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Re: CB Draft '10 Playoffs Eastern Conference Semi-Finals
« Reply #105 on: September 16, 2010, 03:41:20 PM »

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Call me crazy, but I think Nick might exceed the 300 word max.

Re: CB Draft '10 Playoffs Eastern Conference Semi-Finals
« Reply #106 on: September 16, 2010, 03:50:27 PM »

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Boxes and Bulls

I'm lazy and have been in my own conferences thread all day. Give me no more than 5 bullet points, in under 300 words on why I should vote for your teams

I can do it in 4.

1) LeBron James has dominated Wilson Chandler for both their respective careers. Chandler cannot slow him down, he only makes him better.

2) Brandon Jennings's average over 4 games against Raymond Felton last season was 19.5ppg for Jennings to 9.0ppg for Felton

3) My team has a better or comparable rebounder at every single position on the floor. In the 2 times last season the Bulls and Lakers played, Noah out-rebounded Bynum 20 to 3 and 15 to 8, respectively. Rebounding will be a big issue and Washington will lose that battle.

4) No team has ever beat a LeBon James led squad in the playoffs without an elite defender in the block and a very good wing defender. Orlando had Dwight and Pietrus, Boston had Pierce/Garnett and Perkins...Nick has Bynum/Chandler. Say what you want about LeBron as a person, but those results are just flat out true.

Well done. TP.

I encourage the other East matchup to do the same.

1. Vince Carter cannot defend either Corey Maggette or Rip Hamilton.  In their last meeting Rip went of for 36 points.

2. Gortat will outrebound, and out defend Biedrins. 

3.  The way we run our offense.  Dirk will draw Aldridge away from the paint which opens Maggette up to drive and opens up Gortat to exploit the offensive boards.  At the same Time Dirk will be setting picks for Rip and Kidd will be feeding him for open looks, Tiring out either Vince or Johnson whoever is defending him.  And as i said last time Vince had to defend him Rip went for 36.

4. Dirk is better than Joe Johnson.   While the hawks won a playoff series this year the story of the second round was when is Joe Johnson going to show up.  He averaged only 13 pts per game. 

Meanwhile Dirk who admittedly lost to the spurs in the first round had a monster series with 27 points 8 rbs and 3 apg.
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Re: CB Draft '10 Playoffs Eastern Conference Semi-Finals
« Reply #107 on: September 16, 2010, 03:53:47 PM »

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Nice & Easy. Well done/put

Re: CB Draft '10 Playoffs Eastern Conference Semi-Finals
« Reply #108 on: September 16, 2010, 03:58:50 PM »

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Boxes and Bulls

I'm lazy and have been in my own conferences thread all day. Give me no more than 5 bullet points, in under 300 words on why I should vote for your teams
1. The Bulls are led by a player that has never led a team to a championship and is surrounded by players that are offensively deficient and inefficient.

2. The Bulls have possibly the worst bench in the league and given that they have three of the top 51 highest ranked players in fouls per minute(Noah 51st, Ilyasova 17th, Amundson 11th) they are going to get into foul problems and their bench can't pick up the slack.

3. The Boxers have championship(six NBA championships) experience and veterans that have accomplished great things internationally(Olympic and FIBA gold medals, Euroleague Final Fours MVPs). The Bulls have one championship ring winner, a guy that got benched for the playoffs when his team won the championship(Allen) and are relying heavily on second year players, rookies, and players playing in roles they just are not used to playing in (Ilyasova starting, Amundson as a first big off the bench)

4. Boxers have 5 above average to excellent outside shooters and 4 inside scorers on their team and a better overall balanced attack with ability to go inside or out rather than relying on two players who will dominate the ball 75% of the time.

5. The Boxers have a complete team with clearly defined roles and players in those roles that can accomplish what they are supposed to. The Bulls are relying on your opinion of one player to catapult a seriously, other than that one player, horrible team further.

Re: CB Draft '10 Playoffs Eastern Conference Semi-Finals
« Reply #109 on: September 16, 2010, 04:02:05 PM »

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Call me crazy, but I think Nick might exceed the 300 word max.
HA!!!

Not even 250 words.

Re: CB Draft '10 Playoffs Eastern Conference Semi-Finals
« Reply #110 on: September 16, 2010, 04:03:23 PM »

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Call me crazy, but I think Nick might exceed the 300 word max.
HA!!!

Not even 250 words.

245! TP!

Re: CB Draft '10 Playoffs Eastern Conference Semi-Finals
« Reply #111 on: September 16, 2010, 04:05:11 PM »

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3. The Boxers have championship(six NBA championships) experience and veterans that have accomplished great things internationally(Olympic and FIBA gold medals, Euroleague Final Fours MVPs). The Bulls have one championship ring winner, a guy that got benched for the playoffs when his team won the championship(Allen) and are relying heavily on second year players, rookies, and players playing in roles they just are not used to playing in (Ilyasova starting, Amundson as a first big off the bench)

Question: Do you think that your mere existence in the playoffs, at this stage, proves that Bynum stayed healthy all year?

