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Now that the Knicks stole Amare, should the Suns blow it up and trade Nash?

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Re: Should the Suns trade Nash? (Poll)
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2010, 09:34:26 PM »

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They may be a playoff team, but are they ok with just getting knocked out in the first round? With Amare gone they are in some serious trouble.

Richardson comes off the books next year, Nash has two years left on his deal. They have some good young talent, Frye, Dudley, Lopez, Dragic, I would start building around these guys now. Nash is going to be 36, he can still be a HUGE piece on a contending team. (except the fact that Steve cant even spell Defense) Hes owed 10 Mil this year and almost 12 next, I would think a team would be willing to pick of his contract for a title push.

I completely agree with how attractive of a piece Nash would be to a contending team.  Imagine him on Atlanta or wherever Lebron goes!  But if you're Phoenix, what do you want in return for him?  I can't think of any type of deal that you would trade him for.  Any team that would have good rebuilding chips to deal away aren't contending, so wouldn't want Nash.  I also can't think of too many competing teams that do have good chips to trade away.  I voted no.

Now i'm just throwing this out there for argument sake. What about Orlando? They can offer Nelson and Pietrus. The suns get some young pieces back and can start to rebuild.

How about Portland? Nash, Roy and Aldridge would be one heck of a big 3. They have some young pieces to move.
I just think there are teams that could offer a pretty decent package.

What do you guys think?

Nice, I like the ideas, I'll bounce back some feedback.  Although I said I don't think there is an offer out there, I'm very intrigued to prove that statement wrong and find one.

Nelson and Pietrus?  Hmm.  They are both very good complimentary pieces on a team, but I don't know if I'd trade Nash for them.  If I'm trading Nash, I need a player that I can build a franchise around.  Would Orlando even do it? 

Portland is definitely one of those teams that could use Nash.  What do you think they could offer? 

I don't think you can get a player that you can build around back for Nash. Maybe a very nice project guy.

Portland almost has to include Andre Miller just to make the salary work. Would Portland give up a Miller/Rudy/Bayless? OR how about Miller/Rudy and Batum? I know Portland is Very high on Batum so who knows what they would be willing to offer.

Would It be worth trying to get Oden away from the blazers. IF he ever pans out Lopez/Oden could be quite the Duo.

Definitely do it for Oden.  Does Portland?

I wouldn't. Then again I'm still wicked high on him. I expect Portland to be a big time team next year with their size, length and B Roy.

Do you think Nash can get them past the Lakers? If yes then you do it. I think its as simple as that. What do you think Nash has 2 great years left in him?

If Oden can become the player the Blazers thought he could then of course you keep him.

Nash
Roy
Batum or Rudy
Aldridge
Camby

Thats a very solid starting unit. Can you get the pieces around that unit to make it work is a completely different argument.



No, I think Oden with Miller at PG knock the Lakers out actually.

Length, size, off guard perimeter defense and scoring is the blue print to beating the Lakers. Nash helps you in one of those categories.

Good Point. I don't think with a healthy Oden the Blazers get past the Lakers. I don't think you can win a whole lot with Andre Miller. I'm just not a believer in his game.

Re: Should the Suns trade Nash? (Poll)
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2010, 09:36:54 PM »

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They may be a playoff team, but are they ok with just getting knocked out in the first round? With Amare gone they are in some serious trouble.

Richardson comes off the books next year, Nash has two years left on his deal. They have some good young talent, Frye, Dudley, Lopez, Dragic, I would start building around these guys now. Nash is going to be 36, he can still be a HUGE piece on a contending team. (except the fact that Steve cant even spell Defense) Hes owed 10 Mil this year and almost 12 next, I would think a team would be willing to pick of his contract for a title push.

I completely agree with how attractive of a piece Nash would be to a contending team.  Imagine him on Atlanta or wherever Lebron goes!  But if you're Phoenix, what do you want in return for him?  I can't think of any type of deal that you would trade him for.  Any team that would have good rebuilding chips to deal away aren't contending, so wouldn't want Nash.  I also can't think of too many competing teams that do have good chips to trade away.  I voted no.

Now i'm just throwing this out there for argument sake. What about Orlando? They can offer Nelson and Pietrus. The suns get some young pieces back and can start to rebuild.

How about Portland? Nash, Roy and Aldridge would be one heck of a big 3. They have some young pieces to move.
I just think there are teams that could offer a pretty decent package.

What do you guys think?

Nice, I like the ideas, I'll bounce back some feedback.  Although I said I don't think there is an offer out there, I'm very intrigued to prove that statement wrong and find one.

Nelson and Pietrus?  Hmm.  They are both very good complimentary pieces on a team, but I don't know if I'd trade Nash for them.  If I'm trading Nash, I need a player that I can build a franchise around.  Would Orlando even do it? 

