Author Topic: Could it be...  (Read 3311 times)

0 Members and 0 Guests are viewing this topic.

Could it be...
« on: June 27, 2010, 01:07:11 AM »

Offline Kenhov

  • Luke Garza
  • Posts: 96
  • Tommy Points: 17
that if Luke Harangody shows the ability to play in this league that the Celtics will safer trade Big Baby away ? Is he Big Baby lite, being prepped for the trade scenarios to come ?

One trade idea I like is Sheed + Big Baby for Chris Kaman.

Kaman is a solid player with potential even now to improve.

The Clippers get to clear more cap to add in someone like Rudy Gay.


Re: Could it be...
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2010, 01:21:17 AM »

Offline GrandTheftRondo

  • Don Chaney
  • *
  • Posts: 1952
  • Tommy Points: 167
No.

Re: Could it be...
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2010, 01:33:16 AM »

Offline beantownboy171

  • Jayson Tatum
  • Posts: 911
  • Tommy Points: 70
No.
i'm not sure its fair to dismiss it so quickly that harangody could provide something similar to what bbd provides. But to the OP. I don't think we'll be able to learn if harangody is that guy, while we can still use sheeds contract. its going to take more time.

Re: Could it be...
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2010, 02:11:27 AM »

Offline Bahku

  • CB HOF Editor
  • Bill Sharman
  • *******************
  • Posts: 19771
  • Tommy Points: 3632
  • Oe ma krr pamtseotu
that if Luke Harangody shows the ability to play in this league that the Celtics will safer trade Big Baby away ? Is he Big Baby lite, being prepped for the trade scenarios to come ?

One trade idea I like is Sheed + Big Baby for Chris Kaman.

Kaman is a solid player with potential even now to improve.

The Clippers get to clear more cap to add in someone like Rudy Gay.



How can you trade a player that's retired? (Which is what Sheed says he's doing). Even if he wasn't, no way the Clips would make that trade, and I want Big Baby as a Celtic ... we need his energy and hard-work in the post. I would love Kaman in green, but it doesn't work for either side financially, even if Sheed was sticking around.
2010 PAPOUG, 2012 & 2017 PAPTYG CHAMP, HD BOT

* BAHKU MUSIC *

Re: Could it be...
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2010, 02:30:40 AM »

Offline dpaps

  • Jaylen Brown
  • Posts: 682
  • Tommy Points: 88
that if Luke Harangody shows the ability to play in this league that the Celtics will safer trade Big Baby away ? Is he Big Baby lite, being prepped for the trade scenarios to come ?

One trade idea I like is Sheed + Big Baby for Chris Kaman.

Kaman is a solid player with potential even now to improve.

The Clippers get to clear more cap to add in someone like Rudy Gay.



How can you trade a player that's retired? (Which is what Sheed says he's doing). Even if he wasn't, no way the Clips would make that trade, and I want Big Baby as a Celtic ... we need his energy and hard-work in the post. I would love Kaman in green, but it doesn't work for either side financially, even if Sheed was sticking around.



Sheed hasn't filed his retirement papers in order to allow the celtics to trade him and get some value. He will then represent cap room for the team that trades for him because they will then reach a buy out, or he will simply retire after traded. As of right now, sheed is just another player and can be traded as so. A very classy move by Sheed, I must say.

Re: Could it be...
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2010, 04:27:53 AM »

Offline jarufu

  • Jaylen Brown
  • Posts: 536
  • Tommy Points: 123
From Bill Simmons' draft diary thingy ..

"5:09: Just found out that Rasheed Wallace is definitely retiring. Gotta say, I respect Sheed for knowing when to call it quits … and then waiting two more years, getting two more paychecks, and finally calling it quits.

(Follow-up note: Apparently he's doing one last noble act, not filing his retirement papers right away so the Celtics can trade his cap figure for another player … which, ironically, gives him real value to teams looking to dump payroll and/or get under the tax. This reminds me of a dying Darth Vader being nice to Luke Skywalker at the end of "Return of the Jedi." I don't know where this is coming from, but thank you, Darth!)"
Stay classy, San Diego. Hello, Baxter? Baxter, is that you? Bark twice if you're in Milwaukee. Is this Wilt Chamberlain? Have the decency to say something.

Re: Could it be...
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2010, 05:12:41 AM »

Offline lon3lytoaster

  • Antoine Walker
  • ****
  • Posts: 4608
  • Tommy Points: 157
  • Word aapp!
From Bill Simmons' draft diary thingy ..

"5:09: Just found out that Rasheed Wallace is definitely retiring. Gotta say, I respect Sheed for knowing when to call it quits … and then waiting two more years, getting two more paychecks, and finally calling it quits.

