2011 CB Historical Draft - Draft Thread

[StartOrien]

Alonzo, huh?  For whatever reason he was off my radar, but he was an extremely solid two-way player.  Nice.

I used - at least for me - a frightening amount of logic here.

1. I think there's a huge drop off in talent at the center slot after him, and I think he compliments both Russell and Barkley pretty well.

2. I've got 3 elite PG's left, none of which I think would be effective at the 2 slot. So I'm pretty sure I'll see one of them next round.

3. Based on my team, I'll need a low usage player at my 3. I think I can address that later on.

[GreenFaith1819]

See start that wasn't so hard.

Edgar isn't going to be happy as my string of MVP's will end with this pick.

SG - Paul Pierce (01/02 season)

Clear no-brainer for me at this point.  Getting huge size at SG in a year when Pierce shot over 6 three's a game and hit over 40% of them, scored over 26 a game, and still had solid rebounding and passing numbers all as a SG (also played some time at SF giving my team a lot of roster flexibility).  He was also an excellent defender that season with a DRTG below 100 and was actually 4th in the league in defensive win shares at 5.6 (along with 7.3 OWS for a total of 12.9 good for 5th in the league).

Sweet! He was on my radar for a bit.

[Roy H.]

Wow, I definitely wasn't expecting The Captain this early.  I do like the argument.

[RebusRankin]

Petitt and Ewing were both guys I wanted, Petitt really.

No problem with Hayes though.  Roy, since you brought up which year, here's a question to the panelists:  the fact that a player won the title in a certain year technically doesn't matter right?  I mean it's not like we're putting them with the same team they had that year.  I guess my real question is what matters more numbers (how they actually played) or awards?

I'll probably look at playoff performances a bit, but winning a title isn't an automatic amplifier.

That's fair.

For the record who else has all champions on their team thus far?

Not only do we have players who all have rings, we have 4 of the 50 greatest players of all time.

[indeedproceed]

See start that wasn't so hard.

Edgar isn't going to be happy as my string of MVP's will end with this pick.

SG - Paul Pierce (01/02 season)

Clear no-brainer for me at this point.  Getting huge size at SG in a year when Pierce shot over 6 three's a game and hit over 40% of them, scored over 26 a game, and still had solid rebounding and passing numbers all as a SG (also played some time at SF giving my team a lot of roster flexibility).  He was also an excellent defender that season with a DRTG below 100 and was actually 4th in the league in defensive win shares at 5.6 (along with 7.3 OWS for a total of 12.9 good for 5th in the league).

That is a pretty interesting pick.

Of the SG's left out there, we got multiple HOF'ers and even some Top 50 All-Time guys. This pick is pretty interesting though, because we now know that Pierce CAN be the kind of player you want on a title-team, so any immaturity questions are out the window.

Really interesting pick.

[Edgar]

See start that wasn't so hard.

Edgar isn't going to be happy as my string of MVP's will end with this pick.

SG - Paul Pierce (01/02 season)

Clear no-brainer for me at this point.  Getting huge size at SG in a year when Pierce shot over 6 three's a game and hit over 40% of them, scored over 26 a game, and still had solid rebounding and passing numbers all as a SG (also played some time at SF giving my team a lot of roster flexibility).  He was also an excellent defender that season with a DRTG below 100 and was actually 4th in the league in defensive win shares at 5.6 (along with 7.3 OWS for a total of 12.9 good for 5th in the league).

Sweet! He was on my radar for a bit.

MORANIS


He was theeason why I dont like KGs and Ray Allens Pick

The reason the Cs became champions was the Capitan and the Capitan only, our MVP


GRRRRRRRRRRRREAT PICK!!!
Youre on fire




PLUS

Pierce pick was better next to Kobe than Ray
and that was my ONE proble with Rays pick

PS This is a Naruto Spoiler so if you watch the series please dont watch the image

[Roy H.]

With pick 4.11, Redz selects one of the most underrated players of all-time, PF/C Nate Thurmond. 

He's one of the best defensive and rebounding big men of all-time, and he could score, too.

[Roy H.]

He was theeason why I dont like KGs and Ray Allens Pick

The reason the Cs became champions was the Capitan and the Capitan only, our MVP

So much for ubuntu.

[Moranis]

See start that wasn't so hard.

Edgar isn't going to be happy as my string of MVP's will end with this pick.

SG - Paul Pierce (01/02 season)

Clear no-brainer for me at this point.  Getting huge size at SG in a year when Pierce shot over 6 three's a game and hit over 40% of them, scored over 26 a game, and still had solid rebounding and passing numbers all as a SG (also played some time at SF giving my team a lot of roster flexibility).  He was also an excellent defender that season with a DRTG below 100 and was actually 4th in the league in defensive win shares at 5.6 (along with 7.3 OWS for a total of 12.9 good for 5th in the league).

That is a pretty interesting pick.

Of the SG's left out there, we got multiple HOF'ers and even some Top 50 All-Time guys. This pick is pretty interesting though, because we now know that Pierce CAN be the kind of player you want on a title-team, so any immaturity questions are out the window.

Really interesting pick.

Pierce is a HOFer when he retires and is better then some of those top 50 players.  

It really was an easy pick for me there.  Given his superb shooting and excellent defense all from the SG position the season I picked.  No hesitation at all.  I probably would have taken him at the start of the round, but thought he might fall with the big men left on the board so I traded back hoping he or Kidd would fall to me.

[nickagneta]

Chicago Bulls:

All 4 players are NBA Champions
All 4 players are NBA Finals MVPs
All 4 players are 1st team All NBA players
All 4 players are on the NBA Top 50 list of players
3 players are NBA MVPs
3 players are 1st team All Defense

just saying

[Edgar]

He was theeason why I dont like KGs and Ray Allens Pick

The reason the Cs became champions was the Capitan and the Capitan only, our MVP

So much for ubuntu.

Ubuntu works better when you have the best player each series.
Ask the 3 queens

[nickagneta]

I like the Pierce pick just not the year. Here is where I don't like Roy's thoughts on evaluating a player outside of that year. The year in question Pierce was an immature party person and was not the consummate team player or defender he would become. His Indiana playoff fiasco years later shows what I mean. 2007-08 Pierce, though he had worse stats, is a more mature and better all around player.

[Fafnir]

I like the Pierce pick just not the year. Here is where I don't like Roy's thoughts on evaluating a player outside of that year. The year in question Pierce was an immature party person and was not the consummate team player or defender he would become. His Indiana playoff fiasco years later shows what I mean. 2007-08 Pierce, though he had worse stats, is a more mature and better all around player.

But then again your main evidence of how immature he was came years later.

[RebusRankin]

Was hoping Thurmond would slip.

[mgent]

Chicago Bulls:

All 4 players are NBA Champions
All 4 players are NBA Finals MVPs
All 4 players are 1st team All NBA players
All 4 players are on the NBA Top 50 list of players
3 players are NBA MVPs
3 players are 1st team All Defense

just saying

+ 2 lifetime Lakers
and the father of a lifetime Laker

Congrats.