What is Going on with Big Baby's jumper?!

[droponov]

It's tougher for Glen Davis to do that this year because he's not playing alongside Rasheed Wallace so much. That's what allowed him to play closer to the bastket last season and be more efficient.

This year he's been playing alongside Garnett (who operates in and out), Shaq and Erden (who need to be close to the basket). So Davis is forced to come outside more to provide proper spacing.

Not entirely his fault.

[ballin]

There are people here who wished that BBD stop taking outside shots and rely on his low post play.

Their wish was granted. Now BBD is offsync IMHO

What low post play?  He relied on that last year and it resulted in him getting some embarrassing number like 25% of his shots blocked (pretty sure he had the most blocked attempts in the league by far).  He's improved on that this year but I believe he's also taking a much larger percentage of his shots away from the basket.

Indeed. I remember seeing that stat as well, and as I recall he WAS leading the league in % of his shots blocked. Ugh.

I really don't know what Big Baby brings to the table if he's not taking charges, relative to the average power forward at least.

[CelticG1]

It's tougher for Glen Davis to do that this year because he's not playing alongside Rasheed Wallace so much. That's what allowed him to play closer to the bastket last season and be more efficient.

This year he's been playing alongside Garnett (who operates in and out), Shaq and Erden (who need to be close to the basket). So Davis is forced to come outside more to provide proper spacing.

Not entirely his fault.

I think most people would agree that Baby was a lot more INefficient last year becaseu of Rasheed Wallace. His low post play was abysmal last year

[CelticG1]

There are people here who wished that BBD stop taking outside shots and rely on his low post play.

Their wish was granted. Now BBD is offsync IMHO

What low post play?  He relied on that last year and it resulted in him getting some embarrassing number like 25% of his shots blocked (pretty sure he had the most blocked attempts in the league by far).  He's improved on that this year but I believe he's also taking a much larger percentage of his shots away from the basket.

That was abysmal last year. I do think that he has improved greatly with that and not just because he is taking more outside shots. I think it's just something he has corrected whether it's using a different method to get the shot up (creating more contact with the defender while going up) or smarter basketball decisions (passing the ball out of those situations)

[droponov]

It's tougher for Glen Davis to do that this year because he's not playing alongside Rasheed Wallace so much. That's what allowed him to play closer to the bastket last season and be more efficient.

This year he's been playing alongside Garnett (who operates in and out), Shaq and Erden (who need to be close to the basket). So Davis is forced to come outside more to provide proper spacing.

Not entirely his fault.

I think most people would agree that Baby was a lot more INefficient last year becaseu of Rasheed Wallace. His low post play was abysmal last year

Most people would be dramatically wrong. Even last year he was still clearly more efficient in the post than taking jumpers. This season the gap is dramatic. If he was able to replicate his shot-selection from last season, he'd be a very efficient player.

[snively]

I thought this was revealing: according to Hoopdata, of the 20 rotation PFs (which I defined as playing 10+ mpg in 10+ games) leading the league in per-minute shot attempts from 16-23 feet, only 2 are shooting under 40%: Baby (36% on 4.5 attempts per game) and Andray Blatche (29% on 4.2 attempts per game).  At 21 and also under 40% is DeMarcus Cousins (36% on 3.1 attempts per game). 

Not very good company in terms of shot selection there Baby.

[snively]

It's tougher for Glen Davis to do that this year because he's not playing alongside Rasheed Wallace so much. That's what allowed him to play closer to the bastket last season and be more efficient.

This year he's been playing alongside Garnett (who operates in and out), Shaq and Erden (who need to be close to the basket). So Davis is forced to come outside more to provide proper spacing.

Not entirely his fault.

I think most people would agree that Baby was a lot more INefficient last year becaseu of Rasheed Wallace. His low post play was abysmal last year

Most people would be dramatically wrong. Even last year he was still clearly more efficient in the post than taking jumpers. This difference the gap is dramatic. If he was able to replicate his shot-selection from last season, he'd be a very efficient player.

His TS% is virtually identical to last year's. He's the same inefficient scorer he was last year, he's just taking a bunch more shots this year.

[droponov]

It's tougher for Glen Davis to do that this year because he's not playing alongside Rasheed Wallace so much. That's what allowed him to play closer to the bastket last season and be more efficient.

This year he's been playing alongside Garnett (who operates in and out), Shaq and Erden (who need to be close to the basket). So Davis is forced to come outside more to provide proper spacing.

Not entirely his fault.

I think most people would agree that Baby was a lot more INefficient last year becaseu of Rasheed Wallace. His low post play was abysmal last year

Most people would be dramatically wrong. Even last year he was still clearly more efficient in the post than taking jumpers. This difference the gap is dramatic. If he was able to replicate his shot-selection from last season, he'd be a very efficient player.

