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Re: Confused By Danny's Picks
« Reply #30 on: June 25, 2010, 01:08:54 AM »

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Re: Confused By Danny's Picks
« Reply #31 on: June 25, 2010, 01:11:52 AM »

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"I can see the handwriting on the wall..." - Brian Scalabrine, following the drafting of Luke Harangody

(Okay...so I made that up, but it does sound about right.) :)

See, you can imply things without directly stating anything relating to race ;)
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Re: Confused By Danny's Picks
« Reply #32 on: June 25, 2010, 01:12:54 AM »

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Harangody is 100 times the player anyone on this blog is.  I'd actually be shocked if there was a single person on this blog that played D1.  But I suppose it is easier to push a keyboard and comment on how awful someone is or what they look like than actually go out and work to achieve a dream of getting a free education or paid to play professional basketball.

Anyways, I'm not a fan of either pick, but we could have done worse.  Danny's drafts are usually hit or miss with a decent rotation player though so its always a wait and see.

Re: Confused By Danny's Picks
« Reply #33 on: June 25, 2010, 01:14:11 AM »

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Harangody is 100 times the player anyone on this blog is.  I'd actually be shocked if there was a single person on this blog that played D1.  But I suppose it is easier to push a keyboard and comment on how awful someone is or what they look like than actually go out and work to achieve a dream of getting a free education or paid to play professional basketball.

Anyways, I'm not a fan of either pick, but we could have done worse.  Danny's drafts are usually hit or miss with a decent rotation player though so its always a wait and see.

Yeah, I was waiting for this post to show up...
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Re: Confused By Danny's Picks
« Reply #34 on: June 25, 2010, 01:16:20 AM »

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Harangody is 100 times the player anyone on this blog is.  I'd actually be shocked if there was a single person on this blog that played D1.  But I suppose it is easier to push a keyboard and comment on how awful someone is or what they look like than actually go out and work to achieve a dream of getting a free education or paid to play professional basketball.

Anyways, I'm not a fan of either pick, but we could have done worse.  Danny's drafts are usually hit or miss with a decent rotation player though so its always a wait and see.

So the fact that the guy is a lot better than me at basketball means I should be okay that Danny picked him over somebody who I feel probably has a lot more potential?

Geeze, talk about setting the bar low.
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Re: Confused By Danny's Picks
« Reply #35 on: June 25, 2010, 01:17:14 AM »

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Willie Warren and Stanley Robinson were still on the board at 52 and Danny took Luke Harangody?  Really?  Two players projected to go as high as late first round and Danny took a guy who some thought might not be drafted at all?  A fat, undersized white PF?

Ugh...gonna need somebody to explain the reasoning behind both of the Celtics' picks for me.  I really just don't get it.

  Maybe they were projected to go in the 1st round the same way Gerald Green was projected to go #3. How many players taken after the Celts pick do you think will be good enough to contribute to a title contender? Unless the answer is more than zero, there's nothing to explain.

Re: Confused By Danny's Picks
« Reply #36 on: June 25, 2010, 01:19:40 AM »

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I'm a huge UConn fan, and I've watched at least 2/3 of Stanley Robinson's games as a college player.  God love him - I know I certainly do (he's supposed to be a great kid) - Stanley is still quite a ways away from being a sure-thing NBA player.  He's great for at least one incredible highlight sportcenter-type moment a game, but he's also a player who hasn't figured out how to consistently make his own scoring opportunities.  He drifts in and out of games, not a quality that endears a coach to a likely bench player.  There's a part of me that would have loved seeing him finishing on the break with Rondo, and Lord knows he would have had some incredible dunks on a consistent basis, but as far as being a consistent scoring threat, Stanley hasn't really pulled it together, which is disappointing.  I will be pulling for him to do so with the Magic, as far as that doesn't conflict with being a Celtics fan.  He's a great kid and I wish him well.  


