The Future.

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Lots of people in this thread channeling their inner Chris Wallace and wanting to overpay for Glen Davis.  You don't give starter money to a bench role player.

Ideally, no. But, if BBD keeps his current level up play up and isn't at least getting 7 a year, he'll find it somewhere else.

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We should all be focusing on more important things in 2012, like saving the world! Ahhhhh 2012!

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2012 best case scenario would be to steal D.Howard from the Magic. The Magic will still have money tied into Lewis, Nelson, Gortat, and other mediocre players that their Gm is bound to bring in. Without some real star support they will basically be headed for another empty championship run. Dwight will look at the magic then see the heat, Lakers, Celtics and whatever other superstar team that's bound to be formed by then and realize he needs to bolt. Then we pick up the pieces  .

Rondo will be the main selling point, Nelson can't get the ball to him they way Rondo can. We convince him we'll pick up another player, maybe Mayo maybe someone better. Then we convince him KG and Ray will resign for cheap if Dwight is coming. When KG, Ray, and Pierce contracts are all up we'll have the flexibility to either extend them or look for other pieces. The goofy **** can't say no to that can he? 

Howard alone would guarantee that we're a top rebounding and defensive team all we would have to do is find the offense (Rondo and some shooters ).

So it would...

Rondo a prime star
Ray 37, KG 35, Pierce 35 above average veteran role players
D.Howard a prime superstar

Just find a 3rd star or someone to take on the scoring role since Rondo's the playmaker and Howard's the defender, rebounder, and finisher.

If our cap after resigning Pierce, KG, Ray, extending Perkins, and likely Baby is around 44 millions or so, Dwight isn't on the table.

Even if we don't sign Baby OR Perkins after this season (a big, BIG risk), we'll still probably be at around 35 to 40 million or so.

I don't see how we'll be open to a max player.

Danny Ainge isn't going to re-sign anyone beyond 2012. The numbers you are throwing out for Davis and Perkins are outrageous. I believe this will be Danny's plan: Re-sign no one beyond 2012. Have only Pierce and Rondo on the books, with maybe Bradley and another rookie or two. Make a hard push to sign two near max free agents in 2012. Offer minimum contracts to KG and Ray. They will likely accept to play one or two more years with a reduced role while still being a championship contender.

2012-2013 lineup:

Rondo
Near max free agent
Pierce
Garnett
Howard

Sixth man: Ray Allen

[indeedproceed]

2012 best case scenario would be to steal D.Howard from the Magic. The Magic will still have money tied into Lewis, Nelson, Gortat, and other mediocre players that their Gm is bound to bring in. Without some real star support they will basically be headed for another empty championship run. Dwight will look at the magic then see the heat, Lakers, Celtics and whatever other superstar team that's bound to be formed by then and realize he needs to bolt. Then we pick up the pieces  .

Rondo will be the main selling point, Nelson can't get the ball to him they way Rondo can. We convince him we'll pick up another player, maybe Mayo maybe someone better. Then we convince him KG and Ray will resign for cheap if Dwight is coming. When KG, Ray, and Pierce contracts are all up we'll have the flexibility to either extend them or look for other pieces. The goofy **** can't say no to that can he? 

Howard alone would guarantee that we're a top rebounding and defensive team all we would have to do is find the offense (Rondo and some shooters ).

So it would...

Rondo a prime star
Ray 37, KG 35, Pierce 35 above average veteran role players
D.Howard a prime superstar

Just find a 3rd star or someone to take on the scoring role since Rondo's the playmaker and Howard's the defender, rebounder, and finisher.

If our cap after resigning Pierce, KG, Ray, extending Perkins, and likely Baby is around 44 millions or so, Dwight isn't on the table.

Even if we don't sign Baby OR Perkins after this season (a big, BIG risk), we'll still probably be at around 35 to 40 million or so.

I don't see how we'll be open to a max player.

Danny Ainge isn't going to re-sign anyone beyond 2012. The numbers you are throwing out for Davis and Perkins are outrageous. I believe this will be Danny's plan: Re-sign no one beyond 2012. Have only Pierce and Rondo on the books, with maybe Bradley and another rookie or two. Make a hard push to sign two near max free agents in 2012. Offer minimum contracts to KG and Ray. They will likely accept to play one or two more years with a reduced role while still being a championship contender.

2012-2013 lineup:

Rondo
Near max free agent
Pierce
Garnett
Howard

Sixth man: Ray Allen

Well if you're talking "outrageous", where do you get the idea that KG and Ray will take minimum contracts?

And as far as Perkins and Baby, 8 million per is FAR from that. Perkins was signed to his current extension of 4.3 million after coming off of a 4.5 point 6.2 reb season, where we won nothing.

