Bill's Propaganda got us Mallett.

[Eja117]

Sorry but I really like what Belichick has done over the last couple of years in the draft. Let's not forget he did draft Cunningham and Spikes as speed LBs that could get after a QB. He's still developing them and so far they look real good. Ty Warren will also be returning this year as will Leigh Bodden. Belichick has every reason to believe that his youngest defense in the league that had 4 Pro Bowlers will develop further and get better.

Last year Belichick drafted two TEs that have Pro Bowl talent and futures(Hernandez and Gronkowski), a Pro Bowl CB(McCourty), a heck of a young punt(Mesko), the two aforementioned talented LBs(Spikes and Cunningham) and a project with athleticism and skills at WR(Price).

This year, Solder is a giant of a man with off the charts athleticism for a man his size, Dowling is a big tough DB that has first round skills but slid because he missed half the year, the RBs(Vereen and Ridley) will be great young replacements for the third down specialists and special teams that are getting old and Mallet, though a supposed drug using punk that thinks he's Eminem, is easily the 2nd or 3rd most talented QB in this draft class and not one single scout had a bad thing to say about his skills(except his speed) or his ability and desire to bring it on game day. On the field the kid is a warrior.

I don't get the pessimism. I fully expect Belichick to pick up a 3-4 DE in the coming rounds and an OLB. I also expect him to sign free agents in these areas that might understand his schemes and assignments better than the rookies that would give the Pats a bit more push up front.

It's Boston.  For years he focused on unglamorous defensive players and everyone was clamoring for him to take offensive skill players higher up.  Part of the problem is that all the Boston teams are competitive now, so people get stuck whining that Rondo's not a good enough PG, Doc's not a good enough coach, and Belichick's not a good enough drafter.

I know. Seriously. Stop making stupid moves and saying things like "Well I trust BB." or "I trust Danny" and win a ring already. How long do I have to wait? Either you win a ring or as a Boston fan I will let you know you didn't and why.

Danny Ainge and Bill Belichek walk into a bar. One says to the other "I like to ruin championship teams with awful trades." The other says "Really? Me too!"

I'm wrong? Then go win a ring and stop telling me these guys are geniuses. It's 2011, not 2004.

I really can't tell if you're being serious right now. 

What pass rusher should we have taken over Mallet or one of the RBs?

Also, what don't you like about Ras-I Dowling?

The only thing I don't like about Dowling is that unless our eyes are lying he comes at a position of extreme unneed

I guess what would have made me happy was more like Brooks Reed, then Jonas Mouton, then maybe Leonard Hankerson

[crownsy]

Sorry but I really like what Belichick has done over the last couple of years in the draft. Let's not forget he did draft Cunningham and Spikes as speed LBs that could get after a QB. He's still developing them and so far they look real good. Ty Warren will also be returning this year as will Leigh Bodden. Belichick has every reason to believe that his youngest defense in the league that had 4 Pro Bowlers will develop further and get better.

Last year Belichick drafted two TEs that have Pro Bowl talent and futures(Hernandez and Gronkowski), a Pro Bowl CB(McCourty), a heck of a young punt(Mesko), the two aforementioned talented LBs(Spikes and Cunningham) and a project with athleticism and skills at WR(Price).

This year, Solder is a giant of a man with off the charts athleticism for a man his size, Dowling is a big tough DB that has first round skills but slid because he missed half the year, the RBs(Vereen and Ridley) will be great young replacements for the third down specialists and special teams that are getting old and Mallet, though a supposed drug using punk that thinks he's Eminem, is easily the 2nd or 3rd most talented QB in this draft class and not one single scout had a bad thing to say about his skills(except his speed) or his ability and desire to bring it on game day. On the field the kid is a warrior.

I don't get the pessimism. I fully expect Belichick to pick up a 3-4 DE in the coming rounds and an OLB. I also expect him to sign free agents in these areas that might understand his schemes and assignments better than the rookies that would give the Pats a bit more push up front.

