Danny. It's not the trade. It's the lying. And the lying has got to stop. Please

[BballTim]

many of Ainge's post-2008-title moves have been attempts to make up for his major screw-up of not keeping james posey in green. how important does that extra year Posey wanted look now ? good chance we'd be defending champs right now if Posey was still in Boston.

  Posey wasn't worth the money he was getting last year and he's still under contract for more money next year. That signing was a disaster, and Danny was smart to avoid it. It's not a stretch to say that Posey didn't look much (if any) better than Scal when we played them last year.

And I doubt Perk will be worth what he'll be making, either.

  At least Perk is a good risk for it. He's 26, really just entering his prime as a player. Posey was just finishing his. His play was very likely to decline as he aged and his contract was getting bigger every year. The years when he'd be playing the worst he'd be making the most money.

[Eja117]

Ok here I go to try to clarify.

1  I don't think for one second that Perk didn't think he'd be here next year. Not one. Ok maybe one, but not two. If he did it was because the man had the audacity to think he should be paid fairly.  

2.  Nenad Krstic hasn't averaged over 10ppg in 4 seasons and hasn't averaged over 5.5 rebs per game in that time.  He has NEVER averaged over 7 rebs per game in a season. His career fg% is 49.1.  He has averaged over one block per game once in his 7 year career. In a town with centers named Bill Russell, Perk, and Chief I don't consider that a starting center. More like a girl scout. And not a hard working one who sells lots of cookies and gets lots of merit badges.  "We believe Nenad is a starting center in this league" was said by a co owner of the team on WEEI and I almost gagged when I heard it. This kind of lying really really needs to stop.

3. You really think Jermaine O'Neal will be healthy for the playoffs? Because he and Danny Ainge say so?  I know "healthy" is a subjective term. He might be healthy enough for a walk on the beach. He might be healthy enough to eat some spicy wings.  But to contribute in the playoffs? I'll believe it when I see it.  Personally I think Stephen Hawking has a better chance of being "healthy" for the playoffs. I hope I'm wrong.

4. Who do you think they are saying the whole Semih going to Turkey thing to? Who do you think the intended audience is? Every GM in the league? The Cavs? Oh hey!  Danny fleeced you!  The intended audience is clearly us.  In which case I have to ask "Then why was he here in the first place? You didn't look into this?"  When was the last time a Euro came here, won a ring, and then went back to Turkey?  I know my way around East Europe. Most of the people are itching to get here. Not the other way around.

5.  I don't think he's lying in his own head about trading Bird and that's the problem. Besides the whole Monday Morning Quarterbacking thing.  Tom Brady hasn't won a playoff game since 2007 and I say we should shop him and there's gnashing and wailing of teeth. But if Danny trades one of the best defensive centers in the league or if he says he would have traded Bird in his prime it's ok?   What next? The Celts held on too long to Russell?  And I'm the downer?

I get the whole "Danny doesn't owe anybody anything" routine. He doesn't owe Perk a thing. He doesn't owe me a thing. Well guess what? I don't owe him a thing. And if he gets fired then don't let the door slam you on the way out.

He doesn't have to lie. He could just say "I'm taking a huge calculated risk and I really hope it pays off but I could be wrong"

Or he could just pull a Belichek and say "We made the trade we thought we needed and would help us best" and then shut the heeellll up.  

What is wrong with that?

Scariest phrases to hear in the English language

For a business owner or really anyone....I'm from the government. I'm here to help.

For a person with a home by the ocean....Hi. We're from BP. We just found oil off your coast and we think we can get it safely.

For a Boston Celtic that likes playing in Boston .....Danny what do you think of so and so? ......Well I think he's a great player who can probably help us a lot for a long time.

[rondohondo]

Ok here I go to try to clarify.

1  I don't think for one second that Perk didn't think he'd be here next year. Not one. Ok maybe one, but not two. If he did it was because the man had the audacity to think he should be paid fairly.  