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like that is always lethal." - Evan 'The God' Turner

Re: CB Draft '10 Playoffs Eastern Conference Semi-Finals
« Reply #112 on: September 16, 2010, 04:08:29 PM »

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3. The Boxers have championship(six NBA championships) experience and veterans that have accomplished great things internationally(Olympic and FIBA gold medals, Euroleague Final Fours MVPs). The Bulls have one championship ring winner, a guy that got benched for the playoffs when his team won the championship(Allen) and are relying heavily on second year players, rookies, and players playing in roles they just are not used to playing in (Ilyasova starting, Amundson as a first big off the bench)

Question: Do you think that your mere existence in the playoffs, at this stage, proves that Bynum stayed healthy all year?
Does the fact that Lebron was the best player on multiple teams that never won a championship make him a great leader? Does being the best at something mean you can lead others?

Re: CB Draft '10 Playoffs Eastern Conference Semi-Finals
« Reply #113 on: September 16, 2010, 04:10:39 PM »

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3. The Boxers have championship(six NBA championships) experience and veterans that have accomplished great things internationally(Olympic and FIBA gold medals, Euroleague Final Fours MVPs). The Bulls have one championship ring winner, a guy that got benched for the playoffs when his team won the championship(Allen) and are relying heavily on second year players, rookies, and players playing in roles they just are not used to playing in (Ilyasova starting, Amundson as a first big off the bench)

Question: Do you think that your mere existence in the playoffs, at this stage, proves that Bynum stayed healthy all year?
Does the fact that Lebron was the best player on multiple teams that never won a championship make him a great leader? Does being the best at something mean you can lead others?

Answer my question. Its a fair one.

Do you believe, that since you have in fact made it to the second round of the playoffs with Bynum as your second best player, that Bynum must have been healthy all season, or else you would not have made it here?

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like that is always lethal." - Evan 'The God' Turner

Re: CB Draft '10 Playoffs Eastern Conference Semi-Finals
« Reply #114 on: September 16, 2010, 04:14:32 PM »

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All these questions. I feel like I'm negotiating with Michael Scott.

Re: CB Draft '10 Playoffs Eastern Conference Semi-Finals
« Reply #115 on: September 16, 2010, 04:17:40 PM »

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All these questions. I feel like I'm negotiating with Michael Scott.


We're going to have to move this to another thread.  you like that im chaging the meeting place at the last minute..
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Re: CB Draft '10 Playoffs Eastern Conference Semi-Finals
« Reply #116 on: September 16, 2010, 04:22:21 PM »

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All these questions. I feel like I'm negotiating with Michael Scott.


We're going to have to move this to another thread.  you like that im chaging the meeting place at the last minute..

hahahahhahahhaah

Re: CB Draft '10 Playoffs Eastern Conference Semi-Finals
« Reply #117 on: September 16, 2010, 04:26:40 PM »

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Question for the Eastern GMs:

Who did you vote for in the West, and how many fake accounts can I expect you to open to vote for Sacramento?


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Re: CB Draft '10 Playoffs Eastern Conference Semi-Finals
« Reply #118 on: September 16, 2010, 04:30:05 PM »

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Okay, Nick is going to dodge that one, which is not surprising.

Here is something to think about:

If Chicago overwhelmingly won the first overall seed, meaning it had the most regular season wins, wouldn't it follow that a lot of these issues worked themselves out over the season?

For instance:

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2. The Bulls have possibly the worst bench in the league and given that they have three of the top 51 highest ranked players in fouls per minute(Noah 51st, Ilyasova 17th, Amundson 11th) they are going to get into foul problems and their bench can't pick up the slack.

3. The Boxers have championship(six NBA championships) experience and veterans that have accomplished great things internationally(Olympic and FIBA gold medals, Euroleague Final Fours MVPs). The Bulls have one championship ring winner, a guy that got benched for the playoffs when his team won the championship(Allen) and are relying heavily on second year players, rookies, and players playing in roles they just are not used to playing in (Ilyasova starting, Amundson as a first big off the bench)

If my squad managed the first overall seed by a VERY healthy margin, wouldn't it follow that these issues (overcoming early foul problems, adjusting to new roles, etc) worked themselves out over the previous 86+ games or so? Remember these playoffs aren't happening in September. Its happening in May, after Ersan Ilyasova and Louis Amundson have spent the entire year in new roles. They must have figured out how to be okay in them, or else the Bulls would not have won so many games.

Basically what I'm saying is that these issues of Nick's (new roles, Ersan's foul-prone tendencies) are issues that would've had to work themselves out, and in a positive manner.

Otherwise why were the Bulls the best team in the conference? They're not going to just suddenly fall apart and forget what they'd been doing during the season, and Nick isn't presenting anything revolutionary. In fact, he's kind of dodging nearly every argument that is challenging him while I'm running around like a chicken wiht my head cut off trying to address issues from GM's who haven't made up their minds.

Fact: LeBron has not ever been beaten in the playoffs by anything other than an utterly elite NBA team, if not the best defensive team in the league.

Fact: You all looked at the other teams in the conference and voted Chicago first. You can say "I didn't believe they were a 1 seed, I had them at 3" or whatever, but the fact is, we finished first, and with a large margin which means we won the most games.

Fact: If this were the real NBA, a lot of the reservations people have about Ersan Ilyasova or Louis Amundson or Mike MIller would have been sorted out, and for the better if this team was a legitimate #1 seed. And, since this team won the #1 seed easily, I don't see a real choice there.

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Re: CB Draft '10 Playoffs Eastern Conference Semi-Finals
« Reply #119 on: September 16, 2010, 04:31:01 PM »

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Question for the Eastern GMs:

Who did you vote for in the West, and how many fake accounts can I expect you to open to vote for Sacramento?

I would certainly hope that no one is cheating in this excercise.
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