He's been a key part of 1 championship team and 1 runner up, and plays maybe the best man post defense of anyone in the NBA. He averaged 10 points and 7 rebounds last season, and he'll be 26 next season. At age 29, Brendan Haywood averaged 9 and 9, and got a 6 year 52 million dollar contract.

Glen Davis is proving that he can increase his previous per minute production with higher minutes. That is an expensive commodity.

8 million dollars per could move either way, but its not outrageous. Now, if you think they won't resign either player in a lockout year, I believe it. But, someone will, at a rate comparable in the new CBA.

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2012 best case scenario would be to steal D.Howard from the Magic. The Magic will still have money tied into Lewis, Nelson, Gortat, and other mediocre players that their Gm is bound to bring in. Without some real star support they will basically be headed for another empty championship run. Dwight will look at the magic then see the heat, Lakers, Celtics and whatever other superstar team that's bound to be formed by then and realize he needs to bolt. Then we pick up the pieces   .

Rondo will be the main selling point, Nelson can't get the ball to him they way Rondo can. We convince him we'll pick up another player, maybe Mayo maybe someone better. Then we convince him KG and Ray will resign for cheap if Dwight is coming. When KG, Ray, and Pierce contracts are all up we'll have the flexibility to either extend them or look for other pieces. The goofy **** can't say no to that can he?  

Howard alone would guarantee that we're a top rebounding and defensive team all we would have to do is find the offense (Rondo and some shooters ).

So it would...

Rondo a prime star
Ray 37, KG 35, Pierce 35 above average veteran role players
D.Howard a prime superstar

Just find a 3rd star or someone to take on the scoring role since Rondo's the playmaker and Howard's the defender, rebounder, and finisher.

If our cap after resigning Pierce, KG, Ray, extending Perkins, and likely Baby is around 44 millions or so, Dwight isn't on the table.

Even if we don't sign Baby OR Perkins after this season (a big, BIG risk), we'll still probably be at around 35 to 40 million or so.

I don't see how we'll be open to a max player.

Danny Ainge isn't going to re-sign anyone beyond 2012. The numbers you are throwing out for Davis and Perkins are outrageous. I believe this will be Danny's plan: Re-sign no one beyond 2012. Have only Pierce and Rondo on the books, with maybe Bradley and another rookie or two. Make a hard push to sign two near max free agents in 2012. Offer minimum contracts to KG and Ray. They will likely accept to play one or two more years with a reduced role while still being a championship contender.

2012-2013 lineup:

Rondo
Near max free agent
Pierce
Garnett
Howard

Sixth man: Ray Allen

Well if you're talking "outrageous", where do you get the idea that KG and Ray will take minimum contracts?

And as far as Perkins and Baby, 8 million per is FAR from that. Perkins was signed to his current extension of 4.3 million after coming off of a 4.5 point 6.2 reb season, where we won nothing.

He's been a key part of 1 championship team and 1 runner up, and plays maybe the best man post defense of anyone in the NBA. He averaged 10 points and 7 rebounds last season, and he'll be 26 next season. At age 29, Brendan Haywood averaged 9 and 9, and got a 6 year 52 million dollar contract.

Glen Davis is proving that he can increase his previous per minute production with higher minutes. That is an expensive commodity.

8 million dollars per could move either way, but its not outrageous. Now, if you think they won't resign either player in a lockout year, I believe it. But, someone will, at a rate comparable in the new CBA.

Well, at that point in time, Ray Allen would be 37 and KG would be 36 (turning 37 at the end of the season). With the money those guys have made, and the advanced basketball age they would be at, I don't find it that outrageous that they would take the minimum. If they don't for the Celtics, they certainly would for another contender. But if the C's are the best contender, I don't see why they wouldn't. Didn't Karl Malone do it for the Lakers? Didn't Shaq just do it for the Celtics?


Brendan Haywood is overpaid, but he is comparable to Perkins as far as skill level goes. But just because Haywood has a bad contract, does that justify another one? You also didn't mention that, as we all know, Perkins is injured, and he will have to have a great second half of the season to get 8 or 9 million a year. But even when Perkins does come back, I don't see him getting the minutes to prove his worth of that large of a contract (just my personal opinion). And if a team is crazy enough to pay Perkins that much, I do not believe Danny will lose any sleep over it.


Baby has played great thus far. But I still don't think any general managers see him as a starting power forward. How many bench players in this league are making 9 million a year? Davis played similarly in the 08 09 playoffs, and the most he could muster was a modest 2.5 million a year contract from the Celtics. Has his game really improved by 5 million in this time. I think not.