In order to prove its integrity, the NBA must suspend Dwight Howard

[FatjohnReturns]

Yeah it is was biased. I usually dont complain about the refs but seriously. Also the personal fouls they were giving to Perkins and Rasheed were ridiculous.

[Birdbrain]

And the block where he pushes Rajon out of the way as he's falling.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_803lThcscg

Where was the push? Howard just landed on him.

 

So many victims.

You are tough and never make excuses and the better team always wins and the refs don't influence the game and ..

[Finkelskyhook]

In order to prove its integrity, the NBA must suspend Dwight Howard

 

You're talking about the same NBA where the messiah can start just past half court and dunk without a dribble?  Where he is almost never gets called for a foul and never a technical?

The same NBA where Paul Pierce can upfake, barrel straight into a defender going straight up and get two free throws?

The same NBA where Steve Nash and Dwyane Wade travel about 80% of the time they have the ball?

The same NBA where the biggest player in the NBA can change pivot feet in the post 2-3 times and no official notices?

You're kidding, right?


This league hasn't had integrity since the Jordan rules were established.

[vinnie]

Howard pushes Rondo in the back with both hands. Amazing.

[Birdbrain]

In order to prove its integrity, the NBA must suspend Dwight Howard

 

You're talking about the same NBA where the messiah can start just past half court and dunk without a dribble?  Where he is almost never gets called for a foul and never a technical?

The same NBA where Paul Pierce can upfake, barrel straight into a defender going straight up and get two free throws?

The same NBA where Steve Nash and Dwyane Wade travel about 80% of the time they have the ball?

The same NBA where the biggest player in the NBA can change pivot feet in the post 2-3 times and no official notices?

You're kidding, right?


This league hasn't had integrity since the Jordan rules were established.

TP

Ouch pretty spot on ( puts green tinted homer glasses on ) except Pierce who never does what you say. His move is legit. : )

[guava_wrench]

And the block where he pushes Rajon out of the way as he's falling.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_803lThcscg

Where was the push? Howard just landed on him.

 

So many victims.

You are tough and never make excuses and the better team always wins and the refs don't influence the game and ..

I think the refs influenced this game through the techs on Perkins. That was a big loss based on what was at least 1 bad call, if not 2.

I just don't buy the double standards so many have on judging foul calls. If a big man daintily pulls down a rebound and then Rondo steals it from his grasp, people would criticize him for not pulling the ball in with strength and authority. But if you secure the ball that strongly, you will often hammer anyone sliding under you.

I do not disagree with those who claim that Howard uses his elbows too much away from the ball, though I must confess to not following him closely enough. I give those critics and KG the benefit of the doubt on the complaint.

Look at the replay of the elbow to Baby. Nate clearly fouls Howard (non-call by the refs). Nate swings through the left wrist of Howard and the momentum of that same arm hits Baby in the face. I'm sorry, but we actually got the benefit of the missed call on that play, even though we ended up with a hurt player.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCJK1hPpLCE

[vinnie]

And the block where he pushes Rajon out of the way as he's falling.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_803lThcscg

Where was the push? Howard just landed on him.

 

So many victims.

You are tough and never make excuses and the better team always wins and the refs don't influence the game and ..

I think the refs influenced this game through the techs on Perkins. That was a big loss based on what was at least 1 bad call, if not 2.

I just don't buy the double standards so many have on judging foul calls. If a big man daintily pulls down a rebound and then Rondo steals it from his grasp, people would criticize him for not pulling the ball in with strength and authority. But if you secure the ball that strongly, you will often hammer anyone sliding under you.

I do not disagree with those who claim that Howard uses his elbows too much away from the ball, though I must confess to not following him closely enough. I give those critics and KG the benefit of the doubt on the complaint.

Look at the replay of the elbow to Baby. Nate clearly fouls Howard (non-call by the refs). Nate swings through the left wrist of Howard and the momentum of that same arm hits Baby in the face. I'm sorry, but we actually got the benefit of the missed call on that play, even though we ended up with a hurt player.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCJK1hPpLCE

Are you kidding me? Nate hitting Howard's arm had nothing to do with the follow through of the elbow that nailed Davis in the jaw. Nothing.

[Birdbrain]

And the block where he pushes Rajon out of the way as he's falling.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_803lThcscg

Where was the push? Howard just landed on him.

 

So many victims.

You are tough and never make excuses and the better team always wins and the refs don't influence the game and ..

I think the refs influenced this game through the techs on Perkins. That was a big loss based on what was at least 1 bad call, if not 2.

