Perk : “I want to be with the Celtics, but I got to think about my future.”

[Bankshot]

Miami would be his most likely destination, IMO.  If anyone thinks BBD thinks too much of himself Perkins can't be too far behind in the department.  I hope he plays as well as he thinks he's going to.  But even if he's back to top form he's worth no more than 6-8 million a year.  He probably thinks he's getting 10 million.  He'll be sadly mistaken.

How is Miami the most likely destination ? The most they could offer him is the MLE which Danny would match without question .

If Perk leaves , it will be because a team with cap room offers him 9 mil+ per year .

I think Danny might not match a full MLE type deal, its great value for Perkins but it also would constrain building around Rondo.

We have to see what the CBA ends up being....

Signing a relatively young and good defensive center IS building around Rondo.  He's still going to need a center to play with.

[Fafnir]

Miami would be his most likely destination, IMO.  If anyone thinks BBD thinks too much of himself Perkins can't be too far behind in the department.  I hope he plays as well as he thinks he's going to.  But even if he's back to top form he's worth no more than 6-8 million a year.  He probably thinks he's getting 10 million.  He'll be sadly mistaken.

How is Miami the most likely destination ? The most they could offer him is the MLE which Danny would match without question .

If Perk leaves , it will be because a team with cap room offers him 9 mil+ per year .

I think Danny might not match a full MLE type deal, its great value for Perkins but it also would constrain building around Rondo.

We have to see what the CBA ends up being....

Signing a relatively young and good defensive center IS building around Rondo.  He's still going to need a center to play with.

Rondo will need another high level player around him to contend, Perkins is a role player. If locking up a role player prevents you from adding a bigger piece, how does that help Rondo?

[Birdbrain]

Miami would be his most likely destination, IMO.  If anyone thinks BBD thinks too much of himself Perkins can't be too far behind in the department.  I hope he plays as well as he thinks he's going to.  But even if he's back to top form he's worth no more than 6-8 million a year.  He probably thinks he's getting 10 million.  He'll be sadly mistaken.

How is Miami the most likely destination ? The most they could offer him is the MLE which Danny would match without question .

If Perk leaves , it will be because a team with cap room offers him 9 mil+ per year .

Valid point although if Perk gets 9 million he's going to a bottom feeder.  I just assumed he would get the Full MLE from Miami and Boston wouldn't match but, maybe your right.

[Bankshot]

Miami would be his most likely destination, IMO.  If anyone thinks BBD thinks too much of himself Perkins can't be too far behind in the department.  I hope he plays as well as he thinks he's going to.  But even if he's back to top form he's worth no more than 6-8 million a year.  He probably thinks he's getting 10 million.  He'll be sadly mistaken.

How is Miami the most likely destination ? The most they could offer him is the MLE which Danny would match without question .

If Perk leaves , it will be because a team with cap room offers him 9 mil+ per year .

I think Danny might not match a full MLE type deal, its great value for Perkins but it also would constrain building around Rondo.

We have to see what the CBA ends up being....

Signing a relatively young and good defensive center IS building around Rondo.  He's still going to need a center to play with.

Rondo will need another high level player around him to contend, Perkins is a role player. If locking up a role player prevents you from adding a bigger piece, how does that help Rondo?

Good role players are needed as well.  Besides Perk is a starting center which is a bit more than just a role player.  Might as well lock up the best defensive center available to play with Rondo.  Unless you're getting Dwight Howard, Perk is a must.  You can't have superstars at every position.

[barefacedmonk]

I wouldn't worry about him leaving just yet...This is from the preseason.

He said he won't push his representatives to talk extension, but he plans on remaining a Celtic.

"I want to stay here (in Boston)," he said. "I told Danny (Ainge) I ain't going nowhere and I meant it."

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/extras/celtics_blog/2010/09/perkins_wants_t.html

[incoherent]

Honestly, if I was Perkins... OKC is looking like a really nice option. 

Hate to say it but it's true.  Celtic's winning days are probably over in a couple years??  OKC just locked in Durant for how long? 