Portland is definitely one of those teams that could use Nash.  What do you think they could offer? 

I don't think you can get a player that you can build around back for Nash. Maybe a very nice project guy.

Portland almost has to include Andre Miller just to make the salary work. Would Portland give up a Miller/Rudy/Bayless? OR how about Miller/Rudy and Batum? I know Portland is Very high on Batum so who knows what they would be willing to offer.

Would It be worth trying to get Oden away from the blazers. IF he ever pans out Lopez/Oden could be quite the Duo.

Definitely do it for Oden.  Does Portland?

I wouldn't. Then again I'm still wicked high on him. I expect Portland to be a big time team next year with their size, length and B Roy.

Do you think Nash can get them past the Lakers? If yes then you do it. I think its as simple as that. What do you think Nash has 2 great years left in him?

If Oden can become the player the Blazers thought he could then of course you keep him.

Nash
Roy
Batum or Rudy
Aldridge
Camby

Thats a very solid starting unit. Can you get the pieces around that unit to make it work is a completely different argument.



No, I think Oden with Miller at PG knock the Lakers out actually.

Length, size, off guard perimeter defense and scoring is the blue print to beating the Lakers. Nash helps you in one of those categories.

Good Point. I don't think with a healthy Oden the Blazers get past the Lakers. I don't think you can win a whole lot with Andre Miller. I'm just not a believer in his game.
Andre Miller is a liability for Portland. His lack of shooting is going to become a far larger issue once Oden comes back.

Portland's chances of winning a title would be much improved if they moved Miller. I would love to see Portland add Jose Calderon.

Re: Should the Suns trade Nash? (Poll)
« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2010, 09:41:09 PM »

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Calderon would be a great pick up for the Blazers. How about a guy like Felton? His jump shot is streaky but he can put up some good numbers.

Re: Should the Suns trade Nash? (Poll)
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2010, 09:43:51 PM »

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Nash is the perfect PG for the Suns system...He has showed that with his two MVP awards and turning guys like Marion and Amare into all stars. They should keep him around, no other point guards would be able to run the system like he can.

Re: Should the Suns trade Nash? (Poll)
« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2010, 09:52:58 PM »

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I still think Amare is underrated. When he is going, he is SO good. Everybody keeps talking about Bosh as the best big man this offseason, but I think many of them are just unfamiliar with west coast basketball...

So, in short, obviously they should trade Nash and a Jameer Nelson/Pietrus combo or Devin Harris/draft pick would be a very good deal for them.

This same conversation is going to be coming up in a couple of years for the Celtics with Paul Pierce- just a thought.

Re: Should the Suns trade Nash? (Poll)
« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2010, 09:58:38 PM »

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I still think Amare is underrated. When he is going, he is SO good. Everybody keeps talking about Bosh as the best big man this offseason, but I think many of them are just unfamiliar with west coast basketball...

So, in short, obviously they should trade Nash and a Jameer Nelson/Pietrus combo or Devin Harris/draft pick would be a very good deal for them.

This same conversation is going to be coming up in a couple of years for the Celtics with Paul Pierce- just a thought.

If I were the suns I would do both of those deals. With Amare gone its time to move on. Get young and try to rebuild through the draft.

Re: Should the Suns trade Nash? (Poll)
« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2010, 10:39:32 PM »

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They may be a playoff team, but are they ok with just getting knocked out in the first round? With Amare gone they are in some serious trouble.

Richardson comes off the books next year, Nash has two years left on his deal. They have some good young talent, Frye, Dudley, Lopez, Dragic, I would start building around these guys now. Nash is going to be 36, he can still be a HUGE piece on a contending team. (except the fact that Steve cant even spell Defense) Hes owed 10 Mil this year and almost 12 next, I would think a team would be willing to pick of his contract for a title push.

I completely agree with how attractive of a piece Nash would be to a contending team.  Imagine him on Atlanta or wherever Lebron goes!  But if you're Phoenix, what do you want in return for him?  I can't think of any type of deal that you would trade him for.  Any team that would have good rebuilding chips to deal away aren't contending, so wouldn't want Nash.  I also can't think of too many competing teams that do have good chips to trade away.  I voted no.

Now i'm just throwing this out there for argument sake. What about Orlando? They can offer Nelson and Pietrus. The suns get some young pieces back and can start to rebuild.

How about Portland? Nash, Roy and Aldridge would be one heck of a big 3. They have some young pieces to move.
I just think there are teams that could offer a pretty decent package.

What do you guys think?

Nice, I like the ideas, I'll bounce back some feedback.  Although I said I don't think there is an offer out there, I'm very intrigued to prove that statement wrong and find one.

Nelson and Pietrus?  Hmm.  They are both very good complimentary pieces on a team, but I don't know if I'd trade Nash for them.  If I'm trading Nash, I need a player that I can build a franchise around.  Would Orlando even do it? 