His TS% is virtually identical to last year's. He's the same inefficient scorer he was last year, he's just taking a bunch more shots this year.

So?

If he was able to replicate his shot-selection from last season, he'd be much more efficient. He improved as a finisher and a shooter. His shot-selection is worse, in a large part due to the reasons I explained above.

[LilRip]

he can make them pretty consistently from around 15-18 ft, but recently he's been taking a lot of 2's that are a step or two beyond that range.

[BASS_THUMPER]

when he does make em it's always been luck..he has never had a jumper

[snively]

It's tougher for Glen Davis to do that this year because he's not playing alongside Rasheed Wallace so much. That's what allowed him to play closer to the bastket last season and be more efficient.

This year he's been playing alongside Garnett (who operates in and out), Shaq and Erden (who need to be close to the basket). So Davis is forced to come outside more to provide proper spacing.

Not entirely his fault.

I think most people would agree that Baby was a lot more INefficient last year becaseu of Rasheed Wallace. His low post play was abysmal last year

Most people would be dramatically wrong. Even last year he was still clearly more efficient in the post than taking jumpers. This difference the gap is dramatic. If he was able to replicate his shot-selection from last season, he'd be a very efficient player.

His TS% is virtually identical to last year's. He's the same inefficient scorer he was last year, he's just taking a bunch more shots this year.

So?

If he was able to replicate his shot-selection from last season, he'd be much more efficient. He improved as a finisher and a shooter. His shot-selection is worse, in a large part due to the reasons I explained above.

I haven't seen the evidence.  If anything, his improved finishing ability is mostly a consequence of his improved decision making on shots in the paint.  There just aren't that many high % shots inside available to a guy like him.

[droponov]

It's tougher for Glen Davis to do that this year because he's not playing alongside Rasheed Wallace so much. That's what allowed him to play closer to the bastket last season and be more efficient.

This year he's been playing alongside Garnett (who operates in and out), Shaq and Erden (who need to be close to the basket). So Davis is forced to come outside more to provide proper spacing.

Not entirely his fault.

I think most people would agree that Baby was a lot more INefficient last year becaseu of Rasheed Wallace. His low post play was abysmal last year

Most people would be dramatically wrong. Even last year he was still clearly more efficient in the post than taking jumpers. This difference the gap is dramatic. If he was able to replicate his shot-selection from last season, he'd be a very efficient player.

His TS% is virtually identical to last year's. He's the same inefficient scorer he was last year, he's just taking a bunch more shots this year.

So?

If he was able to replicate his shot-selection from last season, he'd be much more efficient. He improved as a finisher and a shooter. His shot-selection is worse, in a large part due to the reasons I explained above.

I haven't seen the evidence.  If anything, his improved finishing ability is mostly a consequence of his improved decision making on shots in the paint.  There just aren't that many high % shots inside available to a guy like him.

He's taking more 0.6 shots at the rim per game (minus 1.7 per 40 minutes) and his FG% in those shots climbed from 51.8% to 65.7% while having a smaller percentage of shots assisted. He's a more patient and smarter finisher now. He's also hitting jumpers at a higher rate from every spot on the floor even though he's taking more jump-shots - so his shooting accuracy improved in spite of a larger volume of shots.

The reason why his efficiency is the same as last season is because he's taking almost 3 times more jumpers from 16-23ft away - his least efficient shot. And to a lesser extent because he's drawing less shooting fouls. Basically because he's forced to drift more to the perimeter considering the kind of guy he's playing along now.

[Spilling Green Dye]

He should go back into shooting by the rim b/c he's gotten better at finishing around the hoop.  He's actually been awkwardly (to watch) productive near the hoop. 

[ballin]

He should go back into shooting by the rim b/c he's gotten better at finishing around the hoop.  He's actually been awkwardly (to watch) productive near the hoop. 

I'm a Big Baby hater but I'll admit that somehow he's figured out how to avoid getting his shot blocked, so he actually makes himself useful when he goes hard to the rim. but if he isn't doing enough of that (and he's not) then he's useless...

terrible defense for a power forward
terrible rebounding for a power forward
horrible scoring for a power forward (inefficient)

[mmbaby]

Yeah, he has a couple of terrible games and now he's worthless and has been worthless ever since he joined the Celtics. That's why Doc plays him so much.

I read yesterday somewhere that he's played the most minutes this season off the bench than any other nba player. Not that that has any meaning, I don't know.

It's pretty much the same with any player. He's loved when he's doing well, hated when he's not.

I like your analysis, droponov, TP. GO BIG BABY and practice shooting those jumpers. You'll get your mojo back.