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Re: Tyreke Evans busted doing 130 mph
« Reply #105 on: August 03, 2010, 08:16:30 AM »

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Sure, it's stupid.  Evans needs to grow up.  At the same time, a lot of kids do.  I know that in high school, we (four honor students) once took our friend's Camaro out and got it up past 130 (and one of my friends was dumb enough to stick his hand out the sun room and quickly learned what a stupid idea that is).  There weren't any other cars on the road, but it was still a stupid thing to do, and this is supposedly from four of our high school's best and brightest. 

It happens.  Evans should learn from it, and move on.

Hobbs this was a surprising post from you!

Yup I just dont see Hobbs the same anymore

I agree, guys.  Nothing personal, but I was very surprised to see this from him.  I guess I find two guys racing at ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY MILES PER HOUR to be very much over the top of anything normal.  This isn't a couple high schoolers on a back road in the country going 90...  This put a LOT of people in danger and could have had grave consequences.  We decry the death of Malik Sealy because of a drunk driver, but this was foolishness at the same level in broad daylight. 

If someone had been killed we wouldn't brush this off as a couple of "kids" having a little "fun"...  I just can't believe Roy would turn a blind eye to this and was disappointed in seeing what he wrote...

I didn't exactly turn a blind eye to it.  I repeatedly called it stupid, and said it's something that he needs to learn from.  Young people do stupid things, without appreciating the risk of those things.  It doesn't make it right, and Evans should be punished, etc.  However, it should be no surprise that young adults do risky things, and I guess in my old age of 31, I've learned not to judge others too harshly when their wrong-doing comes out of ignorance and inexperience, rather than malice.

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Re: Tyreke Evans busted doing 130 mph
« Reply #106 on: August 03, 2010, 08:45:04 AM »

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I think the fastest I've ever driven a vehicle was 110 - and sure enough I got a ticket for it.

Looking back, I'm glad he did. That Policeman was probably saving my life. I was young and thought I was indestructable back then.

Now, I'm Matured and Indestructible :). The fastest I go now is 70-75.

Hopefully, Tyreke learns from this.
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Re: Tyreke Evans busted doing 130 mph
« Reply #107 on: August 03, 2010, 09:32:30 AM »

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Like I said he will probably never drive that fast again. he was having some fun get off his sack. bottom line u guys are haters driving dodges mad your car cant take a sharp curve at over without almost tipping over

Re: Tyreke Evans busted doing 130 mph
« Reply #108 on: August 03, 2010, 09:37:50 AM »

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Like I said he will probably never drive that fast again. he was having some fun get off his sack. bottom line u guys are haters driving dodges mad your car cant take a sharp curve at over without almost tipping over

Haha - that car I got up to 110 mph in was an Altima ;).

And yes - it was fun to go that fast. I'll never forget it.

I'm just glad I'm still here to type about it. I hated that ticket at the time, but a few years later I'm glad for it.

Re: Tyreke Evans busted doing 130 mph
« Reply #109 on: August 03, 2010, 10:01:53 AM »

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man you can die in a car accident going 55mph or even 25 when its your time its your time save me the horror stories
You seem to have no interest in listening to what others have to say. I would hope that you can figure out the obvious response to your comment.

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Re: Tyreke Evans busted doing 130 mph
« Reply #110 on: August 03, 2010, 10:15:42 AM »

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He's an idiot, plain & simple.  


Do you actually buy that he's not an intelligent human being because he decided to go really fast in his really fast car?

Presumably you like watching young NBA stars play. Well, the fans pay the giant salaries these kids make that bough him that car, so....

All the stone throwing in this thread is absurd. He's a young, rich kid who made a mistake. Off the high horse, team.



Off the high horse?  Are you kidding me?  Do you know how many auto-related fatalities occur every year due to reckless driving?

These are needless statistics that can easily be avoided by exercising common sense.  Something Mr. Evans clearly didn't consider before driving 130 mph.  To me that's plain stupidity in the common sense department.  I don't care if he's young or not.  

Who gives a darn what paid for the car?  That shouldn't have to do with his idiotic decision to drive the car at a reckless speed on a freeway.

yes, high horse. if interested in response please see my previous posts. peace.

Nice dodge there.  ::)

Not sure if you've been directly or indirectly affected by a motor vehicle fatality due to something that could easily have been avoided but that might have you singing a different tune.