It's Boston.  For years he focused on unglamorous defensive players and everyone was clamoring for him to take offensive skill players higher up.  Part of the problem is that all the Boston teams are competitive now, so people get stuck whining that Rondo's not a good enough PG, Doc's not a good enough coach, and Belichick's not a good enough drafter.

I know. Seriously. Stop making stupid moves and saying things like "Well I trust BB." or "I trust Danny" and win a ring already. How long do I have to wait? Either you win a ring or as a Boston fan I will let you know you didn't and why.

Danny Ainge and Bill Belichek walk into a bar. One says to the other "I like to ruin championship teams with awful trades." The other says "Really? Me too!"

I'm wrong? Then go win a ring and stop telling me these guys are geniuses. It's 2011, not 2004.

I really can't tell if you're being serious right now. 

What pass rusher should we have taken over Mallet or one of the RBs?

Also, what don't you like about Ras-I Dowling?

The only thing I don't like about Dowling is that unless our eyes are lying he comes at a position of extreme unneed

I guess what would have made me happy was more like Brooks Reed, then Jonas Mouton, then maybe Leonard Hankerson

i dunno, outside of mccourty, what CB that we currently have on the roster do you trust?

I guess i like bodin, if he comes back strong, but butler, wilhte and weathley don't really impress me at all, and i consider all of them nickle backs at best, and not good ones at that.

If dowling can become a second ++ starter, i'm a fan of that pick.

Depth doesn't always mean you don't have a need

[Eja117]

Sorry but I really like what Belichick has done over the last couple of years in the draft. Let's not forget he did draft Cunningham and Spikes as speed LBs that could get after a QB. He's still developing them and so far they look real good. Ty Warren will also be returning this year as will Leigh Bodden. Belichick has every reason to believe that his youngest defense in the league that had 4 Pro Bowlers will develop further and get better.

Last year Belichick drafted two TEs that have Pro Bowl talent and futures(Hernandez and Gronkowski), a Pro Bowl CB(McCourty), a heck of a young punt(Mesko), the two aforementioned talented LBs(Spikes and Cunningham) and a project with athleticism and skills at WR(Price).

This year, Solder is a giant of a man with off the charts athleticism for a man his size, Dowling is a big tough DB that has first round skills but slid because he missed half the year, the RBs(Vereen and Ridley) will be great young replacements for the third down specialists and special teams that are getting old and Mallet, though a supposed drug using punk that thinks he's Eminem, is easily the 2nd or 3rd most talented QB in this draft class and not one single scout had a bad thing to say about his skills(except his speed) or his ability and desire to bring it on game day. On the field the kid is a warrior.

I don't get the pessimism. I fully expect Belichick to pick up a 3-4 DE in the coming rounds and an OLB. I also expect him to sign free agents in these areas that might understand his schemes and assignments better than the rookies that would give the Pats a bit more push up front.

It's Boston.  For years he focused on unglamorous defensive players and everyone was clamoring for him to take offensive skill players higher up.  Part of the problem is that all the Boston teams are competitive now, so people get stuck whining that Rondo's not a good enough PG, Doc's not a good enough coach, and Belichick's not a good enough drafter.

I know. Seriously. Stop making stupid moves and saying things like "Well I trust BB." or "I trust Danny" and win a ring already. How long do I have to wait? Either you win a ring or as a Boston fan I will let you know you didn't and why.

Danny Ainge and Bill Belichek walk into a bar. One says to the other "I like to ruin championship teams with awful trades." The other says "Really? Me too!"

I'm wrong? Then go win a ring and stop telling me these guys are geniuses. It's 2011, not 2004.

I really can't tell if you're being serious right now. 

What pass rusher should we have taken over Mallet or one of the RBs?

Also, what don't you like about Ras-I Dowling?

The only thing I don't like about Dowling is that unless our eyes are lying he comes at a position of extreme unneed

I guess what would have made me happy was more like Brooks Reed, then Jonas Mouton, then maybe Leonard Hankerson

i dunno, outside of mccourty, what CB that we currently have on the roster do you trust?

