We probably won't keep Green or Nenad so what was the point?

[Roy H.]

Sometimes I register at other NBA forums if I have something to say, or whatever. Anyways, just reading some opinions on this trade. I'm a Thunder fan from OK. Now you guys probably haven't seen much of Nenad, but you might be surprised in what he brings to the table. Yeah he runs the floor like a doofus and he has a horrendous haircut, but he can fill it up from 18 feet.  Very sweet stroke and when he's on he's on. Great option off the pick and pop. Pretty craft around the rim too.  He lacks athleticism, but I gotta say there's been many many times where he's gone out there like a guy who just drank the blood of a rabid wolf. Very capable center at times.  I mean hell, 16 and 11 in 22 minutes against Dwight Howard earlier this season. Much different player than Perkins obviously, but you might find him to be somewhat refreshing offensively out of a center. He'll stretch the floor, I can say that. DH wouldn't step out on him and he made him pay.  

Green...well Green is a SF, plain and simple...and I think a [dang] good one too.  Green's a strong dude. Undersized at the 4, but he'll overpower most guys at the 3. Posting Green up down low on a usually undersized defender at the 3 is a very good thing for him.  Green is now the most athletic guy on the Boston roster. He can get it done...just not at the 4. I think he'll thrive at the 3.

Thanks for the perspective.  My main concerns about Krstic are his defense and his rebounding, which are both from my understanding and observation pretty atrocious.  Can you shed any light on that?  Is there a reason his rebound rate is so low?  Is he being used properly on the defensive end?  How are his instincts?

[hpantazo]

Sometimes I register at other NBA forums if I have something to say, or whatever. Anyways, just reading some opinions on this trade. I'm a Thunder fan from OK. Now you guys probably haven't seen much of Nenad, but you might be surprised in what he brings to the table. Yeah he runs the floor like a doofus and he has a horrendous haircut, but he can fill it up from 18 feet.  Very sweet stroke and when he's on he's on. Great option off the pick and pop. Pretty craft around the rim too.  He lacks athleticism, but I gotta say there's been many many times where he's gone out there like a guy who just drank the blood of a rabid wolf. Very capable center at times.  I mean hell, 16 and 11 in 22 minutes against Dwight Howard earlier this season. Much different player than Perkins obviously, but you might find him to be somewhat refreshing offensively out of a center. He'll stretch the floor, I can say that. DH wouldn't step out on him and he made him pay.  

Green...well Green is a SF, plain and simple...and I think a [dang] good one too.  Green's a strong dude. Undersized at the 4, but he'll overpower most guys at the 3. Posting Green up down low on a usually undersized defender at the 3 is a very good thing for him.  Green is now the most athletic guy on the Boston roster. He can get it done...just not at the 4. I think he'll thrive at the 3.

thanks for your thoughts on the new guys, TP. What do you think about getting Perk?

[hpantazo]

Why do people think we'll get Howard? I've not seen him say anything about wanting to come to Boston. Nothing. And we didn't need to trade Perk to get him in the first place.

And even if we do get him I still don't think it would be enough to win it all. With all our old players gone and Miami probably getting a bench by that time I just don't see it happening.


I don't care about the future. I only care about this year. And I'm not sold that we have a shot at it now.

I need to walk away for a day or two. I'm rather mad about this trade. I think it was really bad. I'm not happy at all.

because the options for where Howard can go aren't going to be many. We are likely to be the best choice if he wants to win and get paid.

[thunderfan]

Ah...I don't think atrocious is all that fair of a description. He's smart. He positions himself well.  You know, the guy shows flashes. He really does. Maybe a new setting will serve him well, I don't know. His athleticism is lacking, but you know a week or two back he got a feed driving down the lane and did a dunk that I had to do a double take on. Then the way he played DH against Orlando back in Jan in the first quarter.  He does crap like that and you say..is that Nenad out there? That bothers me. When a guy does stuff like that you think: why doesn't he do that all the time?  He's not a "true" center. He doesn't play with a chip on his shoulder. I do not think he's bad in the paint defensively. I think someone needs to give him a swift kick in the ass. He's the elder on OKC's roster. He's worth having, no doubt. Is he a starting center? No. But he provides a team with some flexibility and a different look at center, when needed.

[timepiece33]

I could see them offering Green the money they offered Perkins.