2.  Nenad Krstic hasn't averaged over 10ppg in 4 seasons and hasn't averaged over 5.5 rebs per game in that time.  He has NEVER averaged over 7 rebs per game in a season. His career fg% is 49.1.  He has averaged over one block per game once in his 7 year career. In a town with centers named Bill Russell, Perk, and Chief I don't consider that a starting center. More like a girl scout. And not a hard working one who sells lots of cookies and gets lots of merit badges.  "We believe Nenad is a starting center in this league" was said by a co owner of the team on WEEI and I almost gagged when I heard it. This kind of lying really really needs to stop.

3. You really think Jermaine O'Neal will be healthy for the playoffs? Because he and Danny Ainge say so?  I know "healthy" is a subjective term. He might be healthy enough for a walk on the beach. He might be healthy enough to eat some spicy wings.  But to contribute in the playoffs? I'll believe it when I see it.  Personally I think Stephen Hawking has a better chance of being "healthy" for the playoffs. I hope I'm wrong.

4. Who do you think they are saying the whole Semih going to Turkey thing to? Who do you think the intended audience is? Every GM in the league? The Cavs? Oh hey!  Danny fleeced you!  The intended audience is clearly us.  In which case I have to ask "Then why was he here in the first place? You didn't look into this?"  When was the last time a Euro came here, won a ring, and then went back to Turkey?  I know my way around East Europe. Most of the people are itching to get here. Not the other way around.

5.  I don't think he's lying in his own head about trading Bird and that's the problem. Besides the whole Monday Morning Quarterbacking thing.  Tom Brady hasn't won a playoff game since 2007 and I say we should shop him and there's gnashing and wailing of teeth. But if Danny trades one of the best defensive centers in the league or if he says he would have traded Bird in his prime it's ok?   What next? The Celts held on too long to Russell?  And I'm the downer?

I get the whole "Danny doesn't owe anybody anything" routine. He doesn't owe Perk a thing. He doesn't owe me a thing. Well guess what? I don't owe him a thing. And if he gets fired then don't let the door slam you on the way out.

He doesn't have to lie. He could just say "I'm taking a huge calculated risk and I really hope it pays off but I could be wrong"

Or he could just pull a Belichek and say "We made the trade we thought we needed and would help us best" and then shut the heeellll up.  

What is wrong with that?

Scariest phrases to hear in the English language

For a business owner or really anyone....I'm from the government. I'm here to help.

For a person with a home by the ocean....Hi. We're from BP. We just found oil off your coast and we think we can get it safely.

For a Boston Celtic that likes playing in Boston .....Danny what do you think of so and so? ......Well I think he's a great player who can probably help us a lot for a long time.

ok so now Perkins on the level of Tom Brady and Larry Bird?

wow , just wow

[bruinsandceltics]

Ok here I go to try to clarify.

1  I don't think for one second that Perk didn't think he'd be here next year. Not one. Ok maybe one, but not two. If he did it was because the man had the audacity to think he should be paid fairly.  

2.  Nenad Krstic hasn't averaged over 10ppg in 4 seasons and hasn't averaged over 5.5 rebs per game in that time.  He has NEVER averaged over 7 rebs per game in a season. His career fg% is 49.1.  He has averaged over one block per game once in his 7 year career. In a town with centers named Bill Russell, Perk, and Chief I don't consider that a starting center. More like a girl scout. And not a hard working one who sells lots of cookies and gets lots of merit badges.  "We believe Nenad is a starting center in this league" was said by a co owner of the team on WEEI and I almost gagged when I heard it. This kind of lying really really needs to stop.

3. You really think Jermaine O'Neal will be healthy for the playoffs? Because he and Danny Ainge say so?  I know "healthy" is a subjective term. He might be healthy enough for a walk on the beach. He might be healthy enough to eat some spicy wings.  But to contribute in the playoffs? I'll believe it when I see it.  Personally I think Stephen Hawking has a better chance of being "healthy" for the playoffs. I hope I'm wrong.