I guess i like bodin, if he comes back strong, but butler, wilhte and weathley don't really impress me at all, and i consider all of them nickle backs at best, and not good ones at that.

If dowling can become a second ++ starter, i'm a fan of that pick.

Depth doesn't always mean you don't have a need

I trust both Arrington and Bodden if given a pass rush and at least Butler is still in the improvement phase of his career

[crownsy]

Sorry but I really like what Belichick has done over the last couple of years in the draft. Let's not forget he did draft Cunningham and Spikes as speed LBs that could get after a QB. He's still developing them and so far they look real good. Ty Warren will also be returning this year as will Leigh Bodden. Belichick has every reason to believe that his youngest defense in the league that had 4 Pro Bowlers will develop further and get better.

Last year Belichick drafted two TEs that have Pro Bowl talent and futures(Hernandez and Gronkowski), a Pro Bowl CB(McCourty), a heck of a young punt(Mesko), the two aforementioned talented LBs(Spikes and Cunningham) and a project with athleticism and skills at WR(Price).

This year, Solder is a giant of a man with off the charts athleticism for a man his size, Dowling is a big tough DB that has first round skills but slid because he missed half the year, the RBs(Vereen and Ridley) will be great young replacements for the third down specialists and special teams that are getting old and Mallet, though a supposed drug using punk that thinks he's Eminem, is easily the 2nd or 3rd most talented QB in this draft class and not one single scout had a bad thing to say about his skills(except his speed) or his ability and desire to bring it on game day. On the field the kid is a warrior.

I don't get the pessimism. I fully expect Belichick to pick up a 3-4 DE in the coming rounds and an OLB. I also expect him to sign free agents in these areas that might understand his schemes and assignments better than the rookies that would give the Pats a bit more push up front.

It's Boston.  For years he focused on unglamorous defensive players and everyone was clamoring for him to take offensive skill players higher up.  Part of the problem is that all the Boston teams are competitive now, so people get stuck whining that Rondo's not a good enough PG, Doc's not a good enough coach, and Belichick's not a good enough drafter.

I know. Seriously. Stop making stupid moves and saying things like "Well I trust BB." or "I trust Danny" and win a ring already. How long do I have to wait? Either you win a ring or as a Boston fan I will let you know you didn't and why.

Danny Ainge and Bill Belichek walk into a bar. One says to the other "I like to ruin championship teams with awful trades." The other says "Really? Me too!"

I'm wrong? Then go win a ring and stop telling me these guys are geniuses. It's 2011, not 2004.

I really can't tell if you're being serious right now. 

What pass rusher should we have taken over Mallet or one of the RBs?

Also, what don't you like about Ras-I Dowling?

The only thing I don't like about Dowling is that unless our eyes are lying he comes at a position of extreme unneed

I guess what would have made me happy was more like Brooks Reed, then Jonas Mouton, then maybe Leonard Hankerson

i dunno, outside of mccourty, what CB that we currently have on the roster do you trust?

I guess i like bodin, if he comes back strong, but butler, wilhte and weathley don't really impress me at all, and i consider all of them nickle backs at best, and not good ones at that.

If dowling can become a second ++ starter, i'm a fan of that pick.

Depth doesn't always mean you don't have a need

I trust both Arrington and Bodden if given a pass rush and at least Butler is still in the improvement phase of his career

fair enough, i thought arrington was to easily beaten by solid route runners and bodden has injury concerns.

i don't think butler is good, at all. he has no cover skills, though he has nice speed

[Eja117]

Sorry but I really like what Belichick has done over the last couple of years in the draft. Let's not forget he did draft Cunningham and Spikes as speed LBs that could get after a QB. He's still developing them and so far they look real good. Ty Warren will also be returning this year as will Leigh Bodden. Belichick has every reason to believe that his youngest defense in the league that had 4 Pro Bowlers will develop further and get better.

Last year Belichick drafted two TEs that have Pro Bowl talent and futures(Hernandez and Gronkowski), a Pro Bowl CB(McCourty), a heck of a young punt(Mesko), the two aforementioned talented LBs(Spikes and Cunningham) and a project with athleticism and skills at WR(Price).

