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Re: Despite pundits, Heat look scary
« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2010, 02:56:55 PM »

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Coincidence that the three teams the Heat have loss to have the three best PGs in the league....I think not!!!

Re: Despite pundits, Heat look scary
« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2010, 05:57:54 PM »

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LeBron dribbles way to much and hurts offensive flow.  His assist numbers are decent but so are his TO's.   But this guy is a total ball hog and is just plain ugly to watch play.   Watching a guy drive and get ticky tack fouls called for him and shooting FT's is boring.

Re: Despite pundits, Heat look scary
« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2010, 07:01:46 PM »

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Coincidence that the three teams the Heat have loss to have the three best PGs in the league....I think not!!!

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Re: Despite pundits, Heat look scary
« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2010, 08:07:52 PM »

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I have been very unimpressed with the Heat. Surely, they could prove us wrong in June like they did in 2006. If you recall, that 05-06 team was dysfunctional to the core. Antoine Walker was a starter on that team.

But based on their first 10 odd games to start the year, their weaknesses are beyond evident - they are glaring. You saw that statistic on TNT which exposed Miami's lack of interior play so far this year. They are in the bottom of three important categories - rebounding, shot blocking, and points allowed in the paint I believe.

When your big men are Udonis Haslem, Big Z, and Chris Bosh (oh yeah and Joel the "Machine" Anthony), your interior play will suffer notwithstanding all the talent.

Another reason why Miami's off to such a bad start is Chris Bosh. This guy needs to be a #1 or at worst a #2 to be productive on the floor. He isn't getting the ball as much so his net effect on the rest of his team has suffered. Not that he was ever known for his defense either, but if he doesn't get rid of the soft label, there is no way Miami wins a title, barring a trade to bring in a big named interior presence. That dunk last night by Rondo is proof that Bosh has trouble, or simply does not want to, step up the defensive pressure especially on penetration. By the same token, though, I've seen stranger things happen. Pau Gasol emerged into arguably the best big in the game today because he stopped playing soft. He is graceful, surely, but he grabs boards and plays aggressively now. The talent with either name has nor will ever be a question.

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« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2010, 01:33:27 PM »

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Their chemistry stinks.   Too much dribbling to create offense, this team is not a threat to anyone who is decent.  CLE last year was actually was a better team than HEAT thus far this year.
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Re: Despite pundits, Heat look scary
« Reply #35 on: January 19, 2011, 12:10:49 AM »

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Re: Despite pundits, Heat look scary
« Reply #36 on: January 19, 2011, 12:14:36 AM »

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Bad time to bump it...they just lost 4 in a row.
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Re: Despite pundits, Heat look scary
« Reply #37 on: January 19, 2011, 12:15:49 AM »

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Re: Despite pundits, Heat look scary
« Reply #38 on: January 19, 2011, 12:20:10 AM »

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I thought the irony would put me over the edge (looks pretty nice next to that post with the similar title, doesn't it?) but I guess not haha. My bad.

Re: Despite pundits, Heat look scary
« Reply #39 on: January 19, 2011, 08:17:28 AM »

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Their lack of depth is really killing them presently.  Funny that it happens after LeBron's karma twitter. 

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« Reply #40 on: January 19, 2011, 08:40:45 AM »

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Over the past few years, LeBron has turned into a 6'8" Iverson without the heart.

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« Reply #41 on: January 19, 2011, 09:08:47 AM »

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LeBron dribbles way to much and hurts offensive flow.  His assist numbers are decent but so are his TO's.   But this guy is a total ball hog and is just plain ugly to watch play.   Watching a guy drive and get ticky tack fouls called for him and shooting FT's is boring.

Yup.  I hate watching Lebron play.  He dances around at the top of the key pounding the air out of the ball until he decides to bull his way to the basket, traveling and committing offensive fouls on the way. ::)

The Heat are foolish if they think Lebron can be their point guard.  He's a pretty good passer, but like Pierce, you don't want him being your full time point guard.  He's really not that good a running an offense and neither is Wade.  They might be better off letting Arroyo handle the ball.
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« Reply #42 on: January 19, 2011, 10:15:59 AM »

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LeBron dribbles way to much and hurts offensive flow.  His assist numbers are decent but so are his TO's.   But this guy is a total ball hog and is just plain ugly to watch play.   Watching a guy drive and get ticky tack fouls called for him and shooting FT's is boring.

Yup.  I hate watching Lebron play.  He dances around at the top of the key pounding the air out of the ball until he decides to bull his way to the basket, traveling and committing offensive fouls on the way. ::)

The Heat are foolish if they think Lebron can be their point guard. 
He's a pretty good passer, but like Pierce, you don't want him being your full time point guard.  He's really not that good a running an offense and neither is Wade.  They might be better off letting Arroyo handle the ball.

He's a lot like Derrick Rose in that respect.  I think I would rather watch paint dry then one guy dribbling and shooting all the time.  At least LJ has achieved a modicum of success.  Rose is 2011 version of Allen Iverson w/ less defense and he's being mentioned as a MVP.  Up is down.
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« Reply #43 on: January 19, 2011, 10:48:22 AM »

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LeBron dribbles way to much and hurts offensive flow.  His assist numbers are decent but so are his TO's.   But this guy is a total ball hog and is just plain ugly to watch play.   Watching a guy drive and get ticky tack fouls called for him and shooting FT's is boring.

Yup.  I hate watching Lebron play.  He dances around at the top of the key pounding the air out of the ball until he decides to bull his way to the basket, traveling and committing offensive fouls on the way. ::)

The Heat are foolish if they think Lebron can be their point guard. 
He's a pretty good passer, but like Pierce, you don't want him being your full time point guard.  He's really not that good a running an offense and neither is Wade.  They might be better off letting Arroyo handle the ball.

He's a lot like Derrick Rose in that respect.  I think I would rather watch paint dry then one guy dribbling and shooting all the time.  At least LJ has achieved a modicum of success.  Rose is 2011 version of Allen Iverson w/ less defense and he's being mentioned as a MVP.  Up is down.

I can't understate enough how much I disagree with this statement. But I sense that no matter what kind of numbers I give, you're going to look for something to nitpick.

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« Reply #44 on: January 19, 2011, 10:53:16 AM »

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The Heat are foolish if they think Lebron can be their point guard.  He's a pretty good passer, but like Pierce, you don't want him being your full time point guard.  He's really not that good a running an offense and neither is Wade.  They might be better off letting Arroyo handle the ball.

Miami is fifth in the league in offensive efficiency with LeBron/Wade handling the majority of the offense...this includes the first month of the season when the players were getting used to each other. The Celtics, by comparison, are 9th.


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