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Re: Jason Whitlock takes Bosh to task. BIG TIME!
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2010, 04:32:49 PM »

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What a silly, sensationalist article.
That's Whitlock's thing.
Yep -- bloody awful sports writer

Re: Jason Whitlock takes Bosh to task. BIG TIME!
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2010, 04:33:55 PM »

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I found this part of the article to be interesting...

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Is Bosh a homeless man’s Dirk Nowitzki, a perimeter big man who put up inflated scoring and rebounding numbers because when visiting NBA players cross the Canadian border they put far more effort into acquiring condoms, loonies and a strip-club champagne room than their on-court assignments?

Indeed. Loonies are dollar coins. Why would Canadian strippers prefer those to bills?
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Re: Jason Whitlock takes Bosh to task. BIG TIME!
« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2010, 04:34:51 PM »

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Erik Dampier is a guy that should 100% be on the heat right now. His whole "I want to win" schpiel must have been a smoke screen, because that makes too much sense not to happen.

If Bosh was traded, there are a number of teams that could make sound smart offers that benefit both squads.

Denver: Chris Andersen, Kenyon Martin (if he gets healthy) and Ty Lawson for Bosh

Pleases Carmelo, Denver keeps its best big in Nene, and puts them a step closer to LA

Miami gets a legit starting frontcourt and a legit starting PG.

Cleveland: Varejao and Jamison for Bosh

If it werent for the fact that Bosh promptly jumps out of Cleveland's tallest building (3 stories? just guessing) upon hearing this, it would make a lot of sense.

The Bosh for Kaman and picks makes sense money-wise, but I don't know how Blake Griffin fits in.

The Kings' Casspi, Dalembert, and Jason Thompson for Bosh is great deal.

I found this part of the article to be interesting...

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Is Bosh a homeless man’s Dirk Nowitzki, a perimeter big man who put up inflated scoring and rebounding numbers because when visiting NBA players cross the Canadian border they put far more effort into acquiring condoms, loonies and a strip-club champagne room than their on-court assignments?

Indeed. Loonies are dollar coins. Why would Canadian strippers prefer those to bills?

I've been to Montreal numberous times. They do not.

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Re: Jason Whitlock takes Bosh to task. BIG TIME!
« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2010, 05:42:42 PM »

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It may be early for that assessment, but so far it has been accurate.  What if the Cavs traded Varajao and Hickson for Bosh?  The Heat would be like last years Cavs plus Wade.  I like Whitlock and it was an entertaining article as usual.  He also referred to KG as a trash talking, cheap shot taking goon.

The cheap shot trash talking goon sounds alot like this Whitlock guy. Takes one to know one I guess lol

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« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2010, 06:17:52 PM »

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I don't know why but I just can't see the Cavs making a trade with the Heat

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« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2010, 07:04:30 PM »

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Udonis Haslem and Joel Anthony can’t fix this. They’re not long enough, bulky enough, tough enough, talented enough or hyper enough to give the Heat what they’ll need to beat the serious title contenders (Boston, Los Angeles, Chicago, San Antonio) or maybe even the pretenders (New Orleans, Orlando, Atlanta) in a seven-game series.

I always liked Haslem.  I think he's bulky, tough, and talented enough (but maybe not long and hyper).

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The Heat don’t need a Big Three. Wade and James need a rebounding and defensive goon.

The Great Ones -- particularly finesse players -- always need a Dave Semenko. (Oh, you thought I couldn’t make a hockey analogy?)

Jordan had Oakley and Grant and Rodman. Magic had Rambis. Isiah Thomas and Joe Dumars had Bill Laimbeer, Rick Mahorn and Rodman. Kobe had Shaq and now he has Ron Artest.

Can't Haslem be that guy?  Oakley, Rodman, Rambis, and Artest are all listed somewhere between 6'6"-6'8" (Haslem is listed as 6'8"), so the size doesn't matter.  Sure some are more talented, some are more hyper, but why can't Haslem be that  guy.

Wasn't Haslem that guy for the 2006 Heat? (Although it helps any guy to have Shaq, Mourning, and Posey also).

If you believe they need that one guy like Whitlock says, well then they already have him.

If you ever expected Bosh to be that guy, then you've never seen him play before, no way they brought Bosh in to be the "enforcer" type player.

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« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2010, 07:31:36 PM »

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He also referred to KG as a trash talking, cheap shot taking goon.

LOL...How can you be a goon when you run like hell after throwing an elbow or run like hell when you get physically challenged.

Whitlock has the first two things right. 

Onto the Bosh article....This partnership was always going to be a trainwreck IMHO.  Bosh is the weakest....and softest link.  He'll get the blame when this grand experiment fails.

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« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2010, 08:13:39 PM »

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What a silly, sensationalist article.

Bosh would be great if they put him next to a guy like Brendan Haywood, Samuel Dalembert, Marc Gasol, Roy Hibbert, etc.  A big 7 footish dude who blocks shots, pulls down double digit boards, and can't be pushed around easily.