(Follow-up note: Apparently he's doing one last noble act, not filing his retirement papers right away so the Celtics can trade his cap figure for another player … which, ironically, gives him real value to teams looking to dump payroll and/or get under the tax. This reminds me of a dying Darth Vader being nice to Luke Skywalker at the end of "Return of the Jedi." I don't know where this is coming from, but thank you, Darth!)"

Andris Biedrins, please!

Re: Could it be...
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2010, 06:44:55 AM »

Offline greenhead85

  • Jayson Tatum
  • Posts: 783
  • Tommy Points: 36
From Bill Simmons' draft diary thingy ..

"5:09: Just found out that Rasheed Wallace is definitely retiring. Gotta say, I respect Sheed for knowing when to call it quits … and then waiting two more years, getting two more paychecks, and finally calling it quits.

(Follow-up note: Apparently he's doing one last noble act, not filing his retirement papers right away so the Celtics can trade his cap figure for another player … which, ironically, gives him real value to teams looking to dump payroll and/or get under the tax. This reminds me of a dying Darth Vader being nice to Luke Skywalker at the end of "Return of the Jedi." I don't know where this is coming from, but thank you, Darth!)"

Andris Biedrins, please!

He's expensive. Not cost efficient for the franchise and current management. I guess what we need to address that big hole in the middle is to acquire a veteran big who can bang bodies in the middle, knock down medium range jumpshots and make throw downs with ease.

To the OP, I thought so that it could be that Harangody might be the contigency plan if BBD is indeed being moved to make a much needed acquisition. I cant help but compare the similarities of their style of play, built and moves to the basket. Luke though has a much better jump shot and is quicker.

Re: Could it be...
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2010, 06:46:19 AM »

Offline lon3lytoaster

  • Antoine Walker
  • ****
  • Posts: 4608
  • Tommy Points: 157
  • Word aapp!
From Bill Simmons' draft diary thingy ..

"5:09: Just found out that Rasheed Wallace is definitely retiring. Gotta say, I respect Sheed for knowing when to call it quits … and then waiting two more years, getting two more paychecks, and finally calling it quits.

(Follow-up note: Apparently he's doing one last noble act, not filing his retirement papers right away so the Celtics can trade his cap figure for another player … which, ironically, gives him real value to teams looking to dump payroll and/or get under the tax. This reminds me of a dying Darth Vader being nice to Luke Skywalker at the end of "Return of the Jedi." I don't know where this is coming from, but thank you, Darth!)"

Andris Biedrins, please!

He's expensive. Not cost efficient for the franchise and current management. I guess what we need to address that big hole in the middle is to acquire a veteran big who can bang bodies in the middle, knock down medium range jumpshots and make throw downs with ease.

To the OP, I thought so that it could be that Harangody might be the contigency plan if BBD is indeed being moved to make a much needed acquisition. I cant help but compare the similarities of their style of play, built and moves to the basket. Luke though has a much better jump shot and is quicker.

Just as soon as we can get someone like you mentioned for Rasheed or the MLE, you let me know.

Re: Could it be...
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2010, 10:49:52 AM »

Offline FrDrake

  • Derrick White
  • Posts: 412
  • Tommy Points: 43
This is a much better idea than Jermaine O'Neil.  Since folks are already quoting the SG, he usually comments favorably on Kamen's game, which he obviously sees as a Clipper season ticket holder.

It could create an issue resigning Perk.  If you give Perk a raise in the department of 7-9 million per, then you have a guy making more on the bench.

Re: Could it be...
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2010, 08:00:08 PM »

Offline Chris

  • Global Moderator
  • Dennis Johnson
  • ******************
  • Posts: 18008
  • Tommy Points: 643
I think they can trade Baby for the right package...but Harangody has little to do with it.

Re: Could it be...
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2010, 08:36:14 PM »

Offline jr_3421

  • Jayson Tatum
  • Posts: 861
  • Tommy Points: 81
I think people who want to trade BBD are really undervaluing his role on this team. In a addition to being highly skilled, he is, despite his height, a relatively versatile big. His strength allows him to match up with taller players but he has has the foot speed to guard the stretch 4s. Plus BBD plays well in big moments and is clutch which is something you just can't teach. He also brings the most energy to our frontcourt. Harangody is more of a 3/4 so I doubt he be able to do the same things as BBD.

I know he gives us headaches with his immature behavior but the fact is he a young player and will mature. I believe he is an ideal back up big who we should try to hold on to until money becomes a factor.
"In the 4th quarter I'm whole different player"

-Paul Pierce