Nets close to acquiring Melo; Melo would sign extension (Rumor, No New News)

[StartOrien]

The more I think about it, the more I think these superstar trades don't make sense for the Nets. Presently constructed, they're not a superstar away. They're better off holding onto their assets and hope they develop, then they can reevaluate acquiring a superstar.

Only other thing is acquiring a lesser Iguodala type, who could help them win without having to gut too much of their future.

[Snakehead]

The more I think about it, the more I think these superstar trades don't make sense for the Nets. Presently constructed, they're not a superstar away. They're better off holding onto their assets and hope they develop, then they can reevaluate acquiring a superstar.

Only other thing is acquiring a lesser Iguodala type, who could help them win without having to gut too much of their future.

Igoudala gets paid enough that he is nearly getting your superstar pay.  He really belongs on a team that has the cap space and is already contending or near contending because he is a perfect complimentary player to another star or two.  We have seen him as the sole star in Philly and yeah, they suck.  You aren't winning anything with him as your sole star.

And I have no idea what you mean by the Nets future... besides Brook Lopez and Derrick Favors (and to a lesser, role playing extent Morrow) I think they have no future at all.  I mean, they do have a ton of picks but they can't just wait on all those players because they are planning and trying to move to Brooklyn.  They should have no shame in gutting the rest of their roster, all the players there I would not want on my team.

You have to go get a player like Melo to be able to market your team and sell tickets and have a draw for a possible Brooklyn move. And then you are an attractive free agent or trade destination and not every players nightmare to land in.  If they wait for the couple of good players they have to develop and possibly the talent they get from their draft picks, they will be terrible for years and fail in Brooklyn.

[Mike-Dub]

Well it's January since I originally posted this and haven't heard anything of it yet. 

Right now after the injury to Caron Butler I highly expect the Mavericks to go after Carmelo and rent him for the second half of the year.

[Chris]

Well it's January since I originally posted this and haven't heard anything of it yet.  

Right now after the injury to Caron Butler I highly expect the Mavericks to go after Carmelo and rent him for the second half of the year.

Yeah, I don't think they have a chance if the Nets have Favors on the table, but my guess is the Nets won't give up Favors without a promise of signing an extension, while the Mavs are willing to rent him.

I think if Melo makes it clear he is not resigning with anyone but NY, there may not be much out there better than an offer of something like Butler, Beaubois, and a first round pick.  

...and for a team like the Mavs, whose window is closing quickly, giving up Beaubois for a chance at a title with Melo is absolutely worth it.

[StartOrien]

And I have no idea what you mean by the Nets future

No future besides a starting center, promising athletic power foward, pretty decent pg, possibly 5 draft picks in the next two years and cap flexibility with an appealing new location and owner whose willing to spend to win.

The money isn't why if I was the Nets I'd target an Iguodala type over Carmelo. It's what you'd have to give up. I'd assume that you could probably land AI2 for Troy Muprhy and a first round pick (top 10 protected). In this case you'd enter 2011 w/

Harris
Iguodala
Morrow
Favors / Humphries
Lopez

and 4 first round picks in next two years.

If it doesn't work out, it's unfortunate for the Nets, but there's always going to be a contending team whose willing to roll the dice on AI2 with an expiring and maybe a pick. Or parlay him with the remaining picks into another available star. The risk is fairly minimal - albeit it obviously takes up a decent amount of the teams cap space. But, besides Melo who else is there? Do the Nets want to spend another off season spending their money on the Travis Outlaws and Jordan Farmars of the world?

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Meanwhile the rumored asking price for Carmelo Anthony is significantly higher. Ranging everywhere from Murphy, Favors and 3 first round picks to Murphy and all 5 first round picks. Let's assume its the more likely Favors deal

Harris
Ross/Morrow
Melo
Humpries/ Harrington?
Lopez

With two first round picks, and limited cap flexibility (assuming they want to pay Lopez) that's your team. And while it'll initially put some butts in the seat, I don't think that teams enough to compete. In fact, you're pretty much the Nuggets: Good not great.

[Moranis]

And I have no idea what you mean by the Nets future

No future besides a starting center, promising athletic power foward, pretty decent pg, possibly 5 draft picks in the next two years and cap flexibility with an appealing new location and owner whose willing to spend to win.

The money isn't why if I was the Nets I'd target an Iguodala type over Carmelo. It's what you'd have to give up. I'd assume that you could probably land AI2 for Troy Muprhy and a first round pick (top 10 protected). In this case you'd enter 2011 w/

Harris
Iguodala
Morrow
Favors / Humphries
Lopez

and 4 first round picks in next two years.