4. Who do you think they are saying the whole Semih going to Turkey thing to? Who do you think the intended audience is? Every GM in the league? The Cavs? Oh hey!  Danny fleeced you!  The intended audience is clearly us.  In which case I have to ask "Then why was he here in the first place? You didn't look into this?"  When was the last time a Euro came here, won a ring, and then went back to Turkey?  I know my way around East Europe. Most of the people are itching to get here. Not the other way around.

5.  I don't think he's lying in his own head about trading Bird and that's the problem. Besides the whole Monday Morning Quarterbacking thing.  Tom Brady hasn't won a playoff game since 2007 and I say we should shop him and there's gnashing and wailing of teeth. But if Danny trades one of the best defensive centers in the league or if he says he would have traded Bird in his prime it's ok?   What next? The Celts held on too long to Russell?  And I'm the downer?

I get the whole "Danny doesn't owe anybody anything" routine. He doesn't owe Perk a thing. He doesn't owe me a thing. Well guess what? I don't owe him a thing. And if he gets fired then don't let the door slam you on the way out.

He doesn't have to lie. He could just say "I'm taking a huge calculated risk and I really hope it pays off but I could be wrong"

Or he could just pull a Belichek and say "We made the trade we thought we needed and would help us best" and then shut the heeellll up.  

What is wrong with that?

Scariest phrases to hear in the English language

For a business owner or really anyone....I'm from the government. I'm here to help.

For a person with a home by the ocean....Hi. We're from BP. We just found oil off your coast and we think we can get it safely.

For a Boston Celtic that likes playing in Boston .....Danny what do you think of so and so? ......Well I think he's a great player who can probably help us a lot for a long time.

I'm not going to address the rest of your points because I don't want to.

Perk is not worth 9 million a year. I loved him. He brought it night in and night out and had his teammates backs no matter what. But he didn't provide enough on offense or on the boards to warrant that salary. He had every right to demand that salary, because some team was willing to bite and he knew it. But that doesn't mean the Celtics should pay him that. If you get into the market of paying role players more than they are really worth just because someone else would pay them that much you aren't going to win anything ever. Good luck to him in OKC and I'm happy he got paid what he wanted, but I am even happier that the Celtics didn't pay him that.

[Eja117]

Ok here I go to try to clarify.

1  I don't think for one second that Perk didn't think he'd be here next year. Not one. Ok maybe one, but not two. If he did it was because the man had the audacity to think he should be paid fairly.  

2.  Nenad Krstic hasn't averaged over 10ppg in 4 seasons and hasn't averaged over 5.5 rebs per game in that time.  He has NEVER averaged over 7 rebs per game in a season. His career fg% is 49.1.  He has averaged over one block per game once in his 7 year career. In a town with centers named Bill Russell, Perk, and Chief I don't consider that a starting center. More like a girl scout. And not a hard working one who sells lots of cookies and gets lots of merit badges.  "We believe Nenad is a starting center in this league" was said by a co owner of the team on WEEI and I almost gagged when I heard it. This kind of lying really really needs to stop.

3. You really think Jermaine O'Neal will be healthy for the playoffs? Because he and Danny Ainge say so?  I know "healthy" is a subjective term. He might be healthy enough for a walk on the beach. He might be healthy enough to eat some spicy wings.  But to contribute in the playoffs? I'll believe it when I see it.  Personally I think Stephen Hawking has a better chance of being "healthy" for the playoffs. I hope I'm wrong.

4. Who do you think they are saying the whole Semih going to Turkey thing to? Who do you think the intended audience is? Every GM in the league? The Cavs? Oh hey!  Danny fleeced you!  The intended audience is clearly us.  In which case I have to ask "Then why was he here in the first place? You didn't look into this?"  When was the last time a Euro came here, won a ring, and then went back to Turkey?  I know my way around East Europe. Most of the people are itching to get here. Not the other way around.