This year, Solder is a giant of a man with off the charts athleticism for a man his size, Dowling is a big tough DB that has first round skills but slid because he missed half the year, the RBs(Vereen and Ridley) will be great young replacements for the third down specialists and special teams that are getting old and Mallet, though a supposed drug using punk that thinks he's Eminem, is easily the 2nd or 3rd most talented QB in this draft class and not one single scout had a bad thing to say about his skills(except his speed) or his ability and desire to bring it on game day. On the field the kid is a warrior.

I don't get the pessimism. I fully expect Belichick to pick up a 3-4 DE in the coming rounds and an OLB. I also expect him to sign free agents in these areas that might understand his schemes and assignments better than the rookies that would give the Pats a bit more push up front.

It's Boston.  For years he focused on unglamorous defensive players and everyone was clamoring for him to take offensive skill players higher up.  Part of the problem is that all the Boston teams are competitive now, so people get stuck whining that Rondo's not a good enough PG, Doc's not a good enough coach, and Belichick's not a good enough drafter.

I know. Seriously. Stop making stupid moves and saying things like "Well I trust BB." or "I trust Danny" and win a ring already. How long do I have to wait? Either you win a ring or as a Boston fan I will let you know you didn't and why.

Danny Ainge and Bill Belichek walk into a bar. One says to the other "I like to ruin championship teams with awful trades." The other says "Really? Me too!"

I'm wrong? Then go win a ring and stop telling me these guys are geniuses. It's 2011, not 2004.

I really can't tell if you're being serious right now. 

What pass rusher should we have taken over Mallet or one of the RBs?

Also, what don't you like about Ras-I Dowling?

The only thing I don't like about Dowling is that unless our eyes are lying he comes at a position of extreme unneed

I guess what would have made me happy was more like Brooks Reed, then Jonas Mouton, then maybe Leonard Hankerson

i dunno, outside of mccourty, what CB that we currently have on the roster do you trust?

I guess i like bodin, if he comes back strong, but butler, wilhte and weathley don't really impress me at all, and i consider all of them nickle backs at best, and not good ones at that.

If dowling can become a second ++ starter, i'm a fan of that pick.

Depth doesn't always mean you don't have a need

I trust both Arrington and Bodden if given a pass rush and at least Butler is still in the improvement phase of his career

fair enough, i thought arrington was to easily beaten by solid route runners and bodden has injury concerns.

i don't think butler is good, at all. he has no cover skills, though he has nice speed

I didn't expect much from a rookie stuck on an island with no pass rush

[crownsy]

Sorry but I really like what Belichick has done over the last couple of years in the draft. Let's not forget he did draft Cunningham and Spikes as speed LBs that could get after a QB. He's still developing them and so far they look real good. Ty Warren will also be returning this year as will Leigh Bodden. Belichick has every reason to believe that his youngest defense in the league that had 4 Pro Bowlers will develop further and get better.

Last year Belichick drafted two TEs that have Pro Bowl talent and futures(Hernandez and Gronkowski), a Pro Bowl CB(McCourty), a heck of a young punt(Mesko), the two aforementioned talented LBs(Spikes and Cunningham) and a project with athleticism and skills at WR(Price).

This year, Solder is a giant of a man with off the charts athleticism for a man his size, Dowling is a big tough DB that has first round skills but slid because he missed half the year, the RBs(Vereen and Ridley) will be great young replacements for the third down specialists and special teams that are getting old and Mallet, though a supposed drug using punk that thinks he's Eminem, is easily the 2nd or 3rd most talented QB in this draft class and not one single scout had a bad thing to say about his skills(except his speed) or his ability and desire to bring it on game day. On the field the kid is a warrior.

I don't get the pessimism. I fully expect Belichick to pick up a 3-4 DE in the coming rounds and an OLB. I also expect him to sign free agents in these areas that might understand his schemes and assignments better than the rookies that would give the Pats a bit more push up front.