No dodge -- I requested that you take a look at my previous posts, which had you done you might have gathered I’ve had a close friend spend a couple of weeks in the hospital following an accident with someone who was too busy yapping on a cellphone to watch Route 24 South. My father is also a senior state police official, so you might say I have a unique perspective on this topic.

Traditional wisdom suggests that “speed kills”. Well, it can depending on how it's deployed. But American roadways have MUCH more pervasive problems. To repeat myself, someone talking on a cellphone, or texting, or eating a burger, or playing a DVD, or reaching in the backseat to discipline their kid(s) – i.e. “distracted driving” -- is far more likely to cause an accident than someone who is speeding. And yet this is something that happens with alarming frequency and acceptance in this country. There are numerous studies that suggest engaging in distracted driving disables the driver as much or more as being drunk. Meanwhile, in most states “reckless driving” – which tends to involve high speed, but not necessarily as a direct coefficient of severity when compared with the car itself, how the car is being operated, who is operating it, and the road conditions in which he or she is operating it – ranks 4th on the list of causes for accidents. Distracted driving ranks 1st by a wide margin.

The simple fact is that most Americans (Masscavities are FAR from an exception) do not take driving seriously. I used the example of Europe, where folks drive considerably faster, but are simply far better, more diligent drivers, resulting in far fewer accidents. Speed certainly increases the likelihood and impact of accidents, but quality of driving is much more significant. Essentially – Are you an idiot for driving fast? Maybe – it really depends on how you drive. Are you an idiot for driving distracted? Yes. Unequivocally. Do more people drive distracted than drive really fast? Yes. Unequivocally.

Thus my disappointment with reading a litany of knee-jerk responses where folks label Tyreke Evans an out-and-out “idiot” for speeding, knowing full well that this hardly ranks in the high annals of stupidity for driving, much less life. Speeding is an American social taboo, as illustrated by the fact that Americans grab hold of our highways passing lanes and won’t let go of them regardless of their need of passing. Americans don’t like other people to go faster than them. When they’re passed, they flash their lights and shake their fists. This lack of respect for your neighbor on the road leads to more traffic, more smog, and frankly more accidents. It goes along with our cultural obsession with property and consumerism -- a sad and disgusting topic for another day. Tyreke took it to a relative extreme, but his driving didn't reflect great recklessness.

Meanwhile, my guess is the % of those here labeling Evans an “idiot” who are guilty of some form of distracted driving on an ongoing basis is likely high – at least 50%. Because over 50% of Americans who drive do so distracted periodically. Distracted driving is far more dangerous and far more common than excessive speeding, and having watched the video carefully it’s clear that what Evans did (driving very fast on a midday, sunny, dry 12 lane highway with limited traffic flow – never really interacting with a single other car on the road -- in an automobile highly capable of handling said speeds without exceeding its mechanical limits) is very low on the list of most dangerous forms of driving. Would I have a problem with it if he did it on 93 south of Boston? Yes – the road sets up very poorly for high speed in layout, road surface and traffic flow. Would I have a problem if he were doing what he was doing while eating a Big Mac? Yes. Would I have a problem if he was doing it in a 1995 Dodge Neon with 150,000 miles? Yes. Would I have a problem with it if he were doing it drunk? Of course. But if not, I refuse to sound like some naïve fool from 1950 insisting that speed kills. Stupid kills, and his driving just wasn’t that stupid.

I’m taking a lot of venom for defending Evans, but I’m trying to make a simple point. What Evans did is not as dangerous as what typical Massaperatures do every day, and the state essentially refuses to address legally in a progressive way. So here’s my request: if you’re going to call Evans -- a 20 year old kid who is a sudden millionaire without a job he has to go to during the daytime, if you see what i'm sayin' -- an unequivocal idiot for the rest of his days for pressing his gas pedal too hard, I’d like you to do precisely the same thing to anyone who is guilty of the forms of distracted driving I laid out, including yourself if applicable. If so, at least the playing field will be slightly level, thought only in concept if not in actual practice. If not, I’m going to continue to tell you that you’re sitting on a high horse, stereotyping something that’s statistically not as dangerous as you suggest, and otherwise throwing stones when presumably you’ve been guilty of doing a stupid thing or two, considering most of us have. Sound fair?
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Re: Tyreke Evans busted doing 130 mph
« Reply #111 on: August 03, 2010, 10:23:14 AM »

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Sure, it's stupid.  Evans needs to grow up.  At the same time, a lot of kids do.  I know that in high school, we (four honor students) once took our friend's Camaro out and got it up past 130 (and one of my friends was dumb enough to stick his hand out the sun room and quickly learned what a stupid idea that is).  There weren't any other cars on the road, but it was still a stupid thing to do, and this is supposedly from four of our high school's best and brightest. 