5.  I don't think he's lying in his own head about trading Bird and that's the problem. Besides the whole Monday Morning Quarterbacking thing.  Tom Brady hasn't won a playoff game since 2007 and I say we should shop him and there's gnashing and wailing of teeth. But if Danny trades one of the best defensive centers in the league or if he says he would have traded Bird in his prime it's ok?   What next? The Celts held on too long to Russell?  And I'm the downer?

I get the whole "Danny doesn't owe anybody anything" routine. He doesn't owe Perk a thing. He doesn't owe me a thing. Well guess what? I don't owe him a thing. And if he gets fired then don't let the door slam you on the way out.

He doesn't have to lie. He could just say "I'm taking a huge calculated risk and I really hope it pays off but I could be wrong"

Or he could just pull a Belichek and say "We made the trade we thought we needed and would help us best" and then shut the heeellll up.  

What is wrong with that?

Scariest phrases to hear in the English language

For a business owner or really anyone....I'm from the government. I'm here to help.

For a person with a home by the ocean....Hi. We're from BP. We just found oil off your coast and we think we can get it safely.

For a Boston Celtic that likes playing in Boston .....Danny what do you think of so and so? ......Well I think he's a great player who can probably help us a lot for a long time.

I'm not going to address the rest of your points because I don't want to.

Perk is not worth 9 million a year. I loved him. He brought it night in and night out and had his teammates backs no matter what. But he didn't provide enough on offense or on the boards to warrant that salary. He had every right to demand that salary, because some team was willing to bite and he knew it. But that doesn't mean the Celtics should pay him that. If you get into the market of paying role players more than they are really worth just because someone else would pay them that much you aren't going to win anything ever. Good luck to him in OKC and I'm happy he got paid what he wanted, but I am even happier that the Celtics didn't pay him that.

Well that's great. Maybe some day if you are ever a great player for the Celtics and you have a contract coming up you can pick a really low starting point to let them know you're serious.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Ok here I go to try to clarify.

1  I don't think for one second that Perk didn't think he'd be here next year. Not one. Ok maybe one, but not two. If he did it was because the man had the audacity to think he should be paid fairly.   

2.  Nenad Krstic hasn't averaged over 10ppg in 4 seasons and hasn't averaged over 5.5 rebs per game in that time.  He has NEVER averaged over 7 rebs per game in a season. His career fg% is 49.1.  He has averaged over one block per game once in his 7 year career. In a town with centers named Bill Russell, Perk, and Chief I don't consider that a starting center. More like a girl scout. And not a hard working one who sells lots of cookies and gets lots of merit badges.  "We believe Nenad is a starting center in this league" was said by a co owner of the team on WEEI and I almost gagged when I heard it. This kind of lying really really needs to stop.

3. You really think Jermaine O'Neal will be healthy for the playoffs? Because he and Danny Ainge say so?  I know "healthy" is a subjective term. He might be healthy enough for a walk on the beach. He might be healthy enough to eat some spicy wings.  But to contribute in the playoffs? I'll believe it when I see it.  Personally I think Stephen Hawking has a better chance of being "healthy" for the playoffs. I hope I'm wrong.

4. Who do you think they are saying the whole Semih going to Turkey thing to? Who do you think the intended audience is? Every GM in the league? The Cavs? Oh hey!  Danny fleeced you!  The intended audience is clearly us.  In which case I have to ask "Then why was he here in the first place? You didn't look into this?"  When was the last time a Euro came here, won a ring, and then went back to Turkey?  I know my way around East Europe. Most of the people are itching to get here. Not the other way around.

5.  I don't think he's lying in his own head about trading Bird and that's the problem. Besides the whole Monday Morning Quarterbacking thing.  Tom Brady hasn't won a playoff game since 2007 and I say we should shop him and there's gnashing and wailing of teeth. But if Danny trades one of the best defensive centers in the league or if he says he would have traded Bird in his prime it's ok?   What next? The Celts held on too long to Russell?  And I'm the downer?

