NCAA College Football 2010

[Fafnir]

My point was that you have the individual conference match up data in those two sites, and that even when just taking the good teams from the MAC/WAC doesn't support your ideas.

But continue to cherry pick what few games you choose to rant about how the BCS conferences are inferior, I'll leave you be.

[Eja117]

My point was that you have the individual conference match up data in those two sites, and that even when just taking the good teams from the MAC/WAC doesn't support your ideas.

But continue to cherry pick what few games you choose to rant about how the BCS conferences are inferior, I'll leave you be.

I checked the web site further and you were completely right about the WAC. They were dominatedin every which way.

The MTW stacked up pretty favorably going back to about 2004 against pretty much every conference, except surprisingly the Big 10 had them beat pretty good.

I guess I would definitely say I will continue to cherry pick games that involve ranked teams and bowl games. Like the big important games between good teams. I admit I'm more interested in the results between Boise St and Virginia Tech with big implications that I am in Colorado vs Colorado St.

I'm also pretty interested in the losses against 1-AA teams by teams that just went to 2 Cotton Bowls. I think these games demonstrate my points pretty well.

[Donoghus]

Games of interest to me this weekend.  A much better slate than last week, IMO. And we still had an exciting weekend of football.

Miami @ Ohio St.-  The ultimate "revenge" game for Miami fans.  No one will forget the '03 Fiesta Bowl.  7 1/2 years later, the Canes get another shot although this game is being played in the Horseshoe.

Penn State @ Alabama- Two traditional college powers going head to head. It'll be interesting to see if Penn State's offense can get anything going in enemy territory.

Michigan @ Notre Dame- Both looked rather decent in last weekend's openers.   To me, I'm looking at this game to gauge exactly where Notre Dame is at.

[Moranis]

And if BSU makes it to the title game, and beats a team that did go through all those other teams, how is that not satisfying?

If BSU makes it to the title game and wins, I think any argument about them being on a lower tier / not having paid their dues goes away.  The problem is, what happens if BSU makes it to the title game and gets clobbered?

If BSU makes it there and gets clobbered, it basically kills the chance of any mid-major ever getting there again, until there is a playoff.  But I think at some point, some team needs to be given that chance to prove that mid-majors can run with the big boys, just so a direction can be chosen.

BTW, I hated the way the BCS dealt with it last year by putting BSU and TCU against each other.  To me, it was clear that they did not want to open the discussion that would have started had one of those teams (or both of them) beaten teams from the big conferences, so they chickened out, and basically made it a mid-majors championship.  

I hated the whole BSU/TCU matchup as well.  I thought it was a major cop-out.

Blame the Fiesta Bowl, that is the matchup it selected.

Title was Bama (SEC) v Texas (Big 12)
Rose is always Big Ten v Pac Ten (unless in title game) so it had Ohio State v. Oregon
orange always has the ACC champion which was Georgia Tech

Since Bama was #1 the Sugar got first selection to replace Bama and went with Florida
Since Texas was #2 and no other Big 12 were eligible (generally the bowls that lose designated champs take a second team from that same conference), the Fiesta selected Texas Christian (who was the highest ranked team available and was in the fiesta's general footprint)

That left three open spots, Orange had first, Fiesta, then Sugar

The Orange wanted the huge draw and ticket seller so it took Iowa.  The Fiesta then could have taken Cincinnati (The Big East champ) or an at large.  The Fiesta took Boise State rather then Cincinnati.  You would have to ask the Fiesta Bowl Committee why they did that, as I think most people would have rather seen TCU v. UC (which would have been 3 v 4), which would have left Boise against Florida in the Sugar.

[Donoghus]

And if BSU makes it to the title game, and beats a team that did go through all those other teams, how is that not satisfying?

If BSU makes it to the title game and wins, I think any argument about them being on a lower tier / not having paid their dues goes away.  The problem is, what happens if BSU makes it to the title game and gets clobbered?

If BSU makes it there and gets clobbered, it basically kills the chance of any mid-major ever getting there again, until there is a playoff.  But I think at some point, some team needs to be given that chance to prove that mid-majors can run with the big boys, just so a direction can be chosen.

