What is with all the KG hatred?

[barefacedmonk]

Eja117, you're a jerk...but you're our jerk. So, I will ignore all your KG hate now.

[Eja117]

Eja117, you're a jerk...but you're our jerk. So, I will ignore all your KG hate now.

Fair enough. I strive to please

[barefacedmonk]

Eja117, you're a jerk...but you're our jerk. So, I will ignore all your KG hate now.

Fair enough. I strive to please

I didn't really mean that you're a jerk...it just sounded funny in my head (coz of the article that was on the main page). You're cool when you're not hating on KG.

[barefacedmonk]

Recommended fanpost for every KG fan...very good read.

http://www.celticsblog.com/2011/2/8/1980277/why-i-am-a-kg-fan

[Bahku]

Recommended fanpost for every KG fan...very good read.

http://www.celticsblog.com/2011/2/8/1980277/why-i-am-a-kg-fan

TP. I've had enough of the KG-bashing ... he's an intense player, and doesn't behave any "chippier" than what I've seen from previous Celtic stars, (less so, in many instances). The guy embodies Celtic Pride, hard-work, and determination, and we should be singing his praises, not jumping on the "Bash-of-the-Week" bandwagon.

I won't get into the details of this whole thing, cuz for anyone who's ever played this game, getting bent out of shape over a hand-check to the mid-region, (something that happens at least a dozen times in every b-ball game that's ever been played), is just plain absurd.

Time to end the name-calling ... especially one of our own who gave 110% to bring us our first championship in over twenty years. It's not the right example to set, and not the way to thank an amazing guy who has brought us so much to cheer about of late.

What would Red do? Not this, I'm sure.

[mr. kurtz]

ok that's it.
KG IS OUR TEAM SOUL & IDENTITY.
i can't believe even c's fans are calling him out! that's so lame...
that's the way he plays the game and i admire and respect that & i would respect that if he would played for other team as well, for that matter.
he wants to win and he'll do anything needed to acomplish that. what more can you ask from your star player?!

[garz]

You know this hatred is going to come from other teams, and fans from other teams, but it's disappointing to see it coming from Celtics fans. Don't be so easily manipulated by the media's hyperbole. And if you are genuinely offended by KG's antics, then maybe sports are not for you. This stuff happens in any competitive environment, and many other players become far more unhinged, and dish out far worse than KG. Look at Howard who grabs Celtics players by the face and neck while they are in mid-air, and throws them to the ground, never gets a flagrant, and Celtics players don't whine and moan about it, because they are tough dudes and understand what it takes to win.

Also I'm pretty sure most championship teams pull at least some dirty stuff to get there. That's just the way it is and everybody knows it. The whole team supports the player who does the dirty stuff, so if you hate the player, you have to hate the team as well.

People who already hate the Celtics and KG are going to look for any ammunition they can use, but we should not be influenced by their masked hatred.

[wiley]

You know this hatred is going to come from other teams, and fans from other teams, but it's disappointing to see it coming from Celtics fans. Don't be so easily manipulated by the media's hyperbole. And if you are genuinely offended by KG's antics, then maybe sports are not for you. This stuff happens in any competitive environment, and many other players become far more unhinged, and dish out far worse than KG. Look at Howard who grabs Celtics players by the face and neck while they are in mid-air, and throws them to the ground, never gets a flagrant, and Celtics players don't **** and moan about it, because they are tough dudes.

People who already hate the Celtics and KG are going to look for any ammunition they can use, but we should not be influenced by their masked hatred.

TP

[Celtics4ever]

Certain guys get off being the bad guy or criticized.  I think KG is one of them.  He uses it at fuel.  Look how he put it to Gasol this year when he was ripped for playing hurt and soft last year.   Could all these antics be little more than him fueling the tank.  There is a lot to be said for an Us vs. the World team attitude.   It works.

[angryguy77]

So what if he's the leagues biggest jerk(i dont think so)? At least he's on our team. How many years have we lost to the "jerks" around the league and hated them? It's nice to win and have the guy everyone hates for once.