I get the whole "Danny doesn't owe anybody anything" routine. He doesn't owe Perk a thing. He doesn't owe me a thing. Well guess what? I don't owe him a thing. And if he gets fired then don't let the door slam you on the way out.

He doesn't have to lie. He could just say "I'm taking a huge calculated risk and I really hope it pays off but I could be wrong"

Or he could just pull a Belichek and say "We made the trade we thought we needed and would help us best" and then shut the heeellll up. 

What is wrong with that?

Scariest phrases to hear in the English language

For a business owner or really anyone....I'm from the government. I'm here to help.

For a person with a home by the ocean....Hi. We're from BP. We just found oil off your coast and we think we can get it safely.

For a Boston Celtic that likes playing in Boston .....Danny what do you think of so and so? ......Well I think he's a great player who can probably help us a lot for a long time.

I'm not going to address the rest of your points because I don't want to.

Perk is not worth 9 million a year. I loved him. He brought it night in and night out and had his teammates backs no matter what. But he didn't provide enough on offense or on the boards to warrant that salary. He had every right to demand that salary, because some team was willing to bite and he knew it. But that doesn't mean the Celtics should pay him that. If you get into the market of paying role players more than they are really worth just because someone else would pay them that much you aren't going to win anything ever. Good luck to him in OKC and I'm happy he got paid what he wanted, but I am even happier that the Celtics didn't pay him that.

Well that's great. Maybe some day if you are ever a great player for the Celtics and you have a contract coming up you can pick a really low starting point to let them know you're serious.

Why do you keep throwing the word "great" around?

[The DarkPassenger]

I disagree about Tom Brady because we have no back up. At least when the Niners got rid of Montana they had Young... same with Packers and Favre-Rodgers.

Okay now to basketball I agree that to think that JO will be healthy through the playoffs is really wishing. After all he was only healthy for 17 games or so this year. Who knows though but I'm not betting on it. I think JO is done.

I don't think Danny is lying really, maybe selling the players but not lying. I believe he did like Erden, Perk, Nate and Harangody and did think they could contribute for the them for a long time but injuries happened and he had a real tough choice to make and it was a huge risk. He offered Perk what he thought Perk was worth and he turned Danny and the C's down... it sucks that Perk left but oh well.

Finally the owner may have said that Krstic is a starting center in the league but never said if he thought that Nenad was a good one or a bad one. I think he's doing just fine though.  

[Eja117]

Ok here I go to try to clarify.

1  I don't think for one second that Perk didn't think he'd be here next year. Not one. Ok maybe one, but not two. If he did it was because the man had the audacity to think he should be paid fairly.   

2.  Nenad Krstic hasn't averaged over 10ppg in 4 seasons and hasn't averaged over 5.5 rebs per game in that time.  He has NEVER averaged over 7 rebs per game in a season. His career fg% is 49.1.  He has averaged over one block per game once in his 7 year career. In a town with centers named Bill Russell, Perk, and Chief I don't consider that a starting center. More like a girl scout. And not a hard working one who sells lots of cookies and gets lots of merit badges.  "We believe Nenad is a starting center in this league" was said by a co owner of the team on WEEI and I almost gagged when I heard it. This kind of lying really really needs to stop.

3. You really think Jermaine O'Neal will be healthy for the playoffs? Because he and Danny Ainge say so?  I know "healthy" is a subjective term. He might be healthy enough for a walk on the beach. He might be healthy enough to eat some spicy wings.  But to contribute in the playoffs? I'll believe it when I see it.  Personally I think Stephen Hawking has a better chance of being "healthy" for the playoffs. I hope I'm wrong.

4. Who do you think they are saying the whole Semih going to Turkey thing to? Who do you think the intended audience is? Every GM in the league? The Cavs? Oh hey!  Danny fleeced you!  The intended audience is clearly us.  In which case I have to ask "Then why was he here in the first place? You didn't look into this?"  When was the last time a Euro came here, won a ring, and then went back to Turkey?  I know my way around East Europe. Most of the people are itching to get here. Not the other way around.

