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The Knicks need to replace Curry with Tony Parker (trade idea).
« on: May 13, 2010, 12:58:00 PM »

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The Spurs need more/better veteran talent to extend their window as a contender with Duncan, The Knicks need to cash in their young talent with the Curry contract to be a more attractive destination this summer and the 76ers need to get out of Elton Brand and reshuffle as a team with a large payroll and limited promise.

Spurs receive: Elton Brand and Andre Iguodala

Knicks receive: Tony Parker

76ers receive: Richard Jefferson, Eddy Curry, Wilson Chandler, Danillo Gallinari, the Spurs 2010 first round pick and Cash from the Knicks.

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Re: The Knicks need to replace Curry with Tony Parker (trade idea).
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2010, 01:12:45 PM »

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Quote from: Jsaad on May 13, 2010, 12:58:00 PM
The Spurs need more/better veteran talent to extend their window as a contender with Duncan, The Knicks need to cash in their young talent with the Curry contract to be a more attractive destination this summer and the 76ers need to get out of Elton Brand and reshuffle as a team with a large payroll and limited promise.

Spurs receive: Elton Brand and Andre Iguodala

Knicks receive: Tony Parker

76ers receive: Richard Jefferson, Eddy Curry, Wilson Chandler, Danillo Gallinari, the Spurs 2010 first round pick and Cash from the Knicks.

Thoughts?



I dont know that I like it for the Spurs.  Elton Brand is scrub.  I like AI but not at the expense of Tony Parker (who I believe is one of the more underrated PGs in the league).

Maybe if they can get one of Wilson Chandler or Danillo Galinari.  But then the trade gets pretty weak for Philly.

I would LOVE to see Tony Parker running the show for Mike Dantoni in NY though.
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Re: The Knicks need to replace Curry with Tony Parker (trade idea).
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2010, 01:28:14 PM »

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That could work out really well for the Spurs.
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Re: The Knicks need to replace Curry with Tony Parker (trade idea).
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2010, 01:34:33 PM »

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The Elton Brand contract is a deal breaker.

Switch Brand with Dalembert and the Spurs may consider it. Although, at that point, there is no need for NYC to be a part of the transaction.
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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2010, 03:17:53 PM »

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Quote from: Who on May 13, 2010, 01:34:33 PM
The Elton Brand contract is a deal breaker.

Switch Brand with Dalembert and the Spurs may consider it. Although, at that point, there is no need for NYC to be a part of the transaction.

Why would the 76ers do that?
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Re: The Knicks need to replace Curry with Tony Parker (trade idea).
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2010, 03:22:17 PM »

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Quote from: Jsaad on May 13, 2010, 03:17:53 PM
Quote from: Who on May 13, 2010, 01:34:33 PM
The Elton Brand contract is a deal breaker.

Switch Brand with Dalembert and the Spurs may consider it. Although, at that point, there is no need for NYC to be a part of the transaction.

Why would the 76ers do that?
Tony Parker or Andre Iguodala? Who is the better player? Who would Philadelphia rather build around?

Not sure whether they'd do it or not, but, I do think they would consider it.
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Re: The Knicks need to replace Curry with Tony Parker (trade idea).
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2010, 03:32:19 PM »

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Quote from: PosImpos on May 13, 2010, 01:28:14 PM
That could work out really well for the Spurs.

A front court of Brand, Duncan, and McDyess?

And Geroge Hill (who I love) is far, far, FAR from the player Tony Parker is.

And what makes you think Iguodala will be successful in San Antonio.  They haven't had a swingman play well (with the exception of Manu) in their system since.....I don't even know when.
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Re: The Knicks need to replace Curry with Tony Parker (trade idea).
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2010, 03:43:32 PM »

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I actually think its the Knicks that get screwed here. Yes the get rid of Curry but Galli and Chandler are like their only two players under contract for next season. The go into free agency looking to sign what 12 players? Two will get max contracts and then 10 at the vet min. Thats an awful idea.

Dont like it for the Spurs either. I cant see Brand alongside Duncan working very well.
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« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2010, 04:05:35 PM »

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Quote from: shookones99 on May 13, 2010, 03:32:19 PM
Quote from: PosImpos on May 13, 2010, 01:28:14 PM
That could work out really well for the Spurs.

A front court of Brand, Duncan, and McDyess?

And Geroge Hill (who I love) is far, far, FAR from the player Tony Parker is.

And what makes you think Iguodala will be successful in San Antonio.  They haven't had a swingman play well (with the exception of Manu) in their system since.....I don't even know when.

