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Re: Hollinger's big three article
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2010, 02:54:34 PM »

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Just do what I do, treat any of his ranks as good humor. 



Analyzing basket ball is about looking at both stats and what you see on the floor. 


Sticking basketball numbers into a formula tells you very little. 

Re: Hollinger's big three article
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2010, 04:13:13 PM »

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Here's a good formula...common sense.

I do take Hollinger's ratings with a grain of salt. Like him, I am a statistics person. I am sure that he simply plugged in his numbers and printed what he got. I have no real problem with that, but common sense tells me his stats don't make sense.

Re: Hollinger's big three article
« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2010, 04:16:45 PM »

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Funny, I hadn't read the article yet but after reading through these posts and then knowing that Hollinger is an ESPN guy, I couldn't help but think, this has to really be a P.R. article about just how great the Miami Heat are.

So I started reading the article and except for a quick start up mentioning LeBron and his trio, the Heat trio was largely ignore.

Until the end, when, sure enough, Hollinger can't help but dake the current Heat stats, extend them over an entire season and show that, yes, the Heat trio has the best stats in history for a trio. Doedsn't matter that the Heat's trio have padded their individual stats during one of the easiest stretches of their schedule and it's more than likely they won't maintain some of their numbers as the schedule toughens.

Same for the Lakers current trio.

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« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2010, 05:39:06 PM »

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Funny, I hadn't read the article yet but after reading through these posts and then knowing that Hollinger is an ESPN guy, I couldn't help but think, this has to really be a P.R. article about just how great the Miami Heat are.

So I started reading the article and except for a quick start up mentioning LeBron and his trio, the Heat trio was largely ignore.

Until the end, when, sure enough, Hollinger can't help but dake the current Heat stats, extend them over an entire season and show that, yes, the Heat trio has the best stats in history for a trio. Doedsn't matter that the Heat's trio have padded their individual stats during one of the easiest stretches of their schedule and it's more than likely they won't maintain some of their numbers as the schedule toughens.

Same for the Lakers current trio.
The Heat's stars might keep it up, PER loves the high usage type players that LeBron/Bosh/Wade are. Plus to keep winning they'll have to continue to play big minutes, the only thing I'd see slipping that was used in this article would be their defense.

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« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2010, 06:51:34 PM »

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The Kukoc over Rodman part was absolutely ridiculous. PER is an awful stat.
This is by far the stupidest part of this list.  Except maybe for Kobe, Gasol, and Bynum over KG, Paul, and Ray.
Well, that stats are only measuring when Bynum actually plays and he can contribute a lot when he does. It only feels silly because of how often he is out injured.

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« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2010, 07:23:24 PM »

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simply proof positive the Hollinger's analysis is of little practical use.  I'd take the Celtic, Laker and Sixer combos from the 80's over any team that came after them (including our current trio (as well as the current Laker and Heat trios). 

Re: Hollinger's big three article
« Reply #21 on: December 28, 2010, 11:31:09 AM »

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It's a fun piece, I liked it, but I don't put that much stock into it.  He didn't seem to have any propaganda like aims with it and Hollinger is not a biased guy, so please give that a rest.  At the end of the day, there isn't that much use in comparing across eras because the game is so different.
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