5.  I don't think he's lying in his own head about trading Bird and that's the problem. Besides the whole Monday Morning Quarterbacking thing.  Tom Brady hasn't won a playoff game since 2007 and I say we should shop him and there's gnashing and wailing of teeth. But if Danny trades one of the best defensive centers in the league or if he says he would have traded Bird in his prime it's ok?   What next? The Celts held on too long to Russell?  And I'm the downer?

I get the whole "Danny doesn't owe anybody anything" routine. He doesn't owe Perk a thing. He doesn't owe me a thing. Well guess what? I don't owe him a thing. And if he gets fired then don't let the door slam you on the way out.

He doesn't have to lie. He could just say "I'm taking a huge calculated risk and I really hope it pays off but I could be wrong"

Or he could just pull a Belichek and say "We made the trade we thought we needed and would help us best" and then shut the heeellll up. 

What is wrong with that?

Scariest phrases to hear in the English language

For a business owner or really anyone....I'm from the government. I'm here to help.

For a person with a home by the ocean....Hi. We're from BP. We just found oil off your coast and we think we can get it safely.

For a Boston Celtic that likes playing in Boston .....Danny what do you think of so and so? ......Well I think he's a great player who can probably help us a lot for a long time.

I'm not going to address the rest of your points because I don't want to.

Perk is not worth 9 million a year. I loved him. He brought it night in and night out and had his teammates backs no matter what. But he didn't provide enough on offense or on the boards to warrant that salary. He had every right to demand that salary, because some team was willing to bite and he knew it. But that doesn't mean the Celtics should pay him that. If you get into the market of paying role players more than they are really worth just because someone else would pay them that much you aren't going to win anything ever. Good luck to him in OKC and I'm happy he got paid what he wanted, but I am even happier that the Celtics didn't pay him that.

Well that's great. Maybe some day if you are ever a great player for the Celtics and you have a contract coming up you can pick a really low starting point to let them know you're serious.

Why do you keep throwing the word "great" around?

Because I'm not a liar.  If I were I'd be going around saying things like "Perk is awful" and "Nenad is a staring center in this league"

I mean maybe on a horrible horrible team he is, or a desperate one....but I wouldn't imply he's good.

[Larry for 3]

many of Ainge's post-2008-title moves have been attempts to make up for his major screw-up of not keeping james posey in green. how important does that extra year Posey wanted look now ? good chance we'd be defending champs right now if Posey was still in Boston.

  Posey wasn't worth the money he was getting last year and he's still under contract for more money next year. That signing was a disaster, and Danny was smart to avoid it. It's not a stretch to say that Posey didn't look much (if any) better than Scal when we played them last year.

And I doubt Perk will be worth what he'll be making, either.

  At least Perk is a good risk for it. He's 26, really just entering his prime as a player. Posey was just finishing his. His play was very likely to decline as he aged and his contract was getting bigger every year. The years when he'd be playing the worst he'd be making the most money.

Overpay a big, not very athletic guy coming off ACL surgery with past shoulder problems,  with a 9 mil per 4 year contract with a new CBA on the horizon probally lowering the salray cap and contract levels--  sorry no thanks.  Kendrick Perkins is fast approaching the top of the list of overated Celtics. Very fast, I loved him but people act like the guy is irreplaceable--- Please people get a grip--- Paul Pierce is irreplaceable, KG, Rondo, Ray, but certanily not Perkins.  This guy gets too much love around here because people are so emotionally attached to him.  Glad Danny's not--  and that's his job as GM,  to not be emotionally attached. I'm with Bill Walton on this 1--- I beileve in what Danny's doing, 100%.

[outcry]

Ok here I go to try to clarify.

1  I don't think for one second that Perk didn't think he'd be here next year. Not one. Ok maybe one, but not two. If he did it was because the man had the audacity to think he should be paid fairly.   