BTW, I hated the way the BCS dealt with it last year by putting BSU and TCU against each other.  To me, it was clear that they did not want to open the discussion that would have started had one of those teams (or both of them) beaten teams from the big conferences, so they chickened out, and basically made it a mid-majors championship.  

I hated the whole BSU/TCU matchup as well.  I thought it was a major cop-out.

Blame the Fiesta Bowl, that is the matchup it selected.

Title was Bama (SEC) v Texas (Big 12)
Rose is always Big Ten v Pac Ten (unless in title game) so it had Ohio State v. Oregon
orange always has the ACC champion which was Georgia Tech

Since Bama was #1 the Sugar got first selection to replace Bama and went with Florida
Since Texas was #2 and no other Big 12 were eligible (generally the bowls that lose designated champs take a second team from that same conference), the Fiesta selected Texas Christian (who was the highest ranked team available and was in the fiesta's general footprint)

That left three open spots, Orange had first, Fiesta, then Sugar

The Orange wanted the huge draw and ticket seller so it took Iowa.  The Fiesta then could have taken Cincinnati (The Big East champ) or an at large.  The Fiesta took Boise State rather then Cincinnati.  You would have to ask the Fiesta Bowl Committee why they did that, as I think most people would have rather seen TCU v. UC (which would have been 3 v 4), which would have left Boise against Florida in the Sugar.

Oh, I'm well aware of the bowl selection process.  I don't need to be educated on that. 

I just think the fact the two non-BCS teams got squared up against each other was a joke.  The Fiesta did what the Fiesta did but I'm left to wonder if there was any other influence there.

[nickagneta]

And if BSU makes it to the title game, and beats a team that did go through all those other teams, how is that not satisfying?

If BSU makes it to the title game and wins, I think any argument about them being on a lower tier / not having paid their dues goes away.  The problem is, what happens if BSU makes it to the title game and gets clobbered?

If BSU makes it there and gets clobbered, it basically kills the chance of any mid-major ever getting there again, until there is a playoff.  But I think at some point, some team needs to be given that chance to prove that mid-majors can run with the big boys, just so a direction can be chosen.

BTW, I hated the way the BCS dealt with it last year by putting BSU and TCU against each other.  To me, it was clear that they did not want to open the discussion that would have started had one of those teams (or both of them) beaten teams from the big conferences, so they chickened out, and basically made it a mid-majors championship.  

I hated the whole BSU/TCU matchup as well.  I thought it was a major cop-out.

Blame the Fiesta Bowl, that is the matchup it selected.

Title was Bama (SEC) v Texas (Big 12)
Rose is always Big Ten v Pac Ten (unless in title game) so it had Ohio State v. Oregon
orange always has the ACC champion which was Georgia Tech

Since Bama was #1 the Sugar got first selection to replace Bama and went with Florida
Since Texas was #2 and no other Big 12 were eligible (generally the bowls that lose designated champs take a second team from that same conference), the Fiesta selected Texas Christian (who was the highest ranked team available and was in the fiesta's general footprint)

That left three open spots, Orange had first, Fiesta, then Sugar

The Orange wanted the huge draw and ticket seller so it took Iowa.  The Fiesta then could have taken Cincinnati (The Big East champ) or an at large.  The Fiesta took Boise State rather then Cincinnati.  You would have to ask the Fiesta Bowl Committee why they did that, as I think most people would have rather seen TCU v. UC (which would have been 3 v 4), which would have left Boise against Florida in the Sugar.

Oh, I'm well aware of the bowl selection process.  I don't need to be educated on that. 

I just think the fact the two non-BCS teams got squared up against each other was a joke.  The Fiesta did what the Fiesta did but I'm left to wonder if there was any other influence there.

I have two of my very best friends that are in the business of college athletics(a sports information director and an assistant athletic director, both at major DI schools), let me tell you something Dons, college athletics is a dirty business. If you suspect inside dirty influences that pushed to non BCS teams into competing with each other, you are probably correct. That's pretty much the way the dirty underside of college sports works.

[Eja117]

And if BSU makes it to the title game, and beats a team that did go through all those other teams, how is that not satisfying?