[birdwatcher]

I don't think Danny's moves today had anything to do with Dwight Howard--at all. Howard is a pipe dream that was created on this blog and nowhere else. I don't think anyone outside of this blog has even considered Howard coming to Boston, including Dwight. He's a great player that needs other complimentary players around him, or he would have won multiple championships in Orlando by now. For his price tag, who could we put around him that is any better than who is on the Magic now? I for one wish that this Howard talk goes away at least until the summer, when the league is locked out and we have nothing else to talk about. Boston.com  chat guys--remember the summer of Gin Baker?? That's all we talked about and it was the worst!! I hate to say it, but I predict another off season like that one this summer...ugh

[thunderfan]

Perkins is a great addition to OKC. Hard nosed, great defense presence inside. See we've started a SF at PF (Green) and then Krstic. So Green gets abused at the 4, Nenad has to help weak side..it just breaks down a lot with them.  Perkins allows Ibaka to thrive at his natural position (4) and forces Brooks to probably start Harden to compensate for missing offense from Green and Krstic.  I think Perkins and Ibaka could be a nightmare for opponents down low. Perkins is not that great offensively to my knowledge, but we can make up for that.  I'm rooting for Krstic and Green. I hope some of those hardasses you guys have there in Boston will light a fire under Krstic. One thing Krstic is is a smart player. Brooks doesn't start him for no reason. He does the right things 99% of the time.

[Onslaught]

I hate to say it, but I predict another off season like that one this summer...ugh

No, last season we made it to the Finals. Don't see us doing that this year.

[CoachBo]

Good take, Thunder. We brought Green in for relief minutes for Pierce, and to a lesser extent, Garnett. He'll be more productive offensively because we run a ball movement offense, not the iso stuff Scott runs. The real benefit from him will come in the playoffs, both in his improved production and a significantly fresher Pierce and Garnett.

We'll have to see if he'll give the effort defensively and on the boards Boston will demand. I suspect he will - he certainly has the skillset for it.

As for Nenad, he's six fouls, basically.

[thunderfan]

Ah, man, 6 fouls? lol Come on. You think Brooks would start a guy like that on a team as good as OKC? I'm not saying play the guy 30 minutes, but he's a guy most coaches would want on a roster. He can stroke it, I'm telling you.

Green..I've cursed the guy all year basically, as much as I like him. Mainly for his insistance on shooting 3 pointers at a high rate when he's been at about 28% all year..which is odd cuz he shot like 39% two years ago.  I guess he figures if he keeps shooting them he'll return to form, I don't know. He's a very strong 3 though. His advantage there is size and strength. I think you put him at the 3 and let him exploit that advantage down low.

[snively]

wrong thread!

[Roy H.]

Ah...I don't think atrocious is all that fair of a description. He's smart. He positions himself well.

Krstic is tied for 51st among 60 centers in terms of rebounding percentage this year.  (For the record, Perk was 6th this year.)

Thanks for the perspective otherwise.  What you're describing is basically what I'm envisioning:  a guy who is a competent backup / very good third-string center.

[Andy Jick]

Ah...I don't think atrocious is all that fair of a description. He's smart. He positions himself well.

Krstic is tied for 51st among 60 centers in terms of rebounding percentage this year.  (For the record, Perk was 6th this year.)

Thanks for the perspective otherwise.  What you're describing is basically what I'm envisioning:  a guy who is a competent backup / very good third-string center.

Wonder if that ever happened to Chuck Nevitt as well...

[barefacedmonk]

Green..I've cursed the guy all year basically, as much as I like him. Mainly for his insistance on shooting 3 pointers at a high rate when he's been at about 28%

We had a player like that last year...Rasheed Wallace.

[winsomme]

Sometimes I register at other NBA forums if I have something to say, or whatever. Anyways, just reading some opinions on this trade. I'm a Thunder fan from OK. Now you guys probably haven't seen much of Nenad, but you might be surprised in what he brings to the table. Yeah he runs the floor like a doofus and he has a horrendous haircut, but he can fill it up from 18 feet.  Very sweet stroke and when he's on he's on. Great option off the pick and pop. Pretty craft around the rim too.  He lacks athleticism, but I gotta say there's been many many times where he's gone out there like a guy who just drank the blood of a rabid wolf. Very capable center at times.  I mean hell, 16 and 11 in 22 minutes against Dwight Howard earlier this season. Much different player than Perkins obviously, but you might find him to be somewhat refreshing offensively out of a center. He'll stretch the floor, I can say that. DH wouldn't step out on him and he made him pay.  

Green...well Green is a SF, plain and simple...and I think a [dang] good one too.  Green's a strong dude. Undersized at the 4, but he'll overpower most guys at the 3. Posting Green up down low on a usually undersized defender at the 3 is a very good thing for him.  Green is now the most athletic guy on the Boston roster. He can get it done...just not at the 4. I think he'll thrive at the 3.

Thanks for the perspective.  My main concerns about Krstic are his defense and his rebounding, which are both from my understanding and observation pretty atrocious.  Can you shed any light on that?  Is there a reason his rebound rate is so low?  Is he being used properly on the defensive end?  How are his instincts?

Kristic is invisible on the court. If he was at all able to play he would have been better for OKC.

Green is clearly a good player, but he was very disappointing in the playoffs last year. in fact, if he had shown up better, OKC might have knocked off the Lakers...