As for Luke, this kid can ball.  I know that his game won't seamlessly transfer to the NBA - clearly it won't, or he wouldn't have fallen this far - but, haven’t watched UConn suffer at his hand multiple times (and watching a lot of Big East hoops in general) I can say with no reservations that he is a true basketball player, skill-wise.  He can shoot lights out and was a volume scorer his entire college career.  He's a real battler and he's a leader.  Considering where he was taken, I think he could be a pleasant surprise, similar in some ways to Baby, another player with an unconventional NBAl body.  

Re: Confused By Danny's Picks
« Reply #37 on: June 25, 2010, 01:19:59 AM »

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Avery at 19 is decent. I think he slipped a bit in the draft and was supposed to go anywhere from 11-15. So not a bad pick-up. He has a lot of potential and some great NBA skills. He is not who I was hoping for, but he is a good pick at 19. I was more distressed with the second round. I would have much rather picked up Robinson.
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Re: Confused By Danny's Picks
« Reply #38 on: June 25, 2010, 01:26:23 AM »

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Willie Warren and Stanley Robinson were still on the board at 52 and Danny took Luke Harangody?  Really?  Two players projected to go as high as late first round and Danny took a guy who some thought might not be drafted at all?  A fat, undersized white PF?

Ugh...gonna need somebody to explain the reasoning behind both of the Celtics' picks for me.  I really just don't get it.

  Maybe they were projected to go in the 1st round the same way Gerald Green was projected to go #3. How many players taken after the Celts pick do you think will be good enough to contribute to a title contender? Unless the answer is more than zero, there's nothing to explain.

I highly doubt Harangody will contribute whether or not the Celtics somehow manage to put together a title contender next season.  His game, if he really has any, must necessarily overlap way too much with Glen Davis for him to get significant playing time.

This was just a typical draft for Danny...take two players who don't have a clear position.  What is it with Danny and tweeners?
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Re: Confused By Danny's Picks
« Reply #39 on: June 25, 2010, 01:27:20 AM »

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(Wow ... do Kentucky have the fastest-talking players in the world, or what? Wall sounds EXACTLY like Rondo! Anyway ... )

Before everyone gets their undies in a bunch about the draft picks Danny made, you have to remember this: With Danny, it is NEVER as it seems!

He has a plan ... always does, and I guarantee you it goes far beyond this draft, and to assume that he's going to actually keep these guys, would be very premature.

This is the same stuff we talk about every year, and the same "What the heck is Danny doing?" threads that saturate the blogs. Very little of the concern actually pans out.

I would suggest taking it easy for the meantime, and let Danny's plan unfold ... this is a guy who knows what he's doing, and while he's made a few mistakes in the past, his overall "Big Picture" usually ends up being referred to in much more positive terms.

Get confused and anxious and upset if you wish, but at this point, caution and patience are the more advisable modes to adopt, and have a little faith in the fact that the guys at the top know what they're doing, get paid good money to do so, and have an ultimate plan that they're not about to share with the world.

They also know much more about these players than we do, and may know things about them that go far beyond what's on the surface.

Either way, I'm not worried ... and I'll personally keep my trust in the powers that be, who have given us a Championship and what should have been a championship, all within the space of three years.

Danny and the "boys" have worked magic on the scale of "genius" before ... for now I'll sit back, relax, have a cold, frosty one, and watch what unfolds over the summer. ;)
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Re: Confused By Danny's Picks
« Reply #40 on: June 25, 2010, 01:28:11 AM »

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Re: Confused By Danny's Picks
« Reply #41 on: June 25, 2010, 01:30:29 AM »

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Willie Warren and Stanley Robinson were still on the board at 52 and Danny took Luke Harangody?  Really?  Two players projected to go as high as late first round and Danny took a guy who some thought might not be drafted at all?  A fat, undersized white PF?

Ugh...gonna need somebody to explain the reasoning behind both of the Celtics' picks for me.  I really just don't get it.

  Maybe they were projected to go in the 1st round the same way Gerald Green was projected to go #3. How many players taken after the Celts pick do you think will be good enough to contribute to a title contender? Unless the answer is more than zero, there's nothing to explain.

