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record vs the best
« on: April 01, 2011, 03:38:09 PM »

Offline Jeff

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ok, more math

anyone have some splits on our record vs. the top title contenders? (Lakers, Bulls, Heat, Spurs, Mavs, Magic?)

are we the best against those teams?
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« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2011, 03:50:14 PM »

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I looked this up a day or two ago to compare how we did vs. contenders with and without Shaq.

Total I believe it is:
Lakers: 1-1
Bulls: 2-1
Heat: 3-0
Spurs: 2-0
Mavs: 0-2
Magic: 2-1

So 10-5 for the teams you listed.  We're also 2-0 vs the Hawks and 1-0 vs the Melo-Knicks.  I know we were number 1 last time I saw the rankings of this stat but I think the Bulls were 2nd and I don't know if they've passed us.  I'm pretty sure the Heat and Lakers are still the two worst contenders vs contenders.
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« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2011, 03:56:19 PM »

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folks may wish to double check, but a quick glance of the celtics schedule showed the following:

Wins - Loses
Dallas 0 -2 (c's lost by 2 pts and 4 pts)
LAL 1 - 1
SA 2 - 0
Miami 3 - 0
Chicago 2 - 1
Orlando 2 - 1
TOTAL 10 - 5

pretty darn good. let hope the celtics keep it up.

DANG!!! i was 7 minutes too slow!!!!  :P
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« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2011, 03:59:11 PM »

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Celtics

Versus the Lakers : 1-1
Versus the Bulls : 2-1
Versus the Heat : 3-0
Versus the Spurs : 2-0
Versus the Mavs (not counting them as title contenders but still) : 0-2
Versus the Magic (ditto) : 2-1

Total against the top teams : 10-5

Bulls

Versus the Lakers : 1-1
Versus the Celtics : 1-2
Versus the Heat : 3-0
Versus the Spurs : 1-1
Versus the Mavs : 2-0
Versus the Magic  : 2-1

Total against the top teams : 10-5

Lakers

Versus the Celtics : 1-1
Versus the Bulls : 1-1
Versus the Heat : 0-2
Versus the Spurs : 1-2
Versus the Mavs : 2-1
Versus the Magic : 1-1

Total against the top teams : 6-8

Spurs

Versus the Celtics : 0-2
Versus the Bulls : 1-1
Versus the Heat : 1-1
Versus the Lakers : 2-1
Versus the Mavs : 3-1
Versus the Magic : 1-1

Total against the top teams : 8-7

Heat

Versus the Celtics : 0-3
Versus the Bulls : 0-3
Versus the Spurs : 1-1
Versus the Lakers : 2-0
Versus the Mavs : 0-2
Versus the Magic : 2-2

Total against the top teams : 5-11

Mavericks

Versus the Celtics : 2-0
Versus the Bulls : 0-2
Versus the Spurs : 1-3
Versus the Lakers : 1-2
Versus the Heat : 2-0
Versus the Magic : 1-1

Total against the top teams : 7-8

Magic

Versus the Celtics : 1-2
Versus the Bulls : 1-2
Versus the Spurs : 1-1
Versus the Lakers : 1-1
Versus the Heat : 2-2
Versus the Mavs : 1-1

Total against the top teams : 7-9

So overall, from best record against the elite teams to the worst, we have :

1. Celtics & Bulls in a tie (with the C's having the edge against Chicago so far, 2-1) : 10-5

2. Spurs : 8-7

3. Mavericks : 7-8

4. Magic : 7-9

5. Lakers : 6-8

6. Heat : 5-11
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« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2011, 04:25:16 PM »

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Elite teams vs elite teams, if you have .500 record or better, you got a good shot to win that playoff series.

We should win our playoff series 4-2 in most cases.
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« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2011, 04:26:58 PM »

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Nice breakdown, Drucci. TP.
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« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2011, 04:31:35 PM »

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i dont think orlando belongs in there or then you gotta include OKC too.

Still take orlando out and we are still doing well

Boston 8-4
Chicago 8-4
Spurs 7-6
Mavs 6-7
Lakers 5-7
Heat 3-9
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« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2011, 04:48:26 PM »

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this is great Drucci and others, thanks
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« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2011, 09:56:52 PM »

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Quote from: LB3533 on April 01, 2011, 04:25:16 PM
Elite teams vs elite teams, if you have .500 record or better, you got a good shot to win that playoff series.

We should win our playoff series 4-2 in most cases.

Yeah, because our record against the Cavs and Magic last year really demonstrated the predictive power of this metric.
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