I just don't buy the double standards so many have on judging foul calls. If a big man daintily pulls down a rebound and then Rondo steals it from his grasp, people would criticize him for not pulling the ball in with strength and authority. But if you secure the ball that strongly, you will often hammer anyone sliding under you.

I do not disagree with those who claim that Howard uses his elbows too much away from the ball, though I must confess to not following him closely enough. I give those critics and KG the benefit of the doubt on the complaint.

Look at the replay of the elbow to Baby. Nate clearly fouls Howard (non-call by the refs). Nate swings through the left wrist of Howard and the momentum of that same arm hits Baby in the face. I'm sorry, but we actually got the benefit of the missed call on that play, even though we ended up with a hurt player.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCJK1hPpLCE

The Davis elbow was unintentional.  I didn't see it anywhere near the way you did though.  But let's put that to side for second.  I think most are wondering why Perkins,KG and Sheed are held to different standard and last nights game wasn't the only evidence to that fact.  There are about 10 such plays where Howard has followed through pulling players in awkward positions leading to nothing but personal fouls.  Pierce and Rondo more than few times.  I'm as anti conspiracy as the next guy and I love physical bball but, it's being called anywhere near the same.  Howard literally should have suspended already yet we are awaiting word on whether we have Perkins for the biggest game of the season.  That's BS of the highest order.

[moiso]

I don't think it's a coincidence that Howard's elbows, arms, and hands always find someone's face after the whistle.  Never someone's arm or body, always the head or face.  He is the biggest cheap shot artist in the league, and there are so many strikes against the guy, I will never believe his post whistle cheap shots to be accidental.

[guava_wrench]

And the block where he pushes Rajon out of the way as he's falling.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_803lThcscg

Where was the push? Howard just landed on him.

 

So many victims.

You are tough and never make excuses and the better team always wins and the refs don't influence the game and ..

I think the refs influenced this game through the techs on Perkins. That was a big loss based on what was at least 1 bad call, if not 2.

I just don't buy the double standards so many have on judging foul calls. If a big man daintily pulls down a rebound and then Rondo steals it from his grasp, people would criticize him for not pulling the ball in with strength and authority. But if you secure the ball that strongly, you will often hammer anyone sliding under you.

I do not disagree with those who claim that Howard uses his elbows too much away from the ball, though I must confess to not following him closely enough. I give those critics and KG the benefit of the doubt on the complaint.

Look at the replay of the elbow to Baby. Nate clearly fouls Howard (non-call by the refs). Nate swings through the left wrist of Howard and the momentum of that same arm hits Baby in the face. I'm sorry, but we actually got the benefit of the missed call on that play, even though we ended up with a hurt player.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCJK1hPpLCE

The Davis elbow was unintentional.  I didn't see it anywhere near the way you did though.  But let's put that to side for second.  I think most are wondering why Perkins,KG and Sheed are held to different standard and last nights game wasn't the only evidence to that fact.  There are about 10 such plays where Howard has followed through pulling players in awkward positions leading to nothing but personal fouls.  Pierce and Rondo more than few times.  I'm as anti conspiracy as the next guy and I love physical bball but, it's being called anywhere near the same.  Howard literally should have suspended already yet we are awaiting word on whether we have Perkins for the biggest game of the season.  That's BS of the highest order.

Like Pierce shoving JJ Redick after the whistle? Good hard playoff foul.

Our problem is that Howard is the strongest, most athletic player on the court, so his physicality hurts more than ours.

You don't think that both teams get away with contact after blocks?

I also remember one of our players leveling Jameer (I believe) when closing out in a 3 on the left corner but no call was made since he had already released the shot.

I tend to believe that the refs try to avoid calls that don't directly affect shots. Look at how the refs didn't bother to call Ray Allen's ill-advised foul of Howard while Jameer was already shooting a three. That could have been a three + Howard at the line.

[guava_wrench]

And the block where he pushes Rajon out of the way as he's falling.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_803lThcscg

Where was the push? Howard just landed on him.

 

So many victims.

You are tough and never make excuses and the better team always wins and the refs don't influence the game and ..

I think the refs influenced this game through the techs on Perkins. That was a big loss based on what was at least 1 bad call, if not 2.

I just don't buy the double standards so many have on judging foul calls. If a big man daintily pulls down a rebound and then Rondo steals it from his grasp, people would criticize him for not pulling the ball in with strength and authority. But if you secure the ball that strongly, you will often hammer anyone sliding under you.

I do not disagree with those who claim that Howard uses his elbows too much away from the ball, though I must confess to not following him closely enough. I give those critics and KG the benefit of the doubt on the complaint.