Hill
Ginobili
Iguodala
Brand
Duncan

That's a balanced offensive lineup that has great defenders in the backcourt, on the wing, and down low.  Brand's the only real defensive liability.
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Re: The Knicks need to replace Curry with Tony Parker (trade idea).
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2010, 04:16:57 PM »

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Quote from: PosImpos on May 13, 2010, 04:05:35 PM
Quote from: shookones99 on May 13, 2010, 03:32:19 PM
Quote from: PosImpos on May 13, 2010, 01:28:14 PM
That could work out really well for the Spurs.

A front court of Brand, Duncan, and McDyess?

And Geroge Hill (who I love) is far, far, FAR from the player Tony Parker is.

And what makes you think Iguodala will be successful in San Antonio.  They haven't had a swingman play well (with the exception of Manu) in their system since.....I don't even know when.

Hill
Ginobili
Iguodala
Brand
Duncan

That's a balanced offensive lineup that has great defenders in the backcourt, on the wing, and down low.  Brand's the only real defensive liability.
I think that's a pretty weak offensive lineup with no real distributor. 

Brand IMO is a major defensive liability.  And as much as I hate to say it, Duncan's defense was not up to par this year.  And it's not getting any better...
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Re: The Knicks need to replace Curry with Tony Parker (trade idea).
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2010, 04:20:10 PM »

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Quote from: shookones99 on May 13, 2010, 04:16:57 PM
Quote from: PosImpos on May 13, 2010, 04:05:35 PM
Quote from: shookones99 on May 13, 2010, 03:32:19 PM
Quote from: PosImpos on May 13, 2010, 01:28:14 PM
That could work out really well for the Spurs.

A front court of Brand, Duncan, and McDyess?

And Geroge Hill (who I love) is far, far, FAR from the player Tony Parker is.

And what makes you think Iguodala will be successful in San Antonio.  They haven't had a swingman play well (with the exception of Manu) in their system since.....I don't even know when.

Hill
Ginobili
Iguodala
Brand
Duncan

That's a balanced offensive lineup that has great defenders in the backcourt, on the wing, and down low.  Brand's the only real defensive liability.
I think that's a pretty weak offensive lineup with no real distributor. 

Brand IMO is a major defensive liability.  And as much as I hate to say it, Duncan's defense was not up to par this year.  And it's not getting any better...

Well, I think Brand may get better in a more competitive situation.  Hill has shown the ability to be good offensively, and really I don't think he or Parker is a great passer.  Ginobili is a better distributor than either of them.  Iguodala is also a playmaker who likes to set up teammates (he's LeBron-lite).

You may be right about Duncan's defense, but I don't think there's anything the Spurs can realistically do about that.  I don't think there's any question that this lineup would be a lot better than the Spurs as currently constructed.  Iguodala would actually give them what they hoped to get from Jefferson, and Brand would be able to take some of the burden off of Duncan in terms of post-offense.

You're right, though, that they'd get killed by teams with fast, perimeter PFs.
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Re: The Knicks need to replace Curry with Tony Parker (trade idea).
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2010, 04:35:01 PM »

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Quote from: PosImpos on May 13, 2010, 04:20:10 PM
Quote from: shookones99 on May 13, 2010, 04:16:57 PM
Quote from: PosImpos on May 13, 2010, 04:05:35 PM
Quote from: shookones99 on May 13, 2010, 03:32:19 PM
Quote from: PosImpos on May 13, 2010, 01:28:14 PM
That could work out really well for the Spurs.

A front court of Brand, Duncan, and McDyess?

And Geroge Hill (who I love) is far, far, FAR from the player Tony Parker is.

And what makes you think Iguodala will be successful in San Antonio.  They haven't had a swingman play well (with the exception of Manu) in their system since.....I don't even know when.

Hill
Ginobili
Iguodala
Brand
Duncan

That's a balanced offensive lineup that has great defenders in the backcourt, on the wing, and down low.  Brand's the only real defensive liability.
I think that's a pretty weak offensive lineup with no real distributor. 

Brand IMO is a major defensive liability.  And as much as I hate to say it, Duncan's defense was not up to par this year.  And it's not getting any better...

Well, I think Brand may get better in a more competitive situation.  Hill has shown the ability to be good offensively, and really I don't think he or Parker is a great passer.  Ginobili is a better distributor than either of them.  Iguodala is also a playmaker who likes to set up teammates (he's LeBron-lite).

You may be right about Duncan's defense, but I don't think there's anything the Spurs can realistically do about that.  I don't think there's any question that this lineup would be a lot better than the Spurs as currently constructed.  Iguodala would actually give them what they hoped to get from Jefferson, and Brand would be able to take some of the burden off of Duncan in terms of post-offense.

You're right, though, that they'd get killed by teams with fast, perimeter PFs.

2 things:

1.  I worry that Igoudala would struggle much in the same way that Richard Jefferson did in terms of scoring the ball.  You're right in that AI is a better passer as well as defender.

