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Re: A Game of Thrones (contains spoilers)
« Reply #495 on: June 09, 2015, 11:12:32 AM »

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I'm guessing the finale will show that Doran's got some schemes going on.  He's not entirely unlike his brother, he just uses different, more subtle means.  He is the Martell version of Tywin.

Probably will involve something happening to Myrcella on the way back to King's Landing.
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« Reply #496 on: June 09, 2015, 11:31:15 AM »

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I'm guessing the finale will show that Doran's got some schemes going on.  He's not entirely unlike his brother, he just uses different, more subtle means.  He is the Martell version of Tywin.

Probably will involve something happening to Myrcella on the way back to King's Landing.
honestly, I'd be a little surprised if something happened on the way back.  not enough suffering for Cerce.  I could see some foreshadowing of something happening to her once she's back to the city next year after her boytoy is on the small council and Cerce thinks her daughter is now safe.  something that can't be traced back to Doran

Re: A Game of Thrones (contains spoilers)
« Reply #497 on: June 09, 2015, 12:37:46 PM »

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I'm guessing the finale will show that Doran's got some schemes going on.  He's not entirely unlike his brother, he just uses different, more subtle means.  He is the Martell version of Tywin.

Probably will involve something happening to Myrcella on the way back to King's Landing.

I agree with the first part, but unless he's got a very different mindset than in the books, Doran isn't just going to kill a teenage girl who had nothing to do with his siblings' deaths.  It'd start a war (probably) and wouldn't really accomplish anything but upsetting the Lannisters. 

He seems much more big-picture, which is why positioning someone to take the throne - or marry the person who does - seems like a more likely endgame to me.

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« Reply #498 on: June 09, 2015, 02:37:21 PM »

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He seems much more big-picture, which is why positioning someone to take the throne - or marry the person who does - seems like a more likely endgame to me.

Yeah, I agree with that.  I just have a feeling that whatever happens will reveal Doran to be more like his "Viper" brother than we have seen to this point.  Something to show that he's not entirely a pacifist who just wants to sit in his palace and look at his children playing in the gardens.
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« Reply #499 on: June 09, 2015, 02:58:46 PM »

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Prince Martell is much closer to Littlefinger than anyone else in the series.  In the books he has schemes all over the place.  What he doesn't want is a war he will lose, but is perfectly fine with war.  He just wants to make sure he wins it with as little damage to his own people as possible.
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« Reply #500 on: June 09, 2015, 04:15:31 PM »

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This season has really picked up since episode 7. I like the books better still but some of the show changes have been better than the books while some I could've done without (pretty much ever Dornish scene so far)

Either way the season finale should be the best of the series!

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« Reply #501 on: June 10, 2015, 01:23:56 PM »

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Re: A Game of Thrones (contains spoilers)
« Reply #502 on: June 10, 2015, 01:25:26 PM »

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This season has really picked up since episode 7. I like the books better still but some of the show changes have been better than the books while some I could've done without (pretty much ever Dornish scene so far)

Either way the season finale should be the best of the series!
Every Dorne scene is just so unbelievably cringe worthy. 

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« Reply #503 on: June 10, 2015, 01:33:29 PM »

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I'm bracing myself for the big death at the end of book 5.  Looks like it may very well happen, though would be stranger in the show based on some of the changes made.
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« Reply #504 on: June 10, 2015, 02:31:24 PM »

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Prince Martell is much closer to Littlefinger than anyone else in the series.  In the books he has schemes all over the place.  What he doesn't want is a war he will lose, but is perfectly fine with war.  He just wants to make sure he wins it with as little damage to his own people as possible.

That's probably true.  I just feel like the show set up this false ending to the Dorne story in Episode 9, with Doran apparently wanting peace with the Lannisters and no interest in revenge. 

Based on how things have gotten reversed in the past on the show, I have a feeling episode 10 will involve some kind of turnaround, even if it's an indirect one that doesn't explicitly implicate the Martells.
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« Reply #505 on: June 10, 2015, 04:23:34 PM »

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Prince Martell is much closer to Littlefinger than anyone else in the series.  In the books he has schemes all over the place.  What he doesn't want is a war he will lose, but is perfectly fine with war.  He just wants to make sure he wins it with as little damage to his own people as possible.

That's probably true.  I just feel like the show set up this false ending to the Dorne story in Episode 9, with Doran apparently wanting peace with the Lannisters and no interest in revenge. 

Based on how things have gotten reversed in the past on the show, I have a feeling episode 10 will involve some kind of turnaround, even if it's an indirect one that doesn't explicitly implicate the Martells.

As shoddy as the Dorne stuff has been, there'd better be more to it than "errybody happy, let's go home now"!

...it sounds like you haven't read the books, so at the risk of minor/implied spoilers, it's very likely we will see something like that this week, probably mainly in the form of Doran explaining himself to Ellaria.  Doran has definitely not forgotten or forgiven the Lannisters using the Mountain to kill his brother and sister; he's just a lot more cold-blooded about it than most of  the people around him.


I'm bracing myself for the big death at the end of book 5.  Looks like it may very well happen, though would be stranger in the show based on some of the changes made.

Oh, that's definitely happening.  They practically had a character wink to the audience about it a couple episodes back.

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« Reply #508 on: June 10, 2015, 05:45:19 PM »

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Prince Martell is much closer to Littlefinger than anyone else in the series.  In the books he has schemes all over the place.  What he doesn't want is a war he will lose, but is perfectly fine with war.  He just wants to make sure he wins it with as little damage to his own people as possible.

That's probably true.  I just feel like the show set up this false ending to the Dorne story in Episode 9, with Doran apparently wanting peace with the Lannisters and no interest in revenge. 

Based on how things have gotten reversed in the past on the show, I have a feeling episode 10 will involve some kind of turnaround, even if it's an indirect one that doesn't explicitly implicate the Martells.

As shoddy as the Dorne stuff has been, there'd better be more to it than "errybody happy, let's go home now"!

...it sounds like you haven't read the books, so at the risk of minor/implied spoilers, it's very likely we will see something like that this week, probably mainly in the form of Doran explaining himself to Ellaria.  Doran has definitely not forgotten or forgiven the Lannisters using the Mountain to kill his brother and sister; he's just a lot more cold-blooded about it than most of  the people around him.


I'm bracing myself for the big death at the end of book 5.  Looks like it may very well happen, though would be stranger in the show based on some of the changes made.

Oh, that's definitely happening.  They practically had a character wink to the audience about it a couple episodes back.

Indeed, I HAVE read the books, which is why I'm confident this week's episode will reveal that Doran is up to more than we've been shown so far.


Side-note, I'm disappointed they haven't done more to establish Areo Hotah and Doran as characters.  I actually kind of liked the way they were developed in the books.  I could do with more fleshing out of those two characters and less of the cartoonish Sand Snakes.
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