It's Boston.  For years he focused on unglamorous defensive players and everyone was clamoring for him to take offensive skill players higher up.  Part of the problem is that all the Boston teams are competitive now, so people get stuck whining that Rondo's not a good enough PG, Doc's not a good enough coach, and Belichick's not a good enough drafter.

I know. Seriously. Stop making stupid moves and saying things like "Well I trust BB." or "I trust Danny" and win a ring already. How long do I have to wait? Either you win a ring or as a Boston fan I will let you know you didn't and why.

Danny Ainge and Bill Belichek walk into a bar. One says to the other "I like to ruin championship teams with awful trades." The other says "Really? Me too!"

I'm wrong? Then go win a ring and stop telling me these guys are geniuses. It's 2011, not 2004.

I really can't tell if you're being serious right now. 

What pass rusher should we have taken over Mallet or one of the RBs?

Also, what don't you like about Ras-I Dowling?

The only thing I don't like about Dowling is that unless our eyes are lying he comes at a position of extreme unneed

I guess what would have made me happy was more like Brooks Reed, then Jonas Mouton, then maybe Leonard Hankerson

i dunno, outside of mccourty, what CB that we currently have on the roster do you trust?

I guess i like bodin, if he comes back strong, but butler, wilhte and weathley don't really impress me at all, and i consider all of them nickle backs at best, and not good ones at that.

If dowling can become a second ++ starter, i'm a fan of that pick.

Depth doesn't always mean you don't have a need

I trust both Arrington and Bodden if given a pass rush and at least Butler is still in the improvement phase of his career

fair enough, i thought arrington was to easily beaten by solid route runners and bodden has injury concerns.

i don't think butler is good, at all. he has no cover skills, though he has nice speed

I didn't expect much from a rookie stuck on an island with no pass rush

Mccourty seems to have done alright.

also isn;t it kind telling that a undrafted rookie FA and a journeyman pushed him to 4th on the depth chart?

given that they weren't exactly deep at CB behind mccourty and who took his job, kinda tells me something that he couldn't stay on the field.

[Eja117]

Sorry but I really like what Belichick has done over the last couple of years in the draft. Let's not forget he did draft Cunningham and Spikes as speed LBs that could get after a QB. He's still developing them and so far they look real good. Ty Warren will also be returning this year as will Leigh Bodden. Belichick has every reason to believe that his youngest defense in the league that had 4 Pro Bowlers will develop further and get better.

Last year Belichick drafted two TEs that have Pro Bowl talent and futures(Hernandez and Gronkowski), a Pro Bowl CB(McCourty), a heck of a young punt(Mesko), the two aforementioned talented LBs(Spikes and Cunningham) and a project with athleticism and skills at WR(Price).

This year, Solder is a giant of a man with off the charts athleticism for a man his size, Dowling is a big tough DB that has first round skills but slid because he missed half the year, the RBs(Vereen and Ridley) will be great young replacements for the third down specialists and special teams that are getting old and Mallet, though a supposed drug using punk that thinks he's Eminem, is easily the 2nd or 3rd most talented QB in this draft class and not one single scout had a bad thing to say about his skills(except his speed) or his ability and desire to bring it on game day. On the field the kid is a warrior.

I don't get the pessimism. I fully expect Belichick to pick up a 3-4 DE in the coming rounds and an OLB. I also expect him to sign free agents in these areas that might understand his schemes and assignments better than the rookies that would give the Pats a bit more push up front.

It's Boston.  For years he focused on unglamorous defensive players and everyone was clamoring for him to take offensive skill players higher up.  Part of the problem is that all the Boston teams are competitive now, so people get stuck whining that Rondo's not a good enough PG, Doc's not a good enough coach, and Belichick's not a good enough drafter.

I know. Seriously. Stop making stupid moves and saying things like "Well I trust BB." or "I trust Danny" and win a ring already. How long do I have to wait? Either you win a ring or as a Boston fan I will let you know you didn't and why.

