Rondo's stubbornness is disrespectful to everyone

[RAcker]

Yeah Tommy, Dave Cowens & Larry Bird should have played a bit easier to lengthen their careers. Bird was so cheap he wouldn't pay someone to shovel!
I can't comment anymore on the first 2 posters without being 

Yeah, is this thread for real? (pinching self)

[pearljammer10]

Im sorry but this is just a horrible post... Rondo is a top two or three point guard in the league who might average 14 assists per game. If you cant appreciate everything he does for the celtics root for another team.

[ChainSmokingLikeDino]

I prefaced my statements by saying that I knew why Rondo lets the ball roll, but it doesn't make much sense to me unless they really need to wind the clock down.  Tell me when you saw Cousey do something like that.  Just play the game.

Bob Cousy was one of the original NBA showboats, that comparison is not apt.

I agree with @2short - there are too many stories about players who end their careers too early because they do not take care of their bodies. Tommy, Cowens, Bird, hell Bias for that matter did not take care of their bodies.  A modern day example would be another punk - Allen Iverson.  The examples of Vince Carter and JO are extreme and dumb - I expect individuals to play injured, but being injured because you do not take care of your body is plain stupid and inexcusable. 

Well, I see where you come down on A.I. what with calling him a punk, but even if you dislike the guy to say he didn't take care of his body and that is why his career faltered is dead wrong. Yes, he played hard. Which way do you want it, Rondo doesn't take the game serious enough for you or he takes it too seriously? He's [dang]ed if he doesn't play hard and is too dang stubborn and aloof with those pesky alley-oops and his headband or he's [dang]ed if he isn't a "real" hard-nosed Celtic if he slacks off or has style.

I just don't understand these critiques at all. The presumption and judgment on display here is pretty much all I can't stand about certain strands of basketball commentary.

[scaryjerry]

mm...Rondo Is stubborn, yes and its been a reason he has become the player he is...I find this post hilatious that hes "disrepectful" when we have other playrs, stars who taunt opposing arenas/fans, and the biggest trash talking bully in the league, You would never see Rondo carry himself like that, along with ray allen hes the most level headed player on the team. Celts are full of different personalities, ive leaarned to deal with it so should you

[guava_wrench]

I abhor how he lets balls roll along before picking up the dribble (I know the reason for it, but it still looks ridiculous on TV) and even though his lobs and alley-oops guarantee easy, high percentage shots for the Celtics, I cannot help but hold my breath and think KG or Glenn Davis are a miscalculated pass away from a broken ankle.

Ok when Rondo lets the ball roll before picking it up, it's so that clock won't start until he touches it. It may look ridiculous to you, but it's an intelligent basketball play and not disrespectful. He'd be a fool not to do it in certain situations.

As for throwing alley oops, they're part of the game, a deadly weapon at times and energize everyone. You even admit that they "guarantee" easy high percentage shots, but you don't like them because someone MIGHT get injured? Should all NBA players never jump? just stay on the floor and play like the WNBA?

Rondo isn't disrespectful to anyone, never mind everyone. He doesn't owe you anything. Ridiculous OP imo.

TP for you, sir.
I didn't even know how to respond to the complaint about him throwing alley-oops. Like, really? That's a problem?

As far as this topic, it's overreaction much? He needs to grow up? Do you know him personally to make such an assessment of his character?

Look, what we know about this players are based on the media. We have no idea how he interacts with the training staff or coaches. Competitive players want the chance to play - this is the NBA; players play injured a lot - I can't even begin to imagine how many guys are nursing some variety of injuries already.

Just seems like some fans want to pick on Rondo regardless of what he does... Much ado about nothing.

The lobs also save the big guys from a lot of wear and tear. It is a lot less effort to get the lob and put it through than to bang with a defender in order to get off a shot. There are far more feet to land on if you feed a guy in the post than if you throw a lob.

Also, you really have to throw the lob if the defenders will front our bigs. Otherwise, how are you going to get the ball to guys in the post? Further, Rondo isn't going to throw the lob unless the post guy wants it -- meaning he looks to Rondo and than runs to the rim, or he seals his man outside. So no one should blame Rondo for the lobs (beside the fact that it is a great play).

Letting the ball roll allows us to start the offense with more time on the shot clock. It also gives the other players time to get to their spots on the floor. That can change a 24 second clock to a 25-27 second clock without forcing the entire team to sprint. That also makes it easier for us to run a second play if the first doesn't work.

These are not the things to be complaining about.