Look at the replay of the elbow to Baby. Nate clearly fouls Howard (non-call by the refs). Nate swings through the left wrist of Howard and the momentum of that same arm hits Baby in the face. I'm sorry, but we actually got the benefit of the missed call on that play, even though we ended up with a hurt player.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCJK1hPpLCE

Are you kidding me? Nate hitting Howard's arm had nothing to do with the follow through of the elbow that nailed Davis in the jaw. Nothing.

You can believe that all you want, but the Nate foul is clear in the slow mo replay in the video. You can interpret it however you want, but the righteous indignation is a bit shallow when you see Nate smacking Howard's left arm like that.

[ssspence]

Interesting bit with Tim Donaghy on WEEI this morning:

http://audio.weei.com/m/31376352/tim-donaghy-former-nba-ref.htm

He refers to his spot on the Dan Patrick Show yesterday:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/danpatrick/listenlive.player.html?file=http://ht.cdn.turner.com/si/danpatrick/audio/2010/05/25/DP-Tim_Donaghy-05-25-10_Interview.mp3

Incidentally, he diagrees with me and suggests that the NBA will push the refs to give more calls to the Cs to ensure they make it to the NBA finals. Interested to see if he's correct.

[Birdbrain]

And the block where he pushes Rajon out of the way as he's falling.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_803lThcscg

Where was the push? Howard just landed on him.

 

So many victims.

You are tough and never make excuses and the better team always wins and the refs don't influence the game and ..

I think the refs influenced this game through the techs on Perkins. That was a big loss based on what was at least 1 bad call, if not 2.

I just don't buy the double standards so many have on judging foul calls. If a big man daintily pulls down a rebound and then Rondo steals it from his grasp, people would criticize him for not pulling the ball in with strength and authority. But if you secure the ball that strongly, you will often hammer anyone sliding under you.

I do not disagree with those who claim that Howard uses his elbows too much away from the ball, though I must confess to not following him closely enough. I give those critics and KG the benefit of the doubt on the complaint.

Look at the replay of the elbow to Baby. Nate clearly fouls Howard (non-call by the refs). Nate swings through the left wrist of Howard and the momentum of that same arm hits Baby in the face. I'm sorry, but we actually got the benefit of the missed call on that play, even though we ended up with a hurt player.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCJK1hPpLCE

The Davis elbow was unintentional.  I didn't see it anywhere near the way you did though.  But let's put that to side for second.  I think most are wondering why Perkins,KG and Sheed are held to different standard and last nights game wasn't the only evidence to that fact.  There are about 10 such plays where Howard has followed through pulling players in awkward positions leading to nothing but personal fouls.  Pierce and Rondo more than few times.  I'm as anti conspiracy as the next guy and I love physical bball but, it's being called anywhere near the same.  Howard literally should have suspended already yet we are awaiting word on whether we have Perkins for the biggest game of the season.  That's BS of the highest order.

Like Pierce shoving JJ Redick after the whistle? Good hard playoff foul.

Our problem is that Howard is the strongest, most athletic player on the court, so his physicality hurts more than ours.

You don't think that both teams get away with contact after blocks?

I also remember one of our players leveling Jameer (I believe) when closing out in a 3 on the left corner but no call was made since he had already released the shot.

I tend to believe that the refs try to avoid calls that don't directly affect shots. Look at how the refs didn't bother to call Ray Allen's ill-advised foul of Howard while Jameer was already shooting a three. That could have been a three + Howard at the line.

Actually no that wouldn't have been the call.  The 3 could count but, the foul will always be either 1 shot (if made) for howard or 2 (since he missed) in this case.

You'll be happy to know they got Pierce for that push.  Flagrant 1 for him. Now if only Howard had committed a few Flagrants we would be getting somewhere.

[Birdbrain]

Interesting bit with Tim Donaghy on WEEI this morning:

http://audio.weei.com/m/31376352/tim-donaghy-former-nba-ref.htm

He refers to his spot on the Dan Patrick Show yesterday:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/danpatrick/listenlive.player.html?file=http://ht.cdn.turner.com/si/danpatrick/audio/2010/05/25/DP-Tim_Donaghy-05-25-10_Interview.mp3

Incidentally, he diagrees with me and suggests that the NBA will push the refs to give more calls to the Cs to ensure they make it to the NBA finals. Interested to see if he's correct.

What a dirt bag this guy is.  So orlando got calls to prolong the series but, now Boston will get calls because they want them in the finals.  So who is actual better team?  lol

[Chris]

There was nothing suspension worthy.  His elbow on KG was inadvertent (unlike KG's, or his from last year), and the one of Davis was even more inadvertent, He was just coming down, and Davis' head got in the way.

While I have decided that Howard is a dirty player who gets away with it because of his child like persona, I do not think he has done anything to deserve a suspension this series.