[ssspence]

Miami would be his most likely destination, IMO.  If anyone thinks BBD thinks too much of himself Perkins can't be too far behind in the department.  I hope he plays as well as he thinks he's going to.  But even if he's back to top form he's worth no more than 6-8 million a year.  He probably thinks he's getting 10 million.  He'll be sadly mistaken.

How is Miami the most likely destination ? The most they could offer him is the MLE which Danny would match without question .

If Perk leaves , it will be because a team with cap room offers him 9 mil+ per year .

I think Danny might not match a full MLE type deal, its great value for Perkins but it also would constrain building around Rondo.

We have to see what the CBA ends up being....

Signing a relatively young and good defensive center IS building around Rondo.  He's still going to need a center to play with.

Rondo will need another high level player around him to contend, Perkins is a role player. If locking up a role player prevents you from adding a bigger piece, how does that help Rondo?

Agreed. Perk is built for big three basketball. The make up is likely to change as KG, Ray and to a lesser extent Paul fade into the background.

[ssspence]

Miami would be his most likely destination, IMO.  If anyone thinks BBD thinks too much of himself Perkins can't be too far behind in the department.  I hope he plays as well as he thinks he's going to.  But even if he's back to top form he's worth no more than 6-8 million a year.  He probably thinks he's getting 10 million.  He'll be sadly mistaken.

How is Miami the most likely destination ? The most they could offer him is the MLE which Danny would match without question .

If Perk leaves , it will be because a team with cap room offers him 9 mil+ per year .

I think Danny might not match a full MLE type deal, its great value for Perkins but it also would constrain building around Rondo.

We have to see what the CBA ends up being....

Signing a relatively young and good defensive center IS building around Rondo.  He's still going to need a center to play with.

Rondo will need another high level player around him to contend, Perkins is a role player. If locking up a role player prevents you from adding a bigger piece, how does that help Rondo?

Good role players are needed as well.  Besides Perk is a starting center which is a bit more than just a role player.  Might as well lock up the best defensive center available to play with Rondo.  Unless you're getting Dwight Howard, Perk is a must.  You can't have superstars at every position.

won't know about howard before we sign perk. but signing perk could prevent us from signing howard.

[pearljammer10]

The one thing I would regret about Perk leaving is not being able to trade him for some value in return instead of letting him walk on his own.

I would miss Perk if he leaves, I mean this is the guys what 8th season in the league and he is only 26? Watching him grow from an 18 year old project into a defensive stopper and really gain a role and a name for himself has been pretty special.

With that said I think he will pull a Tony Allen in a sense and take of for more money. He will get an offer of 8 to 9 mil a year from a team that is willing to overpay. I wouldnt be made or think he is stupid for leaving though, he could be a starter on a different team and get paid pretty well for doing so. Would love to have him back at like 5 mil a year, but Im not so sure that will happen and I am not going to pay him 7+ mil a year to be our starting center. Ill let him walk and wish him the best at the same time.

[LooseCannon]

Perkins is an injury prone big man whose next contract may take him to the other side of 30.  His offensive deficiencies have made it so that he sometimes finds himself on the bench at the end of games.  He is not a great fit on offense for playing with Rondo.

He is not a superstar, so is not the type of player a good GM should give a big, long contract to.  Maybe you overpay him a bit on a short contract.  Maybe you give him a long, cheap contract.  But you should never give this sort of player a big money contract of four or more years.

A team on which Perkins is one of the top three or four players is probably not a championship team.

[MBunge]

It's possible that some team will ridiculously overpay for Perk, especially if he comes back strong this season and in the playoffs.  However, I think some people need to look at the centers around this league and understand what ridiculously overpaying for Perk would be.  If somebody offers him 12 million a year, Perk will probably ride off into the sunset but to balk at paying him 7 million a year to stay in Boston would be silly.  Darko is getting paid $5 mil a year and you can't argue Perk doesn't deserve a decent bit more than that.

mike

[blackbird]

The one thing I would regret about Perk leaving is not being able to trade him for some value in return instead of letting him walk on his own.