2.  I think people sleep on Tony Parker's passing.  He gets the ball where it needs to go and makes smart decisions.  I also don't know that George Hill could step in without there being a serious change in play style in San Antonio.  Which could be good or bad.

OK so I guess I'll backtrack a little and agree that this hypothetical team would be better than this years team.  But not by much.  Not by enough to make it worth it IMO
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Re: The Knicks need to replace Curry with Tony Parker (trade idea).
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2010, 04:40:09 PM »

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Quote from: PosImpos on May 13, 2010, 04:20:10 PM
Quote from: shookones99 on May 13, 2010, 04:16:57 PM
Quote from: PosImpos on May 13, 2010, 04:05:35 PM
Quote from: shookones99 on May 13, 2010, 03:32:19 PM
Quote from: PosImpos on May 13, 2010, 01:28:14 PM
That could work out really well for the Spurs.

A front court of Brand, Duncan, and McDyess?

And Geroge Hill (who I love) is far, far, FAR from the player Tony Parker is.

And what makes you think Iguodala will be successful in San Antonio.  They haven't had a swingman play well (with the exception of Manu) in their system since.....I don't even know when.

Hill
Ginobili
Iguodala
Brand
Duncan

That's a balanced offensive lineup that has great defenders in the backcourt, on the wing, and down low.  Brand's the only real defensive liability.
I think that's a pretty weak offensive lineup with no real distributor. 

Brand IMO is a major defensive liability.  And as much as I hate to say it, Duncan's defense was not up to par this year.  And it's not getting any better...

Well, I think Brand may get better in a more competitive situation.  Hill has shown the ability to be good offensively, and really I don't think he or Parker is a great passer.  Ginobili is a better distributor than either of them.  Iguodala is also a playmaker who likes to set up teammates (he's LeBron-lite).

You may be right about Duncan's defense, but I don't think there's anything the Spurs can realistically do about that.  I don't think there's any question that this lineup would be a lot better than the Spurs as currently constructed.  Iguodala would actually give them what they hoped to get from Jefferson, and Brand would be able to take some of the burden off of Duncan in terms of post-offense.

You're right, though, that they'd get killed by teams with fast, perimeter PFs.
The Spurs should acquire Tyrus Thomas. He would be an excellent defensive complement to Duncan's defensive game at this stage in his career.
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« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2010, 04:53:56 PM »

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Now, we know the Spurs are way over the cap but I don't think that trading one of the core members of their old championship squad away would be helpful unless they're just trying to blow up that team after losing to the Phoenix Suns in quite the anti-climactic fashion this post-season. Duncan is likely to retire there and Parker is a former Finals MVP so if they do anything it would probably involve dealing off Jefferson and trying to save up some cap space.

Unfortunately for San Antonio their attempts to put together a potential championship-winning roster by spending tons of money on a valuable free-agent backfired in the wake of what may likely be a re-match between the Celtics and Lakers at the end of this season. In fact, many teams in both the East and West will likely be scratching their head at the end of the season if the two winning-est teams in NBA basketball make it to the Finals again because of all of the big trades that went on during the off-season. Cleveland might be losing alot of players if LeBron leaves as that city will no longer be able to attract big-names, Detroit is actually worse now that they signed someone to come off the bench there after Allen Iverson refused to do so, the Nuggets were great again but didn't make any impact in the playoffs, same with the Mavs, the 76ers brought A.I. back but tanked before ever becoming a threat to make the post-season. The Knicks already have T-Mac but I'm sure would be willing to let him go for a shot a LeBron, etc. It just seems like it would be strange for the Spurs to make any other big trades seeing as they are literally spending over 20$ over the cap this season alone and should be doing anything possible to try and free up some cap space...
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Re: The Knicks need to replace Curry with Tony Parker (trade idea).
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2010, 05:09:53 PM »

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Quote from: Jsaad on May 13, 2010, 12:58:00 PM
The Spurs need more/better veteran talent to extend their window as a contender with Duncan, The Knicks need to cash in their young talent with the Curry contract to be a more attractive destination this summer and the 76ers need to get out of Elton Brand and reshuffle as a team with a large payroll and limited promise.

Spurs receive: Elton Brand and Andre Iguodala

Knicks receive: Tony Parker

76ers receive: Richard Jefferson, Eddy Curry, Wilson Chandler, Danillo Gallinari, the Spurs 2010 first round pick and Cash from the Knicks.

Thoughts?



Too much of a lateral move for the Spurs to give up their first round pick (Orton/Stanley Robinson/Bradley).....I mean.....is it a done deal from the Spurs perspective even if they're not giving up the pick? 

I also don't think the Knicks would give up both Wilson and Gallinari for Parker, though I could be wrong since they unload Curry too....

I was under the impression that Parker is still fantastic and that Brand is worse than rotten....an impression I got from Celtics blog....wrong impression?

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