Danny Ainge and Bill Belichek walk into a bar. One says to the other "I like to ruin championship teams with awful trades." The other says "Really? Me too!"

I'm wrong? Then go win a ring and stop telling me these guys are geniuses. It's 2011, not 2004.

I really can't tell if you're being serious right now. 

What pass rusher should we have taken over Mallet or one of the RBs?

Also, what don't you like about Ras-I Dowling?

The only thing I don't like about Dowling is that unless our eyes are lying he comes at a position of extreme unneed

I guess what would have made me happy was more like Brooks Reed, then Jonas Mouton, then maybe Leonard Hankerson

i dunno, outside of mccourty, what CB that we currently have on the roster do you trust?

I guess i like bodin, if he comes back strong, but butler, wilhte and weathley don't really impress me at all, and i consider all of them nickle backs at best, and not good ones at that.

If dowling can become a second ++ starter, i'm a fan of that pick.

Depth doesn't always mean you don't have a need

I trust both Arrington and Bodden if given a pass rush and at least Butler is still in the improvement phase of his career

fair enough, i thought arrington was to easily beaten by solid route runners and bodden has injury concerns.

i don't think butler is good, at all. he has no cover skills, though he has nice speed

I didn't expect much from a rookie stuck on an island with no pass rush

Mccourty seems to have done alright.

also isn;t it kind telling that a undrafted rookie FA and a journeyman pushed him to 4th on the depth chart?

given that they weren't exactly deep at CB behind mccourty and who took his job, kinda tells me something that he couldn't stay on the field.

i meant I didn't expect much from Arrington. it doesn't bother me that people think Butler is another Wheatley. It's just that he had a good rookie year and Wheatley never did.

Also I admit I feel terrorized by trying not to confuse the spelling of the Pats 2nd round DB from Colorado and the Michigan RB picked by the Giants in the 1rst round a really long time ago back when PSU went to the Rose Bowl with Ki Jana Carter and Rashan Salaam won the Heisman

[saltlover]

I don't know who wanted Jonas Mouton, but I assure you you didn't really want him.  I was shocked he was taken in the 2nd round.  I wouldn't have been surprised if he wasn't drafted.  In my opinion, that was the worst pick of the draft.  He's not fast, is horrible in coverage, and can't tackle.  Watched him for years at Michigan, and while he played hard, I can't wait for better LB's to start playing.

And again, it's fine to want championships every year.  At some point there's a little bit of luck involved, and you have to remember there are 29-31 other teams playing too (depending on what sport we're talking about).  In the NFL, there are salary limitations and roster limitations, sometimes forcing you to get rid of a player you'd otherwise keep, and vice-versa.  There are tons of injuries.  To be an elite team most every year for a decade is incredibly impresssive.  As a Broncos fan, I'm 100% jealous.  We've been a mediocre team every year for a decade, until finally last year we just plain stunk (which I was pleased with if for no other reason that it broke the monotony of mediocrity.)

Seriously, if Brady got hurt next year, and your season was resting on Brian Hoyer's shoulders, some of you would start trashing the Pats for not having a good enough back-up and risking the entire season on the health of one player.  Enjoy Mallett, and enjoy another deep run in the playoffs that might end up with a Super Bowl.  Meanwhile, I'm hoping the Broncos finish in dead last for a good first-round pick in 2012.

[Eja117]

I don't know who wanted Jonas Mouton, but I assure you you didn't really want him.  I was shocked he was taken in the 2nd round.  I wouldn't have been surprised if he wasn't drafted.  In my opinion, that was the worst pick of the draft.  He's not fast, is horrible in coverage, and can't tackle.  Watched him for years at Michigan, and while he played hard, I can't wait for better LB's to start playing.

And again, it's fine to want championships every year.  At some point there's a little bit of luck involved, and you have to remember there are 29-31 other teams playing too (depending on what sport we're talking about).  In the NFL, there are salary limitations and roster limitations, sometimes forcing you to get rid of a player you'd otherwise keep, and vice-versa.  There are tons of injuries.  To be an elite team most every year for a decade is incredibly impresssive.  As a Broncos fan, I'm 100% jealous.  We've been a mediocre team every year for a decade, until finally last year we just plain stunk (which I was pleased with if for no other reason that it broke the monotony of mediocrity.)