If it doesn't work out, it's unfortunate for the Nets, but there's always going to be a contending team whose willing to roll the dice on AI2 with an expiring and maybe a pick. Or parlay him with the remaining picks into another available star. The risk is fairly minimal - albeit it obviously takes up a decent amount of the teams cap space. But, besides Melo who else is there? Do the Nets want to spend another off season spending their money on the Travis Outlaws and Jordan Farmars of the world?

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Meanwhile the rumored asking price for Carmelo Anthony is significantly higher. Ranging everywhere from Murphy, Favors and 3 first round picks to Murphy and all 5 first round picks. Let's assume its the more likely Favors deal

Harris
Ross/Morrow
Melo
Humpries/ Harrington?
Lopez

With two first round picks, and limited cap flexibility (assuming they want to pay Lopez) that's your team. And while it'll initially put some butts in the seat, I don't think that teams enough to compete. In fact, you're pretty much the Nuggets: Good not great.

that's why the Nets are looking for other teams.  See my Melo, Nash, Harrington trade from the previous page.  Now all of a sudden you are adding two stars to Lopez and your future is looking much brighter (at least until Nash goes away).

[Edgar]

Nets wont be thinking this year but probably 3 years from now
then they could be in position to make a run like in kids years

maybe melo is absolutely tired of the west too

[indeedproceed]

lol...everytime I see this thread I think stuff is happening with this alleged rumor. SOoooooooo frustrating!

[Edgar]

lol...everytime I see this thread I think stuff is happening with this alleged rumor. SOoooooooo frustrating!

As Crotor I refuse to say never ever

[guava_wrench]

lol...everytime I see this thread I think stuff is happening with this alleged rumor. SOoooooooo frustrating!

One of the most annoying threads of all time.

Bump 

[StartOrien]

Moranis, to be honest I don't like the Nash deal either. Nash is 36, figure even if it comes all together they need another year for it all to come together. So next season he's 37 and even then, I'd take the Celtics, Heat, Magic and Bulls over a team of:

Nash
Q. Ross / Morrow
Melo / Outlaw
Harrington / Humphries
B. Lopez

I'm very rarely a 'stay the course' kinda guy, but I think this far away from being able to compete for a title they're better off holding onto as many chips as possible and hope some of these guys mature.

EDIT:

Cap experts, could the NETS acquire Iguodala (per say in a deal for Murphy and a pick) and still be able to sign Melo in the offseason? I get a feeling they'd have to get out of Outlaw's contract (good luck)

That'd be a pretty attractive offer for Carmelo.
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Saw this today

The trade would have sent one or two first-round picks to Cleveland in exchange for the large traded player exception that the Cavs acquired in signing-and-trading LeBron James to Miami.

Derrick Favors, Devin Harris and three first-round picks would have been sent to Denver. Al Harrington and his sizable contract would have been packaged with Anthony to New Jersey.

The deal fell apart because both Denver and Cleveland wanted the 2012 pick from Golden State that is protected for the top seven selections.

The Nets have a standing offer of Favors and two first-round picks for Anthony.

Good god New Jersey, let's chill on Melo

[Chris]

Saw this today

The trade would have sent one or two first-round picks to Cleveland in exchange for the large traded player exception that the Cavs acquired in signing-and-trading LeBron James to Miami.

Derrick Favors, Devin Harris and three first-round picks would have been sent to Denver. Al Harrington and his sizable contract would have been packaged with Anthony to New Jersey.

The deal fell apart because both Denver and Cleveland wanted the 2012 pick from Golden State that is protected for the top seven selections.

The Nets have a standing offer of Favors and two first-round picks for Anthony.

Good god New Jersey, let's chill on Melo

I saw that too.  It doesn't pass the smell test though, and I think something was lost in translation (or it was completely made up by the "source" to jack up the asking price).  NJ is basically bidding against themselves at this point, and I don't see them upping the offer that much, when their goal is trying to convince Melo NJ can compete.

[StartOrien]

Ya, you're right Chris. Possibly a plant by Denver?

[Chris]

Ya, you're right Chris. Possibly a plant by Denver?

It's certainly possible.  More likely though, the source or Broussard (I think thats who wrote it, right?) simply scrambled things a bit.  This always happens with these.  Guys will hear a few different rumors, which may be completely separate offers, and they combine them into one.