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Should it be a flagrant foul?
« on: June 07, 2010, 01:16:55 PM »

Offline chenaren

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Should it be a flagrant foul?

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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2010, 01:18:36 PM »

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Could be - glad it wasn't though.  Hard playoff foul.  Also glad that Perk didn't take the bait, it's obvious the Lakers are trying to get that tech on him.
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« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2010, 01:20:10 PM »

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During action I thought it was.  But I quickly changed my mind after seeing the replay.
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Re: Should it be a flagrant foul?
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2010, 01:22:56 PM »

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Perk was already off-balance when contact was made, so I'd say no.  There was nothing above-and-beyond about that play.
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Re: Should it be a flagrant foul?
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2010, 01:25:41 PM »

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Quote from: Kwhit10 on June 07, 2010, 01:20:10 PM
During action I thought it was.  But I quickly changed my mind after seeing the replay.


Agreed. Side note, that might be the worst form on a push I have ever seen.
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« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2010, 02:58:06 PM »

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No.

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Re: Should it be a flagrant foul?
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2010, 03:00:09 PM »

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Do you think Gasol is tired of being called soft?  ;D
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« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2010, 03:09:31 PM »

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Quote from: Kwhit10 on June 07, 2010, 01:20:10 PM
During action I thought it was.  But I quickly changed my mind after seeing the replay.
Same here.  Seeing live action I just about left my seat.  Seeing the replay, I changed my mind and was as calm as a summer's morning.
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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2010, 03:13:58 PM »

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Quote from: ACF on June 07, 2010, 03:00:09 PM
Do you think Gasol is tired of being called soft?  ;D

That's exactly what I was thinking.  Not really a flagrant though.
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« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2010, 03:18:26 PM »

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Neh, it was a pretty clean intentional foul...he just got Perk off balance (or Perk took a dive).  I have to say though, I was very impressed by Perk not getting up and getting a tech.  I thought for sure he was going to get up and push Gasol back.  Very good self control there.
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« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2010, 03:27:54 PM »

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Quote from: Chris on June 07, 2010, 03:18:26 PM
Neh, it was a pretty clean intentional foul...he just got Perk off balance (or Perk took a dive).  I have to say though, I was very impressed by Perk not getting up and getting a tech.  I thought for sure he was going to get up and push Gasol back.  Very good self control there.

I'm in agreement with everyone here.  THought it was worse than it was when I first saw it, but not that bad.  Happy with Perk's (non) response to the foul.  Just trotted to the FT line.

OTOH, you have to wonder what would have happened if it the positions were reversed.  Would that have been a flagrant on KP?  Who knows.  At this point, who cares. 

Let's get the Cs to win 3 more, preferably all in Boston.
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Re: Should it be a flagrant foul?
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2010, 03:37:07 PM »

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Quote from: Cman on June 07, 2010, 03:27:54 PM
Quote from: Chris on June 07, 2010, 03:18:26 PM
Neh, it was a pretty clean intentional foul...he just got Perk off balance (or Perk took a dive).  I have to say though, I was very impressed by Perk not getting up and getting a tech.  I thought for sure he was going to get up and push Gasol back.  Very good self control there.

I'm in agreement with everyone here.  THought it was worse than it was when I first saw it, but not that bad.  Happy with Perk's (non) response to the foul.  Just trotted to the FT line.

OTOH, you have to wonder what would have happened if it the positions were reversed.  Would that have been a flagrant on KP?  Who knows.  At this point, who cares. 

Let's get the Cs to win 3 more, preferably all in Boston.

I think it depends on the refs.  It were the same refs, I don't think it would have been a flagrant.  If it were someone like Joey Crawford, who has a quicker trigger, it would have been a flagrant, whether it was Perk or Gasol.
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Re: Should it be a flagrant foul?
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2010, 03:45:47 PM »

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clearly gasol was trying to bait perk into getting that tech...but if it had been reversed, perk would have been hit with a flag foul..the refs tend to protect gasol in this series. he gets a lot of calls and doesn't get called for too much so far
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« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2010, 03:55:44 PM »

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Quote from: celticinorlando on June 07, 2010, 03:45:47 PM
clearly gasol was trying to bait perk into getting that tech...but if it had been reversed, perk would have been hit with a flag foul..the refs tend to protect gasol in this series. he gets a lot of calls and doesn't get called for too much so far

I don't think he was trying to bait him, I think he was just trying to make sure the foul got called, so they could send Perk to the line, instead of a better shooter. 
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« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2010, 03:56:36 PM »

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if it is, its the off hand shoving the body and not making a play. I think perk just took a flop though
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