It happens.  Evans should learn from it, and move on.

Hobbs this was a surprising post from you!

Yup I just dont see Hobbs the same anymore

I agree, guys.  Nothing personal, but I was very surprised to see this from him.  I guess I find two guys racing at ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY MILES PER HOUR to be very much over the top of anything normal.  This isn't a couple high schoolers on a back road in the country going 90...  This put a LOT of people in danger and could have had grave consequences.  We decry the death of Malik Sealy because of a drunk driver, but this was foolishness at the same level in broad daylight. 

If someone had been killed we wouldn't brush this off as a couple of "kids" having a little "fun"...  I just can't believe Roy would turn a blind eye to this and was disappointed in seeing what he wrote...

disagree with a number of points here -- driving 90 on backroads would be far more dangerous for them and others, as would driving drunk or speeding like this at night.
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Re: Tyreke Evans busted doing 130 mph
« Reply #112 on: August 03, 2010, 10:33:53 AM »

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i often wonder why csblog permits these social and / or political threads. the responses tend to be extreme, not particularly thoughtful and highly emotional. it's too easy for folks to get offended.

the leading poster on the blog is having his personal integrity called into quetion because he won't burn a kid at the stake over a speeding ticket? absurd.

i'm certainly guilty of participating, but would be happy to see them gone. maybe we should just keep it to basketball, or basketball and other major sports....
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Re: Tyreke Evans busted doing 130 mph
« Reply #113 on: August 03, 2010, 10:45:00 AM »

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i often wonder why csblog permits these social and / or political threads. the responses tend to be extreme, not particularly thoughtful and highly emotional. it's too easy for folks to get offended.

the leading poster on the blog is having his personal integrity called into quetion because he won't burn a kid at the stake over a speeding ticket? absurd.

i'm certainly guilty of participating, but would be happy to see them gone. maybe we should just keep it to basketball, or basketball and other major sports....

I don't know...I find these threads very interesting. We get a whole range of opinions on celticsblog, it's always educational. I also have no problem with Roy's opinion, or with anyone else who may be surprised by it.

Re: Tyreke Evans busted doing 130 mph
« Reply #114 on: August 03, 2010, 10:49:28 AM »

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So Tyreke Evans doing something really stupid turns into a referendum on auto traffic policy with clearly juxtaposed sides that are miles apart?

Ha.

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Re: Tyreke Evans busted doing 130 mph
« Reply #115 on: August 03, 2010, 10:58:37 AM »

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Sure, it's stupid.  Evans needs to grow up.  At the same time, a lot of kids do.  I know that in high school, we (four honor students) once took our friend's Camaro out and got it up past 130 (and one of my friends was dumb enough to stick his hand out the sun room and quickly learned what a stupid idea that is).  There weren't any other cars on the road, but it was still a stupid thing to do, and this is supposedly from four of our high school's best and brightest. 

It happens.  Evans should learn from it, and move on.

Hobbs this was a surprising post from you!

Yup I just dont see Hobbs the same anymore

I agree, guys.  Nothing personal, but I was very surprised to see this from him.  I guess I find two guys racing at ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY MILES PER HOUR to be very much over the top of anything normal.  This isn't a couple high schoolers on a back road in the country going 90...  This put a LOT of people in danger and could have had grave consequences.  We decry the death of Malik Sealy because of a drunk driver, but this was foolishness at the same level in broad daylight. 

If someone had been killed we wouldn't brush this off as a couple of "kids" having a little "fun"...  I just can't believe Roy would turn a blind eye to this and was disappointed in seeing what he wrote...

I didn't exactly turn a blind eye to it.  I repeatedly called it stupid, and said it's something that he needs to learn from.  Young people do stupid things, without appreciating the risk of those things.  It doesn't make it right, and Evans should be punished, etc.  However, it should be no surprise that young adults do risky things, and I guess in my old age of 31, I've learned not to judge others too harshly when their wrong-doing comes out of ignorance and inexperience, rather than malice.

Hobbs just to clarify, I wasn't judging you for that. It was just a surprising post from you in that I have not seen you make too many posts on the wild side. I never drove too fast personally cause I never had a nice enough car to do that (88 accord 4 cylanders woohoo). I probably would never have gone over a hundred though cause I would be too scared of getting killed or killing someone. 