Seriously, if Brady got hurt next year, and your season was resting on Brian Hoyer's shoulders, some of you would start trashing the Pats for not having a good enough back-up and risking the entire season on the health of one player.  Enjoy Mallett, and enjoy another deep run in the playoffs that might end up with a Super Bowl.  Meanwhile, I'm hoping the Broncos finish in dead last for a good first-round pick in 2012.

I can't remember the last deep run the Patriots had

[clover]

And now with Lee Smith another big guy for the offense.

[guava_wrench]

I think Bill is also the one who gave him the marijuana.

 

[Tai]

BB can't draft any more. I don't really care Mallet might be good 4 years from now. We need a pass rush last year. And the year before.

He used to draft starting QBs in the 6th and 7th rounds when there was no need. Now he takes them in the 3rd. And misses. Rohan Davey (4th) Kevin O'Connell and now Mallet.

He also drafts DB excessively and misses on most of them too. Tyrone Wheatley. Donald Butler. Jason Wilhite. Gus Scott. Dexter Reid. Now Ras I.   Hey Belichek. You'd be amazed how good Kyle Arrington can be if you can rush the passer. Oh but you can't.

Wait a second. I can understand if you don't actually like Mallett. But, you don't care if he could be good in 4 years? If so, what was the point of making a topic suggesting Brady be traded for picks, saying that he may not really have it anymore and that he's getting old after losing one game (albeit a playoff one) and coming off a MVP season, no less? Or were you just overreacting?

And how do we know Ras I was a miss? He's supposedly one of the better CBs this year. Better than getting what may be seen as a middle-of-the-road defensive line guy that can be gotten later.

And honestly, if Ras-I pans out, having 3 reliable CBs in McCourty, Bodden, and Ras-I next season...if your true problem with Bill that he hasn't gotten us a Super Bowl in seven years, I don't know if 3 reliable CBs can be looked at as a luxury as opposed to an actual necessity. As in, maybe Ras-I really is a need for a team looking to win Super Bowls and have failed the season otherwise.

[Tai]

BB can't draft any more. I don't really care Mallet might be good 4 years from now. We need a pass rush last year. And the year before.

He used to draft starting QBs in the 6th and 7th rounds when there was no need. Now he takes them in the 3rd. And misses. Rohan Davey (4th) Kevin O'Connell and now Mallet.

He also drafts DB excessively and misses on most of them too. Tyrone Wheatley. Donald Butler. Jason Wilhite. Gus Scott. Dexter Reid. Now Ras I.   Hey Belichek. You'd be amazed how good Kyle Arrington can be if you can rush the passer. Oh but you can't.

And its the exact same thing about drafting pass rushers.  If he drafts a pass rusher who he doesn't think can do the job just because he is a pass rusher he is going to have to do the same thing next year.  

This team was the youngest in the league especially on defense.  Why do you want them to take projects on the defensive side?  If you want them to win now shouldn't they be looking to fill those holes with veterans?  

This is who BB is and he had a hell of a draft last year.  It is complete and utter hyperbole to say that he cannot draft.  I'm not saying you can't criticize.  But it is pointless to get up in arms every year about him trading down and getting picks for next year.  It is his draft philosophy, he will always do it.

Great. Then use a pick on a need already instead of a 4th RB. Instead of having a horrid horrid pass rush year after year actually do something about it.

What I can't shake is the feeling BB almost makes FU picks. Would it surprise a single one of us if his next 4 picks are a combo of something like QB, TE, K, DB?  

What is the point of that?  

I refuse to believe there hasn't been pass rushing value in the last 3 drafts and I refuse to believe for the moment that Jermaine Cunningham represents such great value at that position. Nor Myron Pryor. Nor Kade Weston. Nor Ron Brace. Not till I see it. You say it wouldn't make sense to draft a project on defense. What do you call those guys? A veteran? You mean like Gerard Warren and who was it last year? Damoine Lewis?

