Jermaine Oneal?

[FrDrake]

...and don't forget, to top off the bad attitude and terrible offense, the guy runs and jumps like his shoes are full of cement.

[Papatrichs]

This is just me but even when he was in Indiana I don't see him as an overpowering center. Maybe because Shaq/Duncan was still in their prime then so the bar was high. If he came into the league in the latter part of the decade when the Dwights came in maybe I can see him that way. I somewho see/saw him as an underachiever. But hey it's just me.

[SCBirdman]

This guy is finished. Bad injuries,not heart,no hustle, he's definetely no Celtics material.

and people said Ray Allen wouldn't/couldn't play defense and was finished as a player when we traded for him.

Oneal is the best option available. He is younger than Shaq, Wallace, Miller, etc... and he is significantly more talented offensively and is suited for our system.

O'Neal would conform to the locker room. With  guys like KG, Ray and Paul, he would have his last shot at winning a title.

Plus, if Perk is only out until Jan or Feb, then O'Neal goes to the bench when Perk comes back and it increases our front court depth. O'Neal can block shots and can get his own shot.

I just think he is the best option, by far. He certainly is no Rasheed Wallace. Hell, the Fakers took Artest and he basically won the title for them in game 7. I am for taking him. I watched him and KG play HS ball in SC and coached him in summer camps. Make the deal!

[Meadowlark_Scal]

Even this year Oneal had a bad attitude..and not really much game. But one thing sticks out, why do people say backup Center, we now do not have a starting center, and if sheed retires......? Perk may be out all year ya know..!

[Bankshot]

O'Neal didn't play well in the playoffs because he was injured (and didn't complain about it).  But his numbers were fine in the regular season before his injury.  I'd take him.

[Jon]

O'Neal didn't play well in the playoffs because he was injured (and didn't complain about it).  But his numbers were fine in the regular season before his injury.  I'd take him.

Also, when you consider that (if things go well) he wouldn't even have to be a starter come playoff time, I think we'd be in good shape. 

[Who]

O'Neal did not play well in the postseason because Miami gave him the ball and asked him to create his own shot on a regular basis. Something they avoided for most of the season.

Something O'Neal is very poor at, a liability at the best of times, and a massive liability when he is going against the low post defender in the league (Perkins).

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The horrific thought of Jermaine joining the Celtics is that the same thing will happen here. We all saw how many times Glen Davis tried to create their own shot + how desperate the Celtics want a low post scorer. Add in Jermaine's lack of perception over his current abilities, the thoughts of him still being a capable scorer and potentially a dominant player and you have a horrific mix. He'll definitely get the ball and he'll waste a number of offensive possessions.

I don't want anything to do with Jermaine because of the Celtics offense and his shot-happy ways. Too large of a negative offensively.

On another note, Jermaine O'Neal is only a slightly above average defender + slightly below average rebounder. If he is making a negative impact offensively, then he is incapable of making a positive contribution to his team. That makes him a negative contributor on a team like the Celtics.

[Jon]

O'Neal did not play well in the postseason because Miami gave him the ball and asked him to create his own shot on a regular basis. Something they avoided for most of the season.

Something O'Neal is very poor at, a liability at the best of times, and a massive liability when he is going against the low post defender in the league (Perkins).

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The horrific thought of Jermaine joining the Celtics is that the same thing will happen here. We all saw how many times Glen Davis tried to create their own shot + how desperate the Celtics want a low post scorer. Add in Jermaine's lack of perception over his current abilities, the thoughts of him still being a capable scorer and potentially a dominant player and you have a horrific mix. He'll definitely get the ball and he'll waste a number of offensive possessions.

I don't want anything to do with Jermaine because of the Celtics offense and his shot-happy ways. Too large of a negative offensively.

On another note, Jermaine O'Neal is only a slightly above average defender + slightly below average rebounder. If he is making a negative impact offensively, then he is incapable of making a positive contribution to his team. That makes him a negative contributor on a team like the Celtics.

Still, at this point, we're getting into the "beggars can't be choosers" area of things.  While I agree that he's not perfect, he's better than Shelden Williams and Brian Scalabrine.  And if we can't land Miller, Shaq, or someone like them, he might be our best option.

More importantly, while he's flawed, if Perk does get back by playoff time, he'd be a very nice backup center. 

[SCBirdman]

O'Neal did not play well in the postseason because Miami gave him the ball and asked him to create his own shot on a regular basis. Something they avoided for most of the season.

Something O'Neal is very poor at, a liability at the best of times, and a massive liability when he is going against the low post defender in the league (Perkins).

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The horrific thought of Jermaine joining the Celtics is that the same thing will happen here. We all saw how many times Glen Davis tried to create their own shot + how desperate the Celtics want a low post scorer. Add in Jermaine's lack of perception over his current abilities, the thoughts of him still being a capable scorer and potentially a dominant player and you have a horrific mix. He'll definitely get the ball and he'll waste a number of offensive possessions.

I don't want anything to do with Jermaine because of the Celtics offense and his shot-happy ways. Too large of a negative offensively.

On another note, Jermaine O'Neal is only a slightly above average defender + slightly below average rebounder. If he is making a negative impact offensively, then he is incapable of making a positive contribution to his team. That makes him a negative contributor on a team like the Celtics.

Jermaine O'Neal or Brad Miller- I'll take JO every time. It's not like we have that many options. The only way we get someone else is via S&T with Sheed's contract. We also want to lure Mike Miller, but only have MLE.

[Finkelskyhook]

Jermaine O'Neal or Brad Miller- I'll take JO every time.


Based on what?  Miller at least shows up and plays hard instead of playing when he feels like playing...(Strangely, O'Neal showed up most of the time in the last year of his contract) 

I guess if O'Neal got signed to a one year contract he might just show up for more than 45 games....maybe.  Then with O'Neal there's the whole attitude thing...

Miller brings a lot more positive.  Great passer and brings a little of the nastiness that will be missing with Perk out.

[pmayor]

The celtics need someone who fill fit in as a starter and a bench center No getting by dwight howard if we have to double team him. Jermaine Oneal would fit in nicely because he can block shots as a defender really well and can rebound. Offensively he makes open shots and in the celtics offense he could possibly get a lot of chances. Perk is too slow when getting the ball to go up with rondo and kg excellent passing jermaine could go for 20 all dunks and lay ups. Wouldnt be a great bench player to slow no energy.

[winsomme]

he made 23 million last year. Is that the most insane thing you have ever heard?

anyway, I would think he's looking for more than the MLE. Not sure if he'll get it, but bigs are pretty hard to find so...

[snively]

JO used to be such a fantastic defensive player.  It's a shame he's always viewed himself as a scorer.

[jbowen]

I completely hate and despise Jermaine O'Neal! Ever since the '02 world championships where he didn't even try coming off an allstar year he put up a monster 7.3 ppg and 4.5 rpg.
The Miami series this year was so sweet mainly because he played so absolutely terrible.
You can't spell JOKE without JO! 

[the_Bird]

I'd take Jermaine as a back-up center, temporary fill in for Perk if we couldn't get Shaq, Miller, Chandler, etc.

You'd have to keep listing about fifteen or twenty more available big men before you got me to agree to JO.

Hell, I think I'd rather get Bill Russell out of retirement - he and JO have just about the same level of athleticism these days.