I highly doubt Harangody will contribute whether or not the Celtics somehow manage to put together a title contender next season.  His game, if he really has any, must necessarily overlap way too much with Glen Davis for him to get significant playing time.

This was just a typical draft for Danny...take two players who don't have a clear position.  What is it with Danny and tweeners?

  I also doubt that he'll contribute to a title contender. But the question was, who (out of the players drafted after him) *will* be that good next year?

  Oh, and the Celts don't have to put together a title contender. They already are one.

Re: Confused By Danny's Picks
« Reply #42 on: June 25, 2010, 01:38:28 AM »

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Re: Confused By Danny's Picks
« Reply #43 on: June 25, 2010, 01:41:40 AM »

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Willie Warren and Stanley Robinson were still on the board at 52 and Danny took Luke Harangody?  Really?  Two players projected to go as high as late first round and Danny took a guy who some thought might not be drafted at all?  A fat, undersized white PF?

Ugh...gonna need somebody to explain the reasoning behind both of the Celtics' picks for me.  I really just don't get it.

  Maybe they were projected to go in the 1st round the same way Gerald Green was projected to go #3. How many players taken after the Celts pick do you think will be good enough to contribute to a title contender? Unless the answer is more than zero, there's nothing to explain.

I highly doubt Harangody will contribute whether or not the Celtics somehow manage to put together a title contender next season.  His game, if he really has any, must necessarily overlap way too much with Glen Davis for him to get significant playing time.

This was just a typical draft for Danny...take two players who don't have a clear position.  What is it with Danny and tweeners?

  I also doubt that he'll contribute to a title contender. But the question was, who (out of the players drafted after him) *will* be that good next year?

  Oh, and the Celts don't have to put together a title contender. They already are one.

I guess that's where we disagree. 

In any case, what I'm saying is not that Stanley Robinson or Warren or Samhan or whoever would necessarily have been better than Luke Harangody...just that they might actually fill a role for us even if they were only as good because we already have a player who is exactly like Harangody.  You can't play Glen Davis and Luke Harangody together. 

On the other hand, if all we get out of Stanley Robinson is a Jamario Moon type alley-oop, fast-break-dunk, and wide-open-spot-up-jumper player, we can use that.
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Re: Confused By Danny's Picks
« Reply #44 on: June 25, 2010, 01:51:58 AM »

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(Wow ... do Kentucky have the fastest-talking players in the world, or what? Wall sounds EXACTLY like Rondo! Anyway ... )

Before everyone gets their undies in a bunch about the draft picks Danny made, you have to remember this: With Danny, it is NEVER as it seems!

He has a plan ... always does, and I guarantee you it goes far beyond this draft, and to assume that he's going to actually keep these guys, would be very premature.

This is the same stuff we talk about every year, and the same "What the heck is Danny doing?" threads that saturate the blogs. Very little of the concern actually pans out.

I would suggest taking it easy for the meantime, and let Danny's plan unfold ... this is a guy who knows what he's doing, and while he's made a few mistakes in the past, his overall "Big Picture" usually ends up being referred to in much more positive terms.

Get confused and anxious and upset if you wish, but at this point, caution and patience are the more advisable modes to adopt, and have a little faith in the fact that the guys at the top know what they're doing, get paid good money to do so, and have an ultimate plan that they're not about to share with the world.

They also know much more about these players than we do, and may know things about them that go far beyond what's on the surface.

Either way, I'm not worried ... and I'll personally keep my trust in the powers that be, who have given us a Championship and what should have been a championship, all within the space of three years.

Danny and the "boys" have worked magic on the scale of "genius" before ... for now I'll sit back, relax, have a cold, frosty one, and watch what unfolds over the summer. ;)



TP, Bahku, the voice of reason and tranquility, for giving some perspective to this and calming me down after my panicked "Magic jumping over us thread." I needed that. All things come to he who waits.