2.  Nenad Krstic hasn't averaged over 10ppg in 4 seasons and hasn't averaged over 5.5 rebs per game in that time.  He has NEVER averaged over 7 rebs per game in a season. His career fg% is 49.1.  He has averaged over one block per game once in his 7 year career. In a town with centers named Bill Russell, Perk, and Chief I don't consider that a starting center. More like a girl scout. And not a hard working one who sells lots of cookies and gets lots of merit badges.  "We believe Nenad is a starting center in this league" was said by a co owner of the team on WEEI and I almost gagged when I heard it. This kind of lying really really needs to stop.

3. You really think Jermaine O'Neal will be healthy for the playoffs? Because he and Danny Ainge say so?  I know "healthy" is a subjective term. He might be healthy enough for a walk on the beach. He might be healthy enough to eat some spicy wings.  But to contribute in the playoffs? I'll believe it when I see it.  Personally I think Stephen Hawking has a better chance of being "healthy" for the playoffs. I hope I'm wrong.

4. Who do you think they are saying the whole Semih going to Turkey thing to? Who do you think the intended audience is? Every GM in the league? The Cavs? Oh hey!  Danny fleeced you!  The intended audience is clearly us.  In which case I have to ask "Then why was he here in the first place? You didn't look into this?"  When was the last time a Euro came here, won a ring, and then went back to Turkey?  I know my way around East Europe. Most of the people are itching to get here. Not the other way around.

5.  I don't think he's lying in his own head about trading Bird and that's the problem. Besides the whole Monday Morning Quarterbacking thing.  Tom Brady hasn't won a playoff game since 2007 and I say we should shop him and there's gnashing and wailing of teeth. But if Danny trades one of the best defensive centers in the league or if he says he would have traded Bird in his prime it's ok?   What next? The Celts held on too long to Russell?  And I'm the downer?

I get the whole "Danny doesn't owe anybody anything" routine. He doesn't owe Perk a thing. He doesn't owe me a thing. Well guess what? I don't owe him a thing. And if he gets fired then don't let the door slam you on the way out.

He doesn't have to lie. He could just say "I'm taking a huge calculated risk and I really hope it pays off but I could be wrong"

Or he could just pull a Belichek and say "We made the trade we thought we needed and would help us best" and then shut the heeellll up. 

What is wrong with that?

Scariest phrases to hear in the English language

For a business owner or really anyone....I'm from the government. I'm here to help.

For a person with a home by the ocean....Hi. We're from BP. We just found oil off your coast and we think we can get it safely.

For a Boston Celtic that likes playing in Boston .....Danny what do you think of so and so? ......Well I think he's a great player who can probably help us a lot for a long time.

1. Perk has every right to think he should be paid fairly, but it simply did not fit in with Ainge's thoughts and plans for the future. Danny turned this franchise around so I'm pretty sure he knows what he's doing when it comes to contracts and building a team around your core players. Perkins was not a core player.

2. I love how you conveniently state that Krstic has averaged 10 or more ppg only three seasons as if that's a bad thing or something. You want to check out Perkins' offensive stats since he's been in the league? Krstic is superior to Perkins on the offensive end. I don't think that's really arguable. Also, this is Nenad's 7th season and blew out his knee with the Nets which takes two years to get to 100 percent.

3. Ainge is lying because he said JO will be back by the playoffs? I don't get it.

4. Non issue. You're really making a mountain out of a molehill.

5. Comparing Brady to Perkins? Again, you've lost me. One is a surefire hall of famer and one won't even sniff the hall of fame. You figure that one out. Perkins is NOT the best defensive center in the league. He's just not.

Let me get this straight. You wouldn't care if the person solely responsible for turning this franchise into relevancy again and a powerhouse to be fired for trading a player who most likely reached his ceiling and has injured knees? Um.. okay.

I don't understand what's so wrong about Ainge saying that this team got better for the present and future with the trade. Your emotional attachment to Perkins is getting in the way of rational thinking.

