Is Tony Allen Our Version of Ron Artest

[Mr October]

Yup, Artest's offensive game gets worse every year. Now he is just an average NBA player on offense. His defense has also dropped as he has lost speed. Today he is just an above average defensive player.

I thought Ariza was a way better player when those 2 swapped teams.

Yet, his outside shot is better than Tony's, making Artest a better offensive player.

[ToppersBsktball10]

Different games. Artest was a solid scorer in his prime, and a better shooter. His defense came from strength mainly. Tony is a hard working, quick athletic two guard that can't shoot or dribble to save his life. But as of RIGHT NOW?? I'd take Tony. Imagine if he never hurt his knee. Hopefully he can work hard of that jumper this off season.

[Mr October]

Different games. Artest was a solid scorer in his prime, and a better shooter. His defense came from strength mainly. Tony is a hard working, quick athletic two guard that can't shoot or dribble to save his life. But as of RIGHT NOW?? I'd take Tony. Imagine if he never hurt his knee. Hopefully he can work hard of that jumper this off season.

Oh yeah, Tony by far is a better fit on the Celtics. His speed is critical off the bench.

Likewise, Artest's size at the 3 is huge for LA. Can you imagine if they had to start Tony against Pierce in the finals?

These 2 players are so different, even though they are defensive oriented.

[Who]

I think Artest is still one of the finest one-on-one defenders on the wing in the NBA.

Has he dropped off from where he was? Sure, but he is still an elite defender.

[Fafnir]

I think Artest is still one of the finest one-on-one defenders on the wing in the NBA.

Has he dropped off from where he was? Sure, but he is still an elite defender.

I'm not sure what to think of Pierce matching up with him in the playoffs.

A lot will depend on how much holding/grabbing is allowed in the series.

[Aeacus]

Artest and Tony are both defensive oriented, but are very different.

Artest is a 3/4
Tony is a 2/3/1

Artest has a better offensive game and is a banger. Tony is a fast footed leaper.

  I don't think Artest is much of an offensive player anymore.

He's a decent three point shooter when he has his feet set. But other than that he's pretty limited.

His biggest problem is that he doesn't know he's limited.  He still has times where he tries to take over offensively and kills the offense. 

He's not quite the defensive stopper he used to be but he's still good enough to worry me on Pierce.  But we need two more wins before we can talk about those matchups