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How much blame does Doc deserve since the trade?
« on: April 07, 2011, 10:27:19 PM »

Offline mahonedog88

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I'll be the first to admit, I'm in a bad mood about this Chicago game.

But I gotta be honest, strictly in my opinion, Doc has done a horrible job implementing the new pieces and rotations since the trade.  He's continuing to play the Krstic/Davis frontcourt way too much which we can all agree doesn't work...he's not playing Jeff Green nearly enough in my opinion, same thing with Jermaine O'Neal.

And god forbid he gave more of a chance to Troy Murphy...I mean, the front office was practically on their knees begging for Troy to come here, he gets here and isn't give that much of a chance but again...all in my opinion.


Re: How much blame does Doc deserve since the trade?
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2011, 10:37:43 PM »

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It's still early in Jermaine O'Neal's recovery so I am not bothered by his low minutes.

I would rather the team take a cautious approach on a player who has struggled with injury throughout the season and most of his career.

Re: How much blame does Doc deserve since the trade?
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2011, 10:38:39 PM »

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doc rivers has always had a problem with creating the proper rotations.

he has never really trusted the bench. i still blame him for game 7 last year in LA where he basically chose to tire out our starting lineup instead of creating a proper rotation just because it was the final game and he didn't trust them. this only leads to our big 4 getting exhausted and everyone else not getting proper playing time. it's a lose-lose situation.

Re: How much blame does Doc deserve since the trade?
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2011, 10:45:05 PM »

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I've never liked Doc's rotations. That's my one gripe with him. I don't have a problem with JO playing low minutes: he's recovering. But I want to see more Jeff Green, less Davis, and a little Troy Murphy. Doc was out coached tonight.

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« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2011, 10:47:11 PM »

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His fault tonight, fans don't get that Rose did exactly what he did in last game which was drive all night on Glen Davis. Taking JO out early screw them. Cedric Maxwell said it best when "this game got out of hand when KG left." Doc didn't care how Rondo was effective on fast break to maybe put in Jeff Green. Somebody to just rebound and send Rondo on his way, it got you the lead. Instead he put in Baby and then keeps the formula of Delonte and Jeff together, not smart. Jeff should have been on the floor when Ray was getting mugged. Doc didn't try to protect his guards at all tonight. He lost this game.

Re: How much blame does Doc deserve since the trade?
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2011, 10:47:48 PM »

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Doc certainly deserves his fair share of the blame.  Rotations have been spotty and he hasn't done a very good job of integrating the new guys.
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Re: How much blame does Doc deserve since the trade?
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2011, 10:57:48 PM »

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I couldn't believe his stare at Jeff Green, did anyone think Green shouldn't even be in with this rotation? Not surprised Bulls had 44 points in the paint.

Re: How much blame does Doc deserve since the trade?
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2011, 10:58:49 PM »

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I always felt if you gave Doc more ingredients he wouldn't know how to handle the recipe.

It was the same way when Doc had Pierce, Toine, Ricky, Lafrentz and GP. He didn't know how to incorporate all the talent.

Doc's best way is to let the players handle it all.

Right now our big time players aren't playing so big...at least not at the same time.


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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2011, 10:59:27 PM »

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It's still early in Jermaine O'Neal's recovery so I am not bothered by his low minutes.

I would rather the team take a cautious approach on a player who has struggled with injury throughout the season and most of his career.

But why does Doc play Glen Davis soooooo much??? That drives me crazy!!!

Re: How much blame does Doc deserve since the trade?
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2011, 11:01:51 PM »

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It's still early in Jermaine O'Neal's recovery so I am not bothered by his low minutes.

I would rather the team take a cautious approach on a player who has struggled with injury throughout the season and most of his career.

But why does Doc play Glen Davis soooooo much??? That drives me crazy!!!

Glen Davis was our best player tonight, he wasn't the problem.

Re: How much blame does Doc deserve since the trade?
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2011, 11:09:10 PM »

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It's still early in Jermaine O'Neal's recovery so I am not bothered by his low minutes.

I would rather the team take a cautious approach on a player who has struggled with injury throughout the season and most of his career.

But why does Doc play Glen Davis soooooo much??? That drives me crazy!!!

Glen Davis was our best player tonight, he wasn't the problem.

I am not saying Davis is a problem. I just don't understand why Doc plays him so much, especially at center.

He is not a center. You've got Jermaine O'Neal, Krstic and Troy Murphy...all 7 footers. Why is the 6'9 Davis in that spot?

Re: How much blame does Doc deserve since the trade?
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2011, 11:15:24 PM »

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It's still early in Jermaine O'Neal's recovery so I am not bothered by his low minutes.

I would rather the team take a cautious approach on a player who has struggled with injury throughout the season and most of his career.

But why does Doc play Glen Davis soooooo much??? That drives me crazy!!!

Glen Davis was our best player tonight, he wasn't the problem.

I am not saying Davis is a problem. I just don't understand why Doc plays him so much, especially at center.

He is not a center. You've got Jermaine O'Neal, Krstic and Troy Murphy...all 7 footers. Why is the 6'9 Davis in that spot?

Noah and Thomas scored 4 total points.

In my opinion, Baby is the only Celtic player that tries to box out, but he has no hops and opposing players can swat balls out for offensive rebounds.

Other than Perk, who's no longer on our team, Baby is the only Celtic big who tries to use his body to rebound.

Re: How much blame does Doc deserve since the trade?
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2011, 11:20:41 PM »

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It's still early in Jermaine O'Neal's recovery so I am not bothered by his low minutes.

I would rather the team take a cautious approach on a player who has struggled with injury throughout the season and most of his career.

But why does Doc play Glen Davis soooooo much??? That drives me crazy!!!

Glen Davis was our best player tonight, he wasn't the problem.

Baby shot 1-8 to go along with 3 rebounds and he was our best player? Scary...guess that shows how bad we played.

Re: How much blame does Doc deserve since the trade?
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2011, 11:22:10 PM »

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It's still early in Jermaine O'Neal's recovery so I am not bothered by his low minutes.

I would rather the team take a cautious approach on a player who has struggled with injury throughout the season and most of his career.

But why does Doc play Glen Davis soooooo much??? That drives me crazy!!!


Glen Davis was our best player tonight, he wasn't the problem.

If our best player shoots 1-8, you know it's been a terrible game ;)

Big Baby's help defense isn't good enough against a team like the Bulls, since Rose, Deng, Boozer and others can shoot over him in the paint. I think Rose took one drive against JO and got rejected, never did it again. That is probably one of the keys to beat the Bulls (same reason the Bulls could be in trouble against Magic).

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« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2011, 11:26:27 PM »

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It's still early in Jermaine O'Neal's recovery so I am not bothered by his low minutes.

I would rather the team take a cautious approach on a player who has struggled with injury throughout the season and most of his career.

But why does Doc play Glen Davis soooooo much??? That drives me crazy!!!

Glen Davis was our best player tonight, he wasn't the problem.

Baby shot 1-8 to go along with 3 rebounds and he was our best player? Scary...guess that shows how bad we played.

You beat me to it. I thought that Baby continued his string of bad games tonight.