Portland is definitely one of those teams that could use Nash.  What do you think they could offer? 

I don't think you can get a player that you can build around back for Nash. Maybe a very nice project guy.

Portland almost has to include Andre Miller just to make the salary work. Would Portland give up a Miller/Rudy/Bayless? OR how about Miller/Rudy and Batum? I know Portland is Very high on Batum so who knows what they would be willing to offer.

Would It be worth trying to get Oden away from the blazers. IF he ever pans out Lopez/Oden could be quite the Duo.

Definitely do it for Oden.  Does Portland?

I wouldn't. Then again I'm still wicked high on him. I expect Portland to be a big time team next year with their size, length and B Roy.

Do you think Nash can get them past the Lakers? If yes then you do it. I think its as simple as that. What do you think Nash has 2 great years left in him?

If Oden can become the player the Blazers thought he could then of course you keep him.

Nash
Roy
Batum or Rudy
Aldridge
Camby

Thats a very solid starting unit. Can you get the pieces around that unit to make it work is a completely different argument.



No, I think Oden with Miller at PG knock the Lakers out actually.

Length, size, off guard perimeter defense and scoring is the blue print to beating the Lakers. Nash helps you in one of those categories.

Good Point. I don't think with a healthy Oden the Blazers get past the Lakers. I don't think you can win a whole lot with Andre Miller. I'm just not a believer in his game.
Andre Miller is a liability for Portland. His lack of shooting is going to become a far larger issue once Oden comes back.

Portland's chances of winning a title would be much improved if they moved Miller. I would love to see Portland add Jose Calderon.

The Blazers are much better off with Miller than Calderon.  Miller is a much better player.  What the Blazers should have done is not signed Miller at all and kept Steve Blake.
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Re: Should the Suns trade Nash? (Poll)
« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2010, 11:56:28 PM »

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They may be a playoff team, but are they ok with just getting knocked out in the first round? With Amare gone they are in some serious trouble.

Richardson comes off the books next year, Nash has two years left on his deal. They have some good young talent, Frye, Dudley, Lopez, Dragic, I would start building around these guys now. Nash is going to be 36, he can still be a HUGE piece on a contending team. (except the fact that Steve cant even spell Defense) Hes owed 10 Mil this year and almost 12 next, I would think a team would be willing to pick of his contract for a title push.

I completely agree with how attractive of a piece Nash would be to a contending team.  Imagine him on Atlanta or wherever Lebron goes!  But if you're Phoenix, what do you want in return for him?  I can't think of any type of deal that you would trade him for.  Any team that would have good rebuilding chips to deal away aren't contending, so wouldn't want Nash.  I also can't think of too many competing teams that do have good chips to trade away.  I voted no.

Now i'm just throwing this out there for argument sake. What about Orlando? They can offer Nelson and Pietrus. The suns get some young pieces back and can start to rebuild.

How about Portland? Nash, Roy and Aldridge would be one heck of a big 3. They have some young pieces to move.
I just think there are teams that could offer a pretty decent package.

What do you guys think?

Nice, I like the ideas, I'll bounce back some feedback.  Although I said I don't think there is an offer out there, I'm very intrigued to prove that statement wrong and find one.

Nelson and Pietrus?  Hmm.  They are both very good complimentary pieces on a team, but I don't know if I'd trade Nash for them.  If I'm trading Nash, I need a player that I can build a franchise around.  Would Orlando even do it? 

Portland is definitely one of those teams that could use Nash.  What do you think they could offer? 

I don't think you can get a player that you can build around back for Nash. Maybe a very nice project guy.

Portland almost has to include Andre Miller just to make the salary work. Would Portland give up a Miller/Rudy/Bayless? OR how about Miller/Rudy and Batum? I know Portland is Very high on Batum so who knows what they would be willing to offer.

Would It be worth trying to get Oden away from the blazers. IF he ever pans out Lopez/Oden could be quite the Duo.

Definitely do it for Oden.  Does Portland?

I wouldn't. Then again I'm still wicked high on him. I expect Portland to be a big time team next year with their size, length and B Roy.

Do you think Nash can get them past the Lakers? If yes then you do it. I think its as simple as that. What do you think Nash has 2 great years left in him?

If Oden can become the player the Blazers thought he could then of course you keep him.

Nash
Roy
Batum or Rudy
Aldridge
Camby

Thats a very solid starting unit. Can you get the pieces around that unit to make it work is a completely different argument.



No, I think Oden with Miller at PG knock the Lakers out actually.

Length, size, off guard perimeter defense and scoring is the blue print to beating the Lakers. Nash helps you in one of those categories.

