Refs are in the tank bigtime!

[MBunge]

I keep missing it.  I see calls that I don't agree with, but I rarely see anything that reaches the level of concerted conspiracy in my eyes.  

It's not a conspiracy.  That would require too much intelligence.  It's that NBA refs are so freakin' arbitrary with their foul calls that when you see phantom fouls or blatant no-calls, it's almost impossible not to suspect some sort of motivation behind it.

Mike

[Celtics18]

I keep missing it.  I see calls that I don't agree with, but I rarely see anything that reaches the level of concerted conspiracy in my eyes.  

It's not a conspiracy.  That would require too much intelligence.  It's that NBA refs are so freakin' arbitrary with their foul calls that when you see phantom fouls or blatant no-calls, it's almost impossible not to suspect some sort of motivation behind it.

Mike

This is going to sound ridiculous, but I think they get a bad rap.  The difference between a block and a charge, and the difference between how much contact constitutes a foul in the paint is so small, and everything happens so quickly and with so much force that those calls are really tough to make. 

NBA refs do a great job. Sometimes they make questionable calls that influence the outcome.  That's the nature of the game.  However, teams get plenty of chances to win the game without it having to come down to whistles.

[MBunge]

I keep missing it.  I see calls that I don't agree with, but I rarely see anything that reaches the level of concerted conspiracy in my eyes.  

It's not a conspiracy.  That would require too much intelligence.  It's that NBA refs are so freakin' arbitrary with their foul calls that when you see phantom fouls or blatant no-calls, it's almost impossible not to suspect some sort of motivation behind it.

Mike

This is going to sound ridiculous, but I think they get a bad rap.  The difference between a block and a charge, and the difference between how much contact constitutes a foul in the paint is so small, and everything happens so quickly and with so much force that those calls are really tough to make. 

NBA refs do a great job. Sometimes they make questionable calls that influence the outcome.  That's the nature of the game.  However, teams get plenty of chances to win the game without it having to come down to whistles.

NBA refs probably have the toughest job in sports officiating and, relatively speaking, they probably do a better job than any other officials.

HOWEVER, there is an arbitrary element to NBA officiating that is worse than any other sport, except maybe judges in boxing.  The analogy I use is that if a home plate umpire did his job the way an NBA ref does his, the umpire would not only have a different strike zone for each player, he's have a different strike zone for each player for every inning and then would occasionally change strike zones in the middle of an at bat.

This is why flopping has become so effective in the NBA.  Refs are simply looking to call a foul sometimes and when a player makes an awkward jerk, the ref blows the whistle on automatic.

Mike

[MBz]

I don't think there's any kind of conspiracy by the refs, and I think every fan base always thinks the refs are against them.

HOWEVER - I do think that the Broadcasts have made a conscious effort to stop showing replays of questionable calls. There's been a countless amount of times this series that I was interested in seeing the replay for a foul and haven't seen it. I don't know if that would be a request from the NBA or just a broadcast decision, but ESPN & TNT have been equally guilty of it.

Yes.  I 100% agree.  Me and my father talked about the same thing last night.  Anything that looks fishy they don't show.

[j804]

I have not read the entire thread but are we calling out officials from yesterday?

Hope not because we were getting calls

[Celtics18]

I don't think there's any kind of conspiracy by the refs, and I think every fan base always thinks the refs are against them.

HOWEVER - I do think that the Broadcasts have made a conscious effort to stop showing replays of questionable calls. There's been a countless amount of times this series that I was interested in seeing the replay for a foul and haven't seen it. I don't know if that would be a request from the NBA or just a broadcast decision, but ESPN & TNT have been equally guilty of it.

Yes.  I 100% agree.  Me and my father talked about the same thing last night.  Anything that looks fishy they don't show.

  I've noticed that as well.  It's funny when you compare this to the NESN broadcasts where Tommy wants to see everything again, often times being proved wrong by the replay.

But, yeah, show the close calls again so I can make up my own mind.  That annoys me too.

[Senninsage]

I have not read the entire thread but are we calling out officials from yesterday?

Hope not because we were getting calls

The Celts were fortunate to get out to the lead that they did. Early on, there were a number of very crucial calls that were simply not made.

We started getting calls, but that was after we had already taken control of the game. If the game had been closer, the crucial missed calls would have been significant.