Just make the Gooooodddd dammmmnnnneeeddd pick at a frickin position of need. It's the NFL draft. Not monopoly.

We could have used Pryor and Brace in the playoffs, but they were injured. Or is Bill gonna be accused of drafting injury-prone players by you?

[Eja117]

BB can't draft any more. I don't really care Mallet might be good 4 years from now. We need a pass rush last year. And the year before.

He used to draft starting QBs in the 6th and 7th rounds when there was no need. Now he takes them in the 3rd. And misses. Rohan Davey (4th) Kevin O'Connell and now Mallet.

He also drafts DB excessively and misses on most of them too. Tyrone Wheatley. Donald Butler. Jason Wilhite. Gus Scott. Dexter Reid. Now Ras I.   Hey Belichek. You'd be amazed how good Kyle Arrington can be if you can rush the passer. Oh but you can't.

And its the exact same thing about drafting pass rushers.  If he drafts a pass rusher who he doesn't think can do the job just because he is a pass rusher he is going to have to do the same thing next year.  

This team was the youngest in the league especially on defense.  Why do you want them to take projects on the defensive side?  If you want them to win now shouldn't they be looking to fill those holes with veterans?  

This is who BB is and he had a hell of a draft last year.  It is complete and utter hyperbole to say that he cannot draft.  I'm not saying you can't criticize.  But it is pointless to get up in arms every year about him trading down and getting picks for next year.  It is his draft philosophy, he will always do it.

Great. Then use a pick on a need already instead of a 4th RB. Instead of having a horrid horrid pass rush year after year actually do something about it.

What I can't shake is the feeling BB almost makes FU picks. Would it surprise a single one of us if his next 4 picks are a combo of something like QB, TE, K, DB?  

What is the point of that?  

I refuse to believe there hasn't been pass rushing value in the last 3 drafts and I refuse to believe for the moment that Jermaine Cunningham represents such great value at that position. Nor Myron Pryor. Nor Kade Weston. Nor Ron Brace. Not till I see it. You say it wouldn't make sense to draft a project on defense. What do you call those guys? A veteran? You mean like Gerard Warren and who was it last year? Damoine Lewis?

Just make the Gooooodddd dammmmnnnneeeddd pick at a frickin position of need. It's the NFL draft. Not monopoly.

We could have used Pryor and Brace in the playoffs, but they were injured. Or is Bill gonna be accused of drafting injury-prone players by you?

I wouldn't say he drafts players more injury prone than other teams. I'm on board with Cannon.

I never said Tom Brady should be traded for picks.  I don't think Pryor nor Brace would have helped make the difference at all.

[elcotte]

BB can't draft any more. I don't really care Mallet might be good 4 years from now. We need a pass rush last year. And the year before.

He used to draft starting QBs in the 6th and 7th rounds when there was no need. Now he takes them in the 3rd. And misses. Rohan Davey (4th) Kevin O'Connell and now Mallet.

He also drafts DB excessively and misses on most of them too. Tyrone Wheatley. Donald Butler. Jason Wilhite. Gus Scott. Dexter Reid. Now Ras I.   Hey Belichek. You'd be amazed how good Kyle Arrington can be if you can rush the passer. Oh but you can't.

I'm a Broncos fan.  I'd love Belichek to come run my team tomorrow.  Or yesterday.  You've got a great thing here.

And i wouldn't want anyone else coaching my team as a Pat's fan, i think he's one of if not the best coach of all time.

What gets to me and EJA is that when you make legitimate criticisms of him, you get met with a wave of "you can't question him, he's BB" posts.

Being a great coach does not make you immune to criticism 

Nor does being a blog-poster.

I'm waiting for BB to prove me wrong. Any day now would be nice.

Prove you wrong? What exactly have you accomplished? You're a blogger! A sit on your butt and opine.....that's it. Yea, you need to be proven wrong.