If the Heat get Murphy and Bibby. It's Over.

[Who]

Neither guy is that big of a difference maker.

Bibby is more likely to hurt Miami than help him due to his abysmal defense and the likelihood of stealing minutes away from a more capable player in Mario Chalmers.

Troy Murphy is a nice offensive player and solid rebounder but he too is an awful defensive player which limits his value. Also, the vast majority of his rebounds are defensive boards -- below average offensive rebounder -- several of which (def boards) he takes away from his teammates. He's not as impactful a rebounder as his numbers suggest at first glance.

Troy Murphy is one of those guys who's stat line is a lot more impressive than his actual impact on his team.

That is not to say Murphy won't help Miami, he will, but he won't be that large of a difference maker. He is fairly equal, in overall impact, to a Big Z or Dampier, just with a different skill-set. He'll supply some extra depth but he won't provide a drastic upgrade.

[Jon]

Yeah.  And while you can attribute Bibby and Murphy being bought out partially to the fact that their new teams were rebuilding, if either was really that good, their respective teams wouldn't have given them up. 

[slamtheking]

Sadly, I think that would be enough to get out of the East.

Both of them would be highly motivated and would provide just enough help to the two glaring weaknesses the Heat have.

I would love to get Brewer either way. He would be great going forward and a fantastic piece for rebuilding.

Hardly. 

It certainly helps the Heat where they're weakest but they don't put them over the top by any means.  What will determine the East will be the health of the C's and nothing else.  If the C's are healthy, they win the title, even after the trades.

[wdleehi]

A healthy Boston team (meaning the two Cs) is still more then enough to win a title.




I just find it funny when a player might sign with us, he is a great offensive fit.  When they join the Heat, they are a defensive liability. 

[Celtics4ever]

I agree, Wdleehi.  Especially given the choke factor and MIA's sub record against winning teams.  They are 14-15 vs. good teams.  They may not even make it out the first round as most playoff teams will have decent records as Kornheiser said last night on PTI.

[Jesus Shuttlesworth #20]

I truly enjoy when other team's fans start ridiculous threads like this. It just may be the best part of Celticsblog.

[nba is the worst]

I truly enjoy when other team's fans start ridiculous threads like this. It just may be the best part of Celticsblog.

I'm curious why you would say the OP is a fan of another team.

To the OP, I think both players would be upgades for the heatles, but vs good teams, not difference makers in the playoffs.

[celticinorlando]

i am curious to see if Danny can find anyone after murphy and brewer that are worth picking up off the scrap heap. after those 2 guys...pickings are very slim

[Finkelskyhook]

It really doesn't matter who the messiah, Larry, and Curly surround themselves with.  They're essentially playing 3 on 5. 

That's why the messiah will always. shine in the regular season and shrink in the postseason.

[Chris]

I don't think Murphy gives them much more than they already have.  Bibby, I am not sure about, because he has skills that could help them, but has looked cooked for years.  If Bibby can be rejuvenated, he will help, but I don't think Murphy would be much more than depth for them.

[nba is the worst]

I don't think Murphy gives them much more than they already have.  Bibby, I am not sure about, because he has skills that could help them, but has looked cooked for years.  If Bibby can be rejuvenated, he will help, but I don't think Murphy would be much more than depth for them.

Bibby is cooked - but has a good bball IQ, which is sorely lacking on the team.

Since they seem to not want to give Wade official PG duties, I think Bibby could help significantly (but he's no Billups)...

[wdleehi]

Against Boston in the playoffs, is he tall enough to defend Ray? 



Because I can see Miami putting Wade on  Rondo since he might be the only guard they have capable of almost staying in front of Rondo.

[NervousPervis]

I guess the question becomes, if we don't get Murphy or Brewer for that matter, who are they going to find to fill out the rest of the roster?... Powe, with 3 bad knees? Three D-league guys isn't gonna cut it...

[CelticG1]

Against Boston in the playoffs, is he tall enough to defend Ray? 



Because I can see Miami putting Wade on  Rondo since he might be the only guard they have capable of almost staying in front of Rondo.

Who cares about height. Theres no way Bibby would be able to chase Ray around and fight through screens. Wade has had a tough enough time with Ray this season I don't see how this would be possible.

[acieEarl]

I wouldn't say it's over but Danny's master plan would be blowing up in his face. He's got the roster room but no one wants to come over to play.

Shoulda held on to Erden. Not sure the logic to trading him for a bag of donuts.