[FatjohnReturns]

Danny.. ..this constant lying thing. It's got to stop. I get that you thought this was the best way to help the team short term and long term. I get that it's your job and you're confident. I get that your values may be different especially since you yourself was traded.

But this lying thing is getting out of hand. It's so out of hand that you have other people lying for you and with you now.

Let's look at the following things said by you and your associates in the past few weeks.

1. We offered an extension to Perk and he didn't take it and we were afraid we'd lose him.


Did you talk to him? How'd he look in those Thunder profile pics? Happy to be with a new team that might give him the money? How does he sound about throwing out his shoes? A guy whose heart wasn't in Boston? A guy who wanted every cent? Did he hold out for every cent in the past? Cmon Danny. Cmon.

2. We think Nenad is a starting center in this league.

In this league? Maybe. On a championship team? On our team? There's lots of starting centers in this league. Start Chris Johnson there tomorrow. Boom. Starting center. Nazr Mahommed? Kwame Brown? Darko? All starting centers I guess.

3. Jermaine O'Neal will be healthy for the playoffs. Danny. Jermaine. The last time we saw this guy he could hardly walk. Boy who cried wolf at best. Either you lie about injuries or the team has medical staff issues.

4. Tommy says Semih wants to go back to Turkey. Highly convenient. Way to keep a tight lid on that till juuuusssssttt the right time, and the time just happens to be damage control time and we don't trust you any more so you get Tommy to say it for you. Oh Danny. Danny Danny Danny.

5. You would have traded Bird before he got old. Actually I rather believe you on this. That's the problem. I know you think it would have been great to trade him for Clyde Drexler, Sam Bowie and a bag of peanuts in 1988 and that's the problem. Hey Danny. Do me a favor ok? Try not to trade Lucky for the Suns Gorilla and a draft pick, and try not to trade Red's statue and Bill's new medal he got from Obama for 40 pieces of silver ok? If someone calls you offering a great deal for Paul Pierce involving a young stater and a Euro just hang up. Nobody will think less of you. It's ok. Just let it go.



Hey Danny. I know you were traded son. I know you wanted to be here. It's not your fault Danny. It's not your fault.



 No look at me. It's not your fault.




It's not your fault son.

Sorry I couldnt muster the desire to read thru all 8 pages of this thread.

Danny cant always be 100% truthful about everything. He is the General Manager. There are negoiation going on behind the scences.

Your criticism has no basis in reality. Danny is doing a great job.
Green is going to be a all-star for this team in the future.

[Eja117]

I'm not comparing Perk to Brady.

If the Pats trade Brady for Chad Henne and Vonte Davis next week and then Bob Kraft says "We think Chad Henne is a starter in this league" I'll be like "What a big huge liar".

Then the apologists will come out of the woodwork and say "He knows what he's doing. Why do you have such an emotional attachment to Brady? Weren't you the one who said we should trade him"?

Why do you think Nenad is a starter in this league?  Presumably a good one too, because I don't think he wanted us to think he was saying "We think Nenad is a bad stater in this league"

Why do you think Jermaine will be healthy for the playoffs?

One week before the trade did you think Semih was going to be leaving? What changed to make you think this?

One week before the trade did you think Perk was itching to be out of here?  Do you really think Perk was going to try to get every cent he could in free agency?  What makes you think this?

Do you really think it would have been responsible for a GM to trade Bird in 1988?

I guess you believe all this. I want to know why.

[GreenFaith1819]

So eja117 - do you believe that Boston should've paid Perk what OKC paid him?

[Eja117]

So eja117 - do you believe that Boston should've paid Perk what OKC paid him?

No. I don't think it would have taken that much.

I think he and his agent were.....lying  

[GreenFaith1819]

So eja117 - do you believe that Boston should've paid Perk what OKC paid him?

No. I don't think it would have taken that much.

I think he and his agent were.....lying  

So how much do you think it would've taken to keep Perk in Boston - if money was the issue?