Re: Tyreke Evans busted doing 130 mph
« Reply #116 on: August 03, 2010, 11:02:04 AM »

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Like I said he will probably never drive that fast again. he was having some fun get off his sack. bottom line u guys are haters driving dodges mad your car cant take a sharp curve at over without almost tipping over

So far in this thread, we have had numerous people making arguments for both sides.  Most of them are well thought-out and respectful of the opinions of others.  Then there's posts like these.

Sorry, but it's really hard to take your point of view seriously when every post you make is basically "Tyreke's so cool and you guys are all losers in your mom's basement."

If you have something to say of any substance whatsoever, we're all ears.

Re: Tyreke Evans busted doing 130 mph
« Reply #117 on: August 03, 2010, 11:12:45 AM »

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No idea what that is in mph, and to be honest, don't care. The point is; I've driven fast, and been driven fast, and it didn't do anything for me but make me feel unsafe and more importantly; I felt like I was in the position where I was not in control.

And I also have a thing against not being in control; I want to be in control at ALL TIMES. I hate not being able to react (fast enough) to anything that might happen. And I especially don't want to hurt others.

This is why I don't drink (unless it's a glass of baileys after going out for a fancy dinner, which is like 4 to 8 times a year) and why I don't do drugs (or smoke for that matter; it's a nuisance to others, including myself).

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« Reply #118 on: August 03, 2010, 11:46:34 AM »

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Sure, it's stupid.  Evans needs to grow up.  At the same time, a lot of kids do.  I know that in high school, we (four honor students) once took our friend's Camaro out and got it up past 130 (and one of my friends was dumb enough to stick his hand out the sun room and quickly learned what a stupid idea that is).  There weren't any other cars on the road, but it was still a stupid thing to do, and this is supposedly from four of our high school's best and brightest. 

It happens.  Evans should learn from it, and move on.

Hobbs this was a surprising post from you!

Yup I just dont see Hobbs the same anymore

I agree, guys.  Nothing personal, but I was very surprised to see this from him.  I guess I find two guys racing at ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY MILES PER HOUR to be very much over the top of anything normal.  This isn't a couple high schoolers on a back road in the country going 90...  This put a LOT of people in danger and could have had grave consequences.  We decry the death of Malik Sealy because of a drunk driver, but this was foolishness at the same level in broad daylight. 

If someone had been killed we wouldn't brush this off as a couple of "kids" having a little "fun"...  I just can't believe Roy would turn a blind eye to this and was disappointed in seeing what he wrote...

disagree with a number of points here -- driving 90 on backroads would be far more dangerous for them and others, as would driving drunk or speeding like this at night.

ALL are equally wrong & equally dangerous...  Which was my point, so I'm glad you took the "bait."  I wrote that sentence ("in the country going 90") because I wanted to see if people would start making comparisons.

I would believe that two cars speeding on a busy interstate in broad daylight at 130 with numerous vehicles surrounding them, not knowing if they should swerve or just stay put in their lane is EQUALLY as stupid as a couple of teens drag racing late at night on back roads at 90, not knowing if a car might be heading their direction with a family going home from the movies is EQUALLY as stupid as a drunk driving home at 65, not knowing if someone heading home from work might be obeying the laws and going through a green light while the drunk runs a red light...

I don't buy the "he's young and immature" stuff...  Even I knew in my early 20's that something like that could kill someone.  But since Tyreke is a basketball player, with all the elitist athlete entitlements, he's allowed to write it off as a "simple mistake."

It's a slippery slope, and a dangerous one when we start making allowances based upon your status as an NBA player...

I guess you can count me in the minority who says this kid should have been thrown in jail and then face the judgment of David Stern who makes him do some community service / awareness.  If he were playing in the NFL this would have been handled differently, and WE might even look at it differently...
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Re: Tyreke Evans busted doing 130 mph
« Reply #119 on: August 03, 2010, 11:59:17 AM »

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I guess you can count me in the minority who says this kid should have been thrown in jail and then face the judgment of David Stern who makes him do some community service / awareness.  If he were playing in the NFL this would have been handled differently, and WE might even look at it differently...

I've heard a couple of people say the NFL would've dealt with this harshly, but are there any instances of an NFL player actually getting suspended just for speeding?  I can't find anything through Google, except that Adrian Peterson got a ticket for 109 in a 55 last year and didn't get suspended.  A few players got suspensions after arrests for speeding + DUI/marijuana possession, but that's presumably for the substance violation.

I don't think there's enough evidence to say the NFL would've treated this any differently.
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