I don't understand why teams/players from the 80's(im looking at your detroit) are thought of as so tough and gritty, but KG is just a punk. Just becuase it was a different era does'nt mean it should be ok(not saying 80's style wasnt btw) Whats the difference in giving a hard fould to a driving pg to send a message than what KG does? Mchale clothsline anyone?
Rodman kicked a cameraman in the groin, but I only hear about how good he was when his name comes up.



This shouldn't be an issue, but sadly our society has been infused with so much estrogen that any sort of rough play/talk is looked down upon.
The nba is filled with a bunch of manginas who can't take a little rough talk. Maybe they are in the wrong sport, chess might be a better fit for the Chalrie V's etc. I'm tired of the whining and crying from these losers.




If they want KG to stop, then beat him and his team. Until then, they need man-up and play.

[housecall]

So what if he's the leagues biggest jerk(i dont think so)? At least he's on our team. How many years have we lost to the "jerks" around the league and hated them? It's nice to win and have the guy everyone hates for once.

I don't understand why teams/players from the 80's(im looking at your detroit) are thought of as so tough and gritty, but KG is just a punk. Just becuase it was a different era does'nt mean it should be ok(not saying 80's style wasnt btw) Whats the difference in giving a hard fould to a driving pg to send a message than what KG does? Mchale clothsline anyone?
Rodman kicked a cameraman in the groin, but I only hear about how good he was when his name comes up.



This shouldn't be an issue, but sadly our society has been infused with so much estrogen that any sort of rough play/talk is looked down upon.
The nba is filled with a bunch of manginas who can't take a little rough talk. Maybe they are in the wrong sport, chess might be a better fit for the Chalrie V's etc. I'm tired of the whining and crying from these losers.




If they want KG to stop, then beat him and his team. Until then, they need man-up and play.

TP I agree with all you stated...what about Reggie Miller signature kick while shooting is viewed as savvy by most but i saw it as dirty but he's given a pass.

[Moranis]

KG is a great complimentary player (maybe the best ever in that regard), but he is not a #1 guy and never has been.  He always has needed players around with him the killer instinct and stones to hit the big shot.  He got that with Spree and Co. in Minny and now has it with Pierce and Allen in Boston.

I think that's unfair, his offensive game hasn't aged as well so now he needs Pierce/Allen/Rondo. But early in his career he was a dynamic number one offensive option. Excellent shooting, passing, face up, and post game.

Plus I'll add that every time he's had a decent team around him he went far in the playoffs, they put a lot of garbage around him.

He didn't get out of the first round 1 time in 7 seasons.  That says all you really need to know.

It says all you really need to know about the crap team that was put around him. Minny has no idea how to construct a team around its star players.

I am so tired of this one. Are you telling me if you trade Tim Duncan's roster for KG's that KG wins 4 rings and Duncan doesn't get out of the first round 7 times? How about Dirk who is so obviously worse?  How about even Webber for that matter? How about even Shawn Kemp for that matter.   KG didn't get out of the first round for most of a decade so it's gotta be everyone else's fault. It can't possibly be his.

As I mentioned in another post, the 7 times out in the first round argument doesn't add up to anything.  How do you know he wasn't carrying team's worse than this year's Cleveland squad as far as they could possibly be carried?

because you can look at the rosters of those two teams and figure it out.  

I like KG, don't mind his intensity at all, and actually don't care he is a dirty player.  I just don't think he is a #1 guy.  He is a great complimentary player, but you aren't winning a championship if you have to rely on KG to do the biggest work load.  He just doesn't have it in him.

[wiley]

KG is a great complimentary player (maybe the best ever in that regard), but he is not a #1 guy and never has been.  He always has needed players around with him the killer instinct and stones to hit the big shot.  He got that with Spree and Co. in Minny and now has it with Pierce and Allen in Boston.

I think that's unfair, his offensive game hasn't aged as well so now he needs Pierce/Allen/Rondo. But early in his career he was a dynamic number one offensive option. Excellent shooting, passing, face up, and post game.

Plus I'll add that every time he's had a decent team around him he went far in the playoffs, they put a lot of garbage around him.

