The Old Bucks:
PG: Brandon Jennings/Kenyon Dooling/Earl Boykins
SG: John Salmons/Carlos Delfino/CDR
SF: Corey Maggette/Luc Richard Mbah A Moute
PF: Ersan Ilyasova/Drew Gooden/Larry Sanders
C: Andrew Bogut/Jon Brockman
New Bucks:
PG: Kyle Lowry/Jerryd Bayless
SG: Landry Fields/Reggie Williams/Deshawn Stevenson
SF: Paul Pierce/Shawne Williams
PF: Serge Ibaka/Drew Gooden/Tyler HansBrough
C: Andrew Bogut/Omer Asik
I definitely think I improved the current Bucks significantly.
Same opinion I had before: Better D, worse O. The Bench is better at the 5 and 1 but worse at the wings and comprable at the 4.
The Bucks are currently the lowest scoring team in the NBA, with the lowest FG%. Across the board my guys are better shooters...I don't see how I possibly have a worse offense.
Because you dropped the number of guys in the starting 5 who can consistently create their own shot from 4 to 2.
If the guys in the Bucks starting lineup are consistent scorers good at creating their own shot, how are they all shooting under 45%, excepting Andrew Bogut?
And also, how come Kyle Lowry can't get into the paint? How is Lowry such a downstep from Brandon Jennings?
He shoots a better %, he gets to the line more often, he's got a top ten Assist %, and he's been a better 3pt shooter so far this season.
I cannot see any kind of rational that would say my teams' offense would be worse than they current Bucks.
Well, first off the Brandon Jennings and Kyle Lowry comparisons are misleading because Jennings broke his foot this year. So if you're saying that at this particular moment Kyle Lowry is a better offensive player, I'd still disagree because of Jennings' past production and his demonstrated ability to take over games. While Lowry produces, he is not a game changer offensively nor is he a dynamic offensive player. He is, as the numbers suggest when you use the numbers and not the term " better than"-- for example the difference between their 3 point perentage is .008, a comprable player to Brandon jennings coming off a broken foot.
There is no way you can convince me that John Salmons and Landry Fields are comprable offensive players.
Pierce is a better player than Maggette, there's no argument, but the drop off from him to Maggette is far shallower than Salmons to Fields or even Jennings to Lowry.
Well let me say this, because I think we're arguing different points.
1) Lowry is a more efficient player this season than Brandon Jennings was last season too. How much of that is due to Jennings' high usage rate or rookie wall or whatever other excuses one might use is an unknown. Lowry this season is a much more efficient player than Jennings.
2) Landry Fields is not as good an individual scorer as John Salmons. When he tries to create his own shot, its not really ever a true iso..he's usually swung the ball while a defender is recovering from a switch or screen or something, and Fields drives to the hoop then. Fields is a better overall player than Salmons though this season, because he's a much better facilitator of the offense, and he's playing within the offense.
Which brings me to my next point...
3) Just because Jennings, Maggette, and Salmons can all 'create their own shots' does not mean they are a better offensive fit than Lowry/Fields/Pierce, or that they even fit well together. A person being able to 'create their own shot' to me means a situation where a player, often in isolation, is in a situation where their defender is not in a positional (on the court, not role-wise) disadvantage. Despite the 'fair' shot (for lack of a better word), the defender still cannot stop the player in question on a regular basis..that's my definition of "creating your own shot".
But then, look at the current Rockets. Lowry-Martin-Battier-Scola-Hill.
I think role-wise, my teams looks a lot like them, but with comparable or better talent at 4 of the 5 roles. Only Kevin Martin is an established "scorer" who can "create his own shot", but somehow these guys are 4th in the league in PPG.
Lowry=Lowry
Fields=Battier (on offense)
Pierce=Martin (Martin is a better pure scorer, Pierce is a better overall player)
Bogut<Scola (Scola is significantly more versatile with the ball in his hands)
Ibaka>Hill
Just because I don't have 4 guys who can take people off the dribble in my starting lineup does not mean that I will have the worst offense in the league...just like having 4 guys who can create their own shot does not mean that good shots are actually being created.