They also need to incorporate him into the offense effectively.  It's not Bosh's fault if James and Wade don't really know how to use him properly.  Bosh has barely rolled to the rim on pick and roll plays this year, even though last year he was second in the league in FG% when finishing at the rim on a pick and roll (behind only Dwight Howard).

The Wade / James and Bosh pick and roll should be absolutely deadly.  Instead, they're going mainly with the pick and pop, which forces Bosh to be even more of a jumpshooter than he has been in the past.  It's no wonder he's not rebounding or scoring as much, or shooting as good a percentage from the floor.

Bosh is not a center.  He's not a more athletic version of Big Z.  The more the Heat (LeBron) try to use him as one, the more they will be disappointed.

This is why I was so confused Miami didn't pursue Dampier.  Dampier ain't a great player, but he's a legit 5 that's known as a rebounder and good defensive player - a poor mans' Perk.  Even if it was for just 20-25 minutes a game, for those minutes Bosh could play his natural position and his weaknesses would be less exposed. 

Doesn't make any sense, I don't think Dampier was looking at more than a vet min contract, he was looking to sign with a winning team.  Not sure why you'd tell him "no thanks" and instead roll with Joel Anthony and Magliore. 

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« Reply #23 on: November 09, 2010, 08:23:43 PM »

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The Heat don’t need a Big Three. Wade and James need a rebounding and defensive goon.

The Great Ones -- particularly finesse players -- always need a Dave Semenko. (Oh, you thought I couldn’t make a hockey analogy?)

Jordan had Oakley and Grant and Rodman. Magic had Rambis. Isiah Thomas and Joe Dumars had Bill Laimbeer, Rick Mahorn and Rodman. Kobe had Shaq and now he has Ron Artest.

Can't Haslem be that guy?  Oakley, Rodman, Rambis, and Artest are all listed somewhere between 6'6"-6'8" (Haslem is listed as 6'8"), so the size doesn't matter.  Sure some are more talented, some are more hyper, but why can't Haslem be that  guy.

Wasn't Haslem that guy for the 2006 Heat?


Actually, Dick Bavetta, Joe DeRosa, and Bennett Salvatore were those guys for the 2006 Heat.
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« Reply #24 on: November 09, 2010, 08:27:43 PM »

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From the article:
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The Heat don’t need a Big Three. Wade and James need a rebounding and defensive goon.

The Great Ones -- particularly finesse players -- always need a Dave Semenko. (Oh, you thought I couldn’t make a hockey analogy?)

Jordan had Oakley and Grant and Rodman. Magic had Rambis. Isiah Thomas and Joe Dumars had Bill Laimbeer, Rick Mahorn and Rodman. Kobe had Shaq and now he has Ron Artest.

Can't Haslem be that guy?  Oakley, Rodman, Rambis, and Artest are all listed somewhere between 6'6"-6'8" (Haslem is listed as 6'8"), so the size doesn't matter.  Sure some are more talented, some are more hyper, but why can't Haslem be that  guy.

Wasn't Haslem that guy for the 2006 Heat?


Actually, Dick Bavetta, Joe DeRosa, and Bennett Salvatore were those guys for the 2006 Heat.

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« Reply #25 on: November 09, 2010, 09:20:04 PM »

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What a silly, sensationalist article.

Bosh would be great if they put him next to a guy like Brendan Haywood, Samuel Dalembert, Marc Gasol, Roy Hibbert, etc.  A big 7 footish dude who blocks shots, pulls down double digit boards, and can't be pushed around easily.

They also need to incorporate him into the offense effectively.  It's not Bosh's fault if James and Wade don't really know how to use him properly.  Bosh has barely rolled to the rim on pick and roll plays this year, even though last year he was second in the league in FG% when finishing at the rim on a pick and roll (behind only Dwight Howard).

The Wade / James and Bosh pick and roll should be absolutely deadly.  Instead, they're going mainly with the pick and pop, which forces Bosh to be even more of a jumpshooter than he has been in the past.  It's no wonder he's not rebounding or scoring as much, or shooting as good a percentage from the floor.

Bosh is not a center.  He's not a more athletic version of Big Z.  The more the Heat (LeBron) try to use him as one, the more they will be disappointed.

This is why I was so confused Miami didn't pursue Dampier.  Dampier ain't a great player, but he's a legit 5 that's known as a rebounder and good defensive player - a poor mans' Perk.  Even if it was for just 20-25 minutes a game, for those minutes Bosh could play his natural position and his weaknesses would be less exposed. 

Doesn't make any sense, I don't think Dampier was looking at more than a vet min contract, he was looking to sign with a winning team.  Not sure why you'd tell him "no thanks" and instead roll with Joel Anthony and Magliore. 

I think Dampier is both looking at larger than a vet min contract, and he's waiting for the right one. That's why he's not in Miami. Pat Riley isn't dumb enough to not offer that.

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