If BSU makes it to the title game and wins, I think any argument about them being on a lower tier / not having paid their dues goes away.  The problem is, what happens if BSU makes it to the title game and gets clobbered?

If BSU makes it there and gets clobbered, it basically kills the chance of any mid-major ever getting there again, until there is a playoff.  But I think at some point, some team needs to be given that chance to prove that mid-majors can run with the big boys, just so a direction can be chosen.

BTW, I hated the way the BCS dealt with it last year by putting BSU and TCU against each other.  To me, it was clear that they did not want to open the discussion that would have started had one of those teams (or both of them) beaten teams from the big conferences, so they chickened out, and basically made it a mid-majors championship.  

I hated the whole BSU/TCU matchup as well.  I thought it was a major cop-out.

Blame the Fiesta Bowl, that is the matchup it selected.

Title was Bama (SEC) v Texas (Big 12)
Rose is always Big Ten v Pac Ten (unless in title game) so it had Ohio State v. Oregon
orange always has the ACC champion which was Georgia Tech

Since Bama was #1 the Sugar got first selection to replace Bama and went with Florida
Since Texas was #2 and no other Big 12 were eligible (generally the bowls that lose designated champs take a second team from that same conference), the Fiesta selected Texas Christian (who was the highest ranked team available and was in the fiesta's general footprint)

That left three open spots, Orange had first, Fiesta, then Sugar

The Orange wanted the huge draw and ticket seller so it took Iowa.  The Fiesta then could have taken Cincinnati (The Big East champ) or an at large.  The Fiesta took Boise State rather then Cincinnati.  You would have to ask the Fiesta Bowl Committee why they did that, as I think most people would have rather seen TCU v. UC (which would have been 3 v 4), which would have left Boise against Florida in the Sugar.

Oh, I'm well aware of the bowl selection process.  I don't need to be educated on that. 

I just think the fact the two non-BCS teams got squared up against each other was a joke.  The Fiesta did what the Fiesta did but I'm left to wonder if there was any other influence there.

I have two of my very best friends that are in the business of college athletics(a sports information director and an assistant athletic director, both at major DI schools), let me tell you something Dons, college athletics is a dirty business. If you suspect inside dirty influences that pushed to non BCS teams into competing with each other, you are probably correct. That's pretty much the way the dirty underside of college sports works.

Ewww. Yeah I'd believe that. I find this to be the most believable post of the year. Darn it.

[Rondo2287]

Anybody else see this?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx0pTIDb-r0

[Moranis]

And if BSU makes it to the title game, and beats a team that did go through all those other teams, how is that not satisfying?

If BSU makes it to the title game and wins, I think any argument about them being on a lower tier / not having paid their dues goes away.  The problem is, what happens if BSU makes it to the title game and gets clobbered?

If BSU makes it there and gets clobbered, it basically kills the chance of any mid-major ever getting there again, until there is a playoff.  But I think at some point, some team needs to be given that chance to prove that mid-majors can run with the big boys, just so a direction can be chosen.

BTW, I hated the way the BCS dealt with it last year by putting BSU and TCU against each other.  To me, it was clear that they did not want to open the discussion that would have started had one of those teams (or both of them) beaten teams from the big conferences, so they chickened out, and basically made it a mid-majors championship.  

I hated the whole BSU/TCU matchup as well.  I thought it was a major cop-out.

Blame the Fiesta Bowl, that is the matchup it selected.

Title was Bama (SEC) v Texas (Big 12)
Rose is always Big Ten v Pac Ten (unless in title game) so it had Ohio State v. Oregon
orange always has the ACC champion which was Georgia Tech

Since Bama was #1 the Sugar got first selection to replace Bama and went with Florida
Since Texas was #2 and no other Big 12 were eligible (generally the bowls that lose designated champs take a second team from that same conference), the Fiesta selected Texas Christian (who was the highest ranked team available and was in the fiesta's general footprint)

That left three open spots, Orange had first, Fiesta, then Sugar

The Orange wanted the huge draw and ticket seller so it took Iowa.  The Fiesta then could have taken Cincinnati (The Big East champ) or an at large.  The Fiesta took Boise State rather then Cincinnati.  You would have to ask the Fiesta Bowl Committee why they did that, as I think most people would have rather seen TCU v. UC (which would have been 3 v 4), which would have left Boise against Florida in the Sugar.