He didn't get out of the first round 1 time in 7 seasons.  That says all you really need to know.

It says all you really need to know about the crap team that was put around him. Minny has no idea how to construct a team around its star players.

I am so tired of this one. Are you telling me if you trade Tim Duncan's roster for KG's that KG wins 4 rings and Duncan doesn't get out of the first round 7 times? How about Dirk who is so obviously worse?  How about even Webber for that matter? How about even Shawn Kemp for that matter.   KG didn't get out of the first round for most of a decade so it's gotta be everyone else's fault. It can't possibly be his.

As I mentioned in another post, the 7 times out in the first round argument doesn't add up to anything.  How do you know he wasn't carrying team's worse than this year's Cleveland squad as far as they could possibly be carried?

because you can look at the rosters of those two teams and figure it out.  

I like KG, don't mind his intensity at all, and actually don't care he is a dirty player.  I just don't think he is a #1 guy.  He is a great complimentary player, but you aren't winning a championship if you have to rely on KG to do the biggest work load.  He just doesn't have it in him.

Well, he's our best defender and the only reason the Celtics were able to turn around from one year to the next defensively.  If that's not clear I don't know what to tell you...

Next, as Fafnir stated, he was the leading scorer in the playoffs during our championship run, including leading scorer in the fourth quarter.

But, if you think he stunk it up in the 2008/2009 finals, so be it.  I disagree and so do the numbers and the Celtics ability to play elite level defense.....

[Moranis]

KG is a great complimentary player (maybe the best ever in that regard), but he is not a #1 guy and never has been.  He always has needed players around with him the killer instinct and stones to hit the big shot.  He got that with Spree and Co. in Minny and now has it with Pierce and Allen in Boston.

I think that's unfair, his offensive game hasn't aged as well so now he needs Pierce/Allen/Rondo. But early in his career he was a dynamic number one offensive option. Excellent shooting, passing, face up, and post game.

Plus I'll add that every time he's had a decent team around him he went far in the playoffs, they put a lot of garbage around him.

He didn't get out of the first round 1 time in 7 seasons.  That says all you really need to know.

It says all you really need to know about the crap team that was put around him. Minny has no idea how to construct a team around its star players.

I am so tired of this one. Are you telling me if you trade Tim Duncan's roster for KG's that KG wins 4 rings and Duncan doesn't get out of the first round 7 times? How about Dirk who is so obviously worse?  How about even Webber for that matter? How about even Shawn Kemp for that matter.   KG didn't get out of the first round for most of a decade so it's gotta be everyone else's fault. It can't possibly be his.

As I mentioned in another post, the 7 times out in the first round argument doesn't add up to anything.  How do you know he wasn't carrying team's worse than this year's Cleveland squad as far as they could possibly be carried?

because you can look at the rosters of those two teams and figure it out.  

I like KG, don't mind his intensity at all, and actually don't care he is a dirty player.  I just don't think he is a #1 guy.  He is a great complimentary player, but you aren't winning a championship if you have to rely on KG to do the biggest work load.  He just doesn't have it in him.

Well, he's our best defender and the only reason the Celtics were able to turn around from one year to the next defensively.  If that's not clear I don't know what to tell you...

Next, as Fafnir stated, he was the leading scorer in the playoffs during our championship run, including leading scorer in the fourth quarter.

But, if you think he stunk it up in the 2008/2009 finals, so be it.  I disagree and so do the numbers and the Celtics ability to play elite level defense.....

When did I say he stunk up the joint.  I mean seriously, if you are going to comment at least understand the point before commenting.

[Fafnir]

because you can look at the rosters of those two teams and figure it out.  

I like KG, don't mind his intensity at all, and actually don't care he is a dirty player.  I just don't think he is a #1 guy.  He is a great complimentary player, but you aren't winning a championship if you have to rely on KG to do the biggest work load.  He just doesn't have it in him.

I guess the 07-08 championship was a fluke then? He definitely carried the biggest load for the Celtics their entire title run.

He played as minutes as Pierce, he scored more, he scored as efficiently, rebounded more, and was more important to our defense as well.