a 1st round pick at the bottom of the draft and a 2nd rounder?  Not sure why they would do that.

  I'd start with Beidrins contract, production and number of games played the last 3 years.
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Re: GSW-BOS idea
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2011, 05:00:05 PM »

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I'm not sure why the C's say yes. We get the 11th pick in a horrendous draft. Outside the top 4, I'm not even intrested. Bradley has more potential than them by far. Next years pick, maybe. Also, I'm not intrested in Biedrins awful deal either.
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« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2011, 05:08:21 PM »

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ugh..Wasting cap space on Andres Biedrins. This draft class is weak anyways.

keep Avery Bradley, keep 2011 1st round pick, Keep 2012 2nd round pick, and sign Dwight Howard next year.
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Re: GSW-BOS idea
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2011, 05:27:30 PM »

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Quote from: Lucky17 on May 25, 2011, 12:46:36 PM
Who says no?

Boston trades Jermaine O'Neal, Avery Bradley, 2011 first rounder (#25), 2012 2nd rounder (from Minnesota via Cleveland)

Golden State trades Andres Biedrins and 2011 first rounder (#11)
Hopefully the Celtics, I don't think Biedrins is ever going to capitalize on his early potential.
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Re: GSW-BOS idea
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2011, 05:39:23 PM »

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Quote from: Fafnir on May 25, 2011, 05:27:30 PM
Quote from: Lucky17 on May 25, 2011, 12:46:36 PM
Who says no?

Boston trades Jermaine O'Neal, Avery Bradley, 2011 first rounder (#25), 2012 2nd rounder (from Minnesota via Cleveland)

Golden State trades Andres Biedrins and 2011 first rounder (#11)
Hopefully the Celtics, I don't think Biedrins is ever going to capitalize on his early potential.

That's because he's too busy working on his sun tan.
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Re: GSW-BOS idea
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2011, 12:43:49 AM »

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Quote from: Lucky17 on May 25, 2011, 12:46:36 PM
Who says no?

Boston trades Jermaine O'Neal, Avery Bradley, 2011 first rounder (#25), 2012 2nd rounder (from Minnesota via Cleveland)

Golden State trades Andres Biedrins and 2011 first rounder (#11)

If Golden State says yes, I don't say no to that deal.

I've always liked Andris Biedrins.  Yeah, he hasn't been what he should have been in this league, but I think that's a gamble worth taking.  Kid's got a boat load of talent and these are the kind of risks Danny has to consider taking looking forward.

Also, I know it's a weak draft, but he should be able to find a gem at number 11.

He can't just sit around waiting for Dwight Howard and/or Chris Paul to fall out of the sky as the only possible options. 

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Re: GSW-BOS idea
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2011, 04:19:43 AM »

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There is no way Id say yes to this is I was Danny...GSW is the team I watch more than any other besides Boston & Biedrins has played even worse than his numbers show if thats possible. He is not even the best player in the trade & has had a permanent mental issue with playing well/consistently for the past 3 years. Jermaine off surgery > Biedrins.
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« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2011, 05:08:48 AM »

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I'd rather do something like Rondo, O'Neal, 2012 draft pick, for Curry, Biedrins, and 2011 draft pick. I don't think it could work salary wise though.
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