Good Point. I don't think with a healthy Oden the Blazers get past the Lakers. I don't think you can win a whole lot with Andre Miller. I'm just not a believer in his game.
Andre Miller is a liability for Portland. His lack of shooting is going to become a far larger issue once Oden comes back.

Portland's chances of winning a title would be much improved if they moved Miller. I would love to see Portland add Jose Calderon.

The Blazers are much better off with Miller than Calderon.  Miller is a much better player.  What the Blazers should have done is not signed Miller at all and kept Steve Blake.
Why the dislike for Calderon? What makes Steve Blake a better option than Jose?

I agree the Blazers shouldn't have moved Blake for Miller though. Blake, although the inferior player, was the better fit for that team. Miller's strengths are minimized by the Blazers main players (Roy, Aldridge, Oden) and his weaknesses are highlighted (shooting ability) whereas Blake's game fit in perfectly (shooting, decision making, comfortable taking back seat to Roy's playmaking).

Re: Should the Suns trade Nash? (Poll)
« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2010, 12:36:10 AM »

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They may be a playoff team, but are they ok with just getting knocked out in the first round? With Amare gone they are in some serious trouble.

Richardson comes off the books next year, Nash has two years left on his deal. They have some good young talent, Frye, Dudley, Lopez, Dragic, I would start building around these guys now. Nash is going to be 36, he can still be a HUGE piece on a contending team. (except the fact that Steve cant even spell Defense) Hes owed 10 Mil this year and almost 12 next, I would think a team would be willing to pick of his contract for a title push.

I completely agree with how attractive of a piece Nash would be to a contending team.  Imagine him on Atlanta or wherever Lebron goes!  But if you're Phoenix, what do you want in return for him?  I can't think of any type of deal that you would trade him for.  Any team that would have good rebuilding chips to deal away aren't contending, so wouldn't want Nash.  I also can't think of too many competing teams that do have good chips to trade away.  I voted no.

Now i'm just throwing this out there for argument sake. What about Orlando? They can offer Nelson and Pietrus. The suns get some young pieces back and can start to rebuild.

How about Portland? Nash, Roy and Aldridge would be one heck of a big 3. They have some young pieces to move.
I just think there are teams that could offer a pretty decent package.

What do you guys think?

Nice, I like the ideas, I'll bounce back some feedback.  Although I said I don't think there is an offer out there, I'm very intrigued to prove that statement wrong and find one.

Nelson and Pietrus?  Hmm.  They are both very good complimentary pieces on a team, but I don't know if I'd trade Nash for them.  If I'm trading Nash, I need a player that I can build a franchise around.  Would Orlando even do it? 

Portland is definitely one of those teams that could use Nash.  What do you think they could offer? 

I don't think you can get a player that you can build around back for Nash. Maybe a very nice project guy.

Portland almost has to include Andre Miller just to make the salary work. Would Portland give up a Miller/Rudy/Bayless? OR how about Miller/Rudy and Batum? I know Portland is Very high on Batum so who knows what they would be willing to offer.

Would It be worth trying to get Oden away from the blazers. IF he ever pans out Lopez/Oden could be quite the Duo.

Definitely do it for Oden.  Does Portland?

I wouldn't. Then again I'm still wicked high on him. I expect Portland to be a big time team next year with their size, length and B Roy.

Do you think Nash can get them past the Lakers? If yes then you do it. I think its as simple as that. What do you think Nash has 2 great years left in him?

If Oden can become the player the Blazers thought he could then of course you keep him.

Nash
Roy
Batum or Rudy
Aldridge
Camby

Thats a very solid starting unit. Can you get the pieces around that unit to make it work is a completely different argument.



No, I think Oden with Miller at PG knock the Lakers out actually.

Length, size, off guard perimeter defense and scoring is the blue print to beating the Lakers. Nash helps you in one of those categories.

Good Point. I don't think with a healthy Oden the Blazers get past the Lakers. I don't think you can win a whole lot with Andre Miller. I'm just not a believer in his game.
Andre Miller is a liability for Portland. His lack of shooting is going to become a far larger issue once Oden comes back.

Portland's chances of winning a title would be much improved if they moved Miller. I would love to see Portland add Jose Calderon.

The Blazers are much better off with Miller than Calderon.  Miller is a much better player.  What the Blazers should have done is not signed Miller at all and kept Steve Blake.
Why the dislike for Calderon? What makes Steve Blake a better option than Jose?

I agree the Blazers shouldn't have moved Blake for Miller though. Blake, although the inferior player, was the better fit for that team. Miller's strengths are minimized by the Blazers main players (Roy, Aldridge, Oden) and his weaknesses are highlighted (shooting ability) whereas Blake's game fit in perfectly (shooting, decision making, comfortable taking back seat to Roy's playmaking).

Jose is trash lol.  Idk I just don't think he's a championship caliber point guard where as I believe that Steve Blake and Andre Miller could be.
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