I would miss Perk if he leaves, I mean this is the guys what 8th season in the league and he is only 26? Watching him grow from an 18 year old project into a defensive stopper and really gain a role and a name for himself has been pretty special.

With that said I think he will pull a Tony Allen in a sense and take of for more money. He will get an offer of 8 to 9 mil a year from a team that is willing to overpay. I wouldnt be made or think he is stupid for leaving though, he could be a starter on a different team and get paid pretty well for doing so. Would love to have him back at like 5 mil a year, but Im not so sure that will happen and I am not going to pay him 7+ mil a year to be our starting center. Ill let him walk and wish him the best at the same time.

You won't pay $7M for Perkins? Okay, then, who would you prefer and what would you pay? Here is the list of centers this year making between $9M and $14M. I think Perk is comparable to enough of them to belong in the same class:

Andris Biedrins - $9M
Mehmet Okur - $9.9M
Andrew Bogut - $11M
Eddy Curry - $11.2M
Nene - 11.3M
Emeka Okafor - $11.5M
Chris Kaman - $11.8M
Tyson Chandler - $12.6M
Al Jefferson - $13M
Samuel Dalembert - $13.5M
Andrew Bynum - $13.7M

[Q_FBE]

Looking over the salary chart of big men - Perkins should be looking for 10 million a year. He could get that on a team like Sacremento but he is heading into the uncertainty of the new CBA since he was not extended by the Celtics. Besides Danny went out signed up the O'Neal brothers and Semih Erdin made the team. Harongody is looking like another find in the 2nd round.

[Chris]

The one thing I would regret about Perk leaving is not being able to trade him for some value in return instead of letting him walk on his own.

I would miss Perk if he leaves, I mean this is the guys what 8th season in the league and he is only 26? Watching him grow from an 18 year old project into a defensive stopper and really gain a role and a name for himself has been pretty special.

With that said I think he will pull a Tony Allen in a sense and take of for more money. He will get an offer of 8 to 9 mil a year from a team that is willing to overpay. I wouldnt be made or think he is stupid for leaving though, he could be a starter on a different team and get paid pretty well for doing so. Would love to have him back at like 5 mil a year, but Im not so sure that will happen and I am not going to pay him 7+ mil a year to be our starting center. Ill let him walk and wish him the best at the same time.

You won't pay $7M for Perkins? Okay, then, who would you prefer and what would you pay? Here is the list of centers this year making between $9M and $14M. I think Perk is comparable to enough of them to belong in the same class:

Andris Biedrins - $9M
Mehmet Okur - $9.9M
Andrew Bogut - $11M
Eddy Curry - $11.2M
Nene - 11.3M
Emeka Okafor - $11.5M
Chris Kaman - $11.8M
Tyson Chandler - $12.6M
Al Jefferson - $13M
Samuel Dalembert - $13.5M
Andrew Bynum - $13.7M

He absolutely belongs in the same class.  That doesn't mean it is the right move for the C's to give him that money.

I think that list is a great example of why he is going to be paid a lot of money this season.  However, I think his value to the C's is less than his market value. 

The problem is (as many of the teams who gave out those contracts have found out), it does not pay off for a team looking to rebuild (or reload, or whatever you want to call it) to have a player taking up such a large salary spot who does not have elite impact on the game. 

Those guys earned those salaries not because they are $10 million players, but because they play a position that is reltatively thin in this league.  Therefore, supply and demand leads to teams overpaying for them.  Thats great for a team that already has its core players in place.  However, for a team like the C's, who have only one core future player in place, the way the CBA is currently set up, it can really tie their hands to block themselves with a salary like that at this point on a guy who is not an elite impact player. 

[MBunge]

However, for a team like the C's, who have only one core future player in place, the way the CBA is currently set up, it can really tie their hands to block themselves with a salary like that at this point on a guy who is not an elite impact player. 

What you're not factoring in the the replacement cost.  Let's say you let Perkins walk.  How much is it going to cost to get another center just as good as he is?  What will it mean to your team if you can't?

Mike