Oh, I'm well aware of the bowl selection process.  I don't need to be educated on that. 

I just think the fact the two non-BCS teams got squared up against each other was a joke.  The Fiesta did what the Fiesta did but I'm left to wonder if there was any other influence there.

I don't beleive there was any undue influence or presure, I'm sure they felt that was the best game for them and frankly it was a [dang] good game and Cincinnati got destroyed so maybe they made the right call.

[Roy H.]

Good news for Boise St.:  Miami is currently leading #2 Ohio St.

Bad news for Boise St.:  Virginia Tech just lost to James Madison (!!)

[nickagneta]

And if BSU makes it to the title game, and beats a team that did go through all those other teams, how is that not satisfying?

If BSU makes it to the title game and wins, I think any argument about them being on a lower tier / not having paid their dues goes away.  The problem is, what happens if BSU makes it to the title game and gets clobbered?

If BSU makes it there and gets clobbered, it basically kills the chance of any mid-major ever getting there again, until there is a playoff.  But I think at some point, some team needs to be given that chance to prove that mid-majors can run with the big boys, just so a direction can be chosen.

BTW, I hated the way the BCS dealt with it last year by putting BSU and TCU against each other.  To me, it was clear that they did not want to open the discussion that would have started had one of those teams (or both of them) beaten teams from the big conferences, so they chickened out, and basically made it a mid-majors championship.  

I hated the whole BSU/TCU matchup as well.  I thought it was a major cop-out.

Blame the Fiesta Bowl, that is the matchup it selected.

Title was Bama (SEC) v Texas (Big 12)
Rose is always Big Ten v Pac Ten (unless in title game) so it had Ohio State v. Oregon
orange always has the ACC champion which was Georgia Tech

Since Bama was #1 the Sugar got first selection to replace Bama and went with Florida
Since Texas was #2 and no other Big 12 were eligible (generally the bowls that lose designated champs take a second team from that same conference), the Fiesta selected Texas Christian (who was the highest ranked team available and was in the fiesta's general footprint)

That left three open spots, Orange had first, Fiesta, then Sugar

The Orange wanted the huge draw and ticket seller so it took Iowa.  The Fiesta then could have taken Cincinnati (The Big East champ) or an at large.  The Fiesta took Boise State rather then Cincinnati.  You would have to ask the Fiesta Bowl Committee why they did that, as I think most people would have rather seen TCU v. UC (which would have been 3 v 4), which would have left Boise against Florida in the Sugar.

Oh, I'm well aware of the bowl selection process.  I don't need to be educated on that. 

I just think the fact the two non-BCS teams got squared up against each other was a joke.  The Fiesta did what the Fiesta did but I'm left to wonder if there was any other influence there.

I don't beleive there was any undue influence or presure, I'm sure they felt that was the best game for them and frankly it was a [dang] good game and Cincinnati got destroyed so maybe they made the right call.

I do. The BCS conferences have huge sway over the bowl selection committees because of the way they can negotiate where they place their teams for automatic berths to bowls. If neither Florida nor Cincinnati wanted to face the controversial, non-BCS conference BSU and made that very clear to their conferences and the bowl selection committees, you can bet the Fiesta decided to put together two non-BCS conference teams in their game for one year than force the issue and ruin the long term relationship with the SEC or Big East, which would be much more costly in the political world behind the scenes than having the game they did.

[nickagneta]

This Boston College game is about to put me to sleep it's so boring. Are you kidding me Eagles? 3-0 nearing the half!!!!

[GreenFaith1819]

Wow - VA Tech just lost, again .

Right now, I feel like this guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocV5bGHdYag

Apologize for the language - thought it was a funny clip.

[nickagneta]

Boston College might have one of the best linebacking corps in the country.

[Moranis]

Now my beloved Buckeyes can put it on cruise control until October 16 at Wisconsin.  Then they have the three big ones in November Penn State, at Iowa, Michigan in consecutive weeks.  They clearly have the ability to run the table though.  Big win today against Miami.