[greenpride32]

Regardless of how talented Rondo is on the floor, it's no secret he hasn't been considered the best locker room person.  That is the reason the C's explored trading him a couple of years back and had to think long and hard about signing him long term.  If he wasn't a talented player he would't be on the team.  But because he is talented, he is given some free passes (whether by the team or the fans).  Hopefully as he matures we will no longer need to discuss this issue.

[incoherent]

I prefaced my statements by saying that I knew why Rondo lets the ball roll, but it doesn't make much sense to me unless they really need to wind the clock down. 

No actually, he does it for the exact opposite reason... to save time, not wind down the clock (wasting time).  The whole point is the clock isn't ticking while it rolls.

[clover]

Barkley on Rondo:

"He is the engine that stirs the drink."

****.

The straw that makes the car go?

[Bahku]

Im sorry but this is just a horrible post... Rondo is a top two or three point guard in the league who might average 14 assists per game. If you cant appreciate everything he does for the celtics root for another team.

TP, PearlJammer. I am usually reluctant to be so objectionable to a post, but this one I just don't get at all, and the title just spun my head. Larry Bird was probably one of the most stubborn players in the history of the game, and it was never seen as disrespectful to his team. Rondo is a gem, and one that we got at a bargain ... the rest of the NBA is drooling over this kid and his ability to learn, adapt, see the floor, and play as unselfishly as anyone else in the league. He is our future and our core, and I am sooooooooooo thankful he's OURS!

[GreenFaith1819]

I have to agree with the Pro-Rondo supporters. My only issue with him was his low-top sneakers, but after reading through the thread that is even a non-issue to me now.

As for his play, well...I think my man Chris Webber sums Rondo's play for me right here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qoSXxWHV7Q

[Chief]

Nickname time. The "Seaman"!!!

[2short]

I prefaced my statements by saying that I knew why Rondo lets the ball roll, but it doesn't make much sense to me unless they really need to wind the clock down.  Tell me when you saw Cousey do something like that.  Just play the game.

I agree with @2short - there are too many stories about players who end their careers too early because they do not take care of their bodies. Tommy, Cowens, Bird, hell Bias for that matter did not take care of their bodies.  A modern day example would be another punk - Allen Iverson.  The examples of Vince Carter and JO are extreme and dumb - I expect individuals to play injured, but being injured because you do not take care of your body is plain stupid and inexcusable. 

As for high tops vs. low tops - I don't have enough fingers and toes to count how many times Rondo has lost a sneaker during a game this season.  How many times has Paul or KG lost a sneaker?  Come on man, cut me some slack.  I'm not an idiot and these are smart questions to have regardless of how much man-love you have for Rondo. 

Also, high tops do protect ankles from sprains - the National Institute of Health agrees with me - (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1323436/).

Also -

http://www.celticsblog.com/2010/12/16/1879710/rondos-stubbornness-is-disrespectful-to-everyone

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/basketball/celtics/view/20101030new_rule_turns_rajon_rondos_headband_habit_upside-down/

http://solecollector.com/Sneakers/News/Rajon-Rondo-Likes-To-Wear-His-Shoes-Really-Weirdly/

Lastly, if he's not going to have two bad ankles in a few years, he's going to die in a car crash - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB4gVUBDP14

One.

I don't think you want to agree with me, I was picking on your comments, guess I was so smooth it came accross super sarcastic

[Rondo2287]

If Rondo didnt leave all his effort out on the floor he may preserve his career, but he wouldnt be as effective.

"To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice your gift." - Steve Prefontaine

[2short]

If Rondo didnt leave all his effort out on the floor he may preserve his career, but he wouldnt be as effective.

"To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice your gift." - Steve Prefontaine

"In my own life I am not willing to sacrifice quality for quantity" John Steinbeck
rest of the quote is great but I'd bungle it up going from a fading memory

again to the original topic poster i was being F A SHEESH US

[Celtics4ever]

Patrick Young (Stockholm Sweden): It seems today that everyone has to have his own shoe design with different "bells and whistles". Is it true you were a low-top wearer? How did your ankles survive down-low?

Bill Russell: We used to tape our ankles, even when they weren't hurt, to give them strength and keep them from rolling over. So, it didn't matter about the shoes. In those days, the shoes were canvas and didn't give you much support anyway. The difference was how well your trainer taped your ankles.



Myth of hightops, lowtops never hurt this guy....

Proof of high tops non protection, bonus they are all Lakers!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjTT4F05v24

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87igKqIka2c&NR=1

Zero protection....