Good Bye

[BudweiserCeltic]

Edit: By the way, hasn't Brick threatened not to post here again before, particularly due to Tony or something? I remember him or someone like him swearing he wouldn't post again if X happened with Tony Allen.

I think that was Brick James (no relation)

Honest mistake. Even perfect being like myself can err once in a while.

[MattG12]

Why does this have to happen in every goodbye thread?

Perhaps a goodbye thread is a cry for attention. (I don't think it is, but let's stick with that theory for now)

Isn't giving your opinion by saying "Goodbye threads are tacky cries for attention." actually a way of crying for attention yourself? Especially if you provide that opinion in multiple goodbye threads. In fact, don't we all want attention on here? If we didn't want attention, we wouldn't post on a blog.

I like goodbye threads. I think they are a valuable part of the CelticsBlog community. I don't like not knowing where posters are... There are former posters right now that I have no idea the whereabouts of. (I won't mention names because I think that's against CB rules) Goodbye threads help us so that we know where and why a poster is going. It is the posters choice to make a goodbye thread for the people they like on the blog and the people who like them back.

I think it's rude to comment on somebody's goodbye thread saying that "Goodbye threads are tacky". Whether you meant to say that poster is tacky or not, that is obviously how other people are going to view it.

If you really want to say Goodbye threads are tacky... start a thread called "Goodbye threads are tacky" and discuss it there. Don't bring that kind of stuff to somebody's goodbye thread and then try to act like you're completely innocent. You made that comment knowing it was going to turn into an argument, because that is all that happens every time.

Brick was a great poster, I think everybody would agree on that. I wish he wouldn't leave, especially over something like the Current Events forum. I hope he will come back like many other posters have in the past.

Hilarious, Brick complaining about censorship in the OP, and people now want to chastise Chris for speaking his honest mind.

I'd say this about good bye threads, it's all about how they done and delivered. I'd prefer it if Brick simply said, "I'm leaving because of personal reasons" or a simple "I'm leaving because of differences of ideas with this site" or whatever and left it at that. Instead, he kinda left with a bit of a shot against some staff members, and called out the site about censorship, etc. So, in turn, this thread was in poor taste from the get go, and calling Chris "rude" for his opinion on a thread like this is a bit ridiculous if you ask me.

Exactly.  I was wrong to paint all goodbye threads with such a broad brush.  There certainly are cases where someone just needs to leave for whatever reason, and they just want to say goodbye to their friends on the site.  But threads like this one are a different animal. 

I don't see where Brick attacked anyone... He made one inaccurate point by saying Roy revoked his right post in the Current Event forum, when in fact it was the entire staff's decision. I will say, I think I agree with the staffs decision. Looking back at his posts in that thread, he did seem to be attacking another poster(s?). It is fact that his right to post there was taken away from him... and it is of his belief that this place is no longer an open community or whatever he said I don't remember. I wouldn't call that an attack... I would call it a strong opinion. I don't really like the way he set up his goodbye thread but I still don't like the reaction to it.

Also, I didn't mean to direct what I said solely towards you Chris, and I apologize for that. What I meant to be discussing was the fact that every time somebody starts a goodbye thread this argument happens because somebody makes a rude comment such as calling the thread "tacky". There is somebody, I've gone back and looked at a few older goodbye threads, there is one poster who seems to go out of their way to post in each one with comments like "Bye." and "Meh.". To me this is a case of "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all." I find it to be ridiculous that people need to go out of there way to cause problems in threads like these.

Anyway, sorry Chris, I didn't mean to vent on you, it was really just the whole history of the reactions to goodbye threads.

[Eja117]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCayacFcCX4&feature=related

this is how I feel about the whole deal

[MattG12]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCayacFcCX4&feature=related

this is how I feel about the whole deal

lol TP for the video...

You feel the same way about this topic from whose perspective? Beaker, Animal, the crowd?

[mmbaby]

Matt and Bakhu, greats posts!!!

But Chris still has me upset because I like Brick and I like most posters here and feel everyone should always be treated respectfully. A moderator must adhere to a higher standard and even if he feels a certain way and has a certain opinion, say, about goodbye threads, obviously not everyone feels that way. There was really no reason to say it, and it turned out to be an insulting statement to Brick, whether he meant it or not.

With my very first post here, I was put down by some mods. They made me feel so stupid, like I wasn't worthy to post on this blog. I am a moderator myself on a grief blog and we would never say things like this to anyone for fear of
1. hurting them 2. having them decide to leave immediately when what we wanted them to feel was welcome.

I applaud Chris for admitting his curmugeonness (sp) and laughed when I read it and feel a (little) better about what happened. But I doubt Brick feels the least bit better, unless he's read some of the posts from his fellow posters here that were understanding of his feelings.

I agree with rules but this turned into something else. Mods have to adhere to the rules too, right? No name calling, no disrepect, etc.

Brick, if you're reading, most of us DO NOT agree with some things that have been said on this thread. I think you'll see that many people here are going to miss you a lot and wish that you would stay.   

[Fafnir]

It is fact that his right to post there was taken away from him... and it is of his belief that this place is no longer an open community or whatever he said I don't remember. I wouldn't call that an attack... I would call it a strong opinion. I don't really like the way he set up his goodbye thread but I still don't like the reaction to it.

To call out a specific moderator and then declare that CB is no longer an open community is an attack. We work pretty hard to keep things moving smoothly and other posters spend a lot of time to make CB the great place it is.

To declare it a closed system that doesn't encourage discussion, interaction, and many differing viewpoints is an insult/attack/etc.

[Fafnir]

Perhaps a goodbye thread is a cry for attention. (I don't think it is, but let's stick with that theory for now)

Isn't giving your opinion by saying "Goodbye threads are tacky cries for attention." actually a way of crying for attention yourself? Especially if you provide that opinion in multiple goodbye threads. In fact, don't we all want attention on here? If we didn't want attention, we wouldn't post on a blog.

I come here for the analysis, news, and sense of community. Attention isn't one of the things I personally seek.

Seeking acknowledgment for your contributions to the blog isn't a bad thing necessarily. But since when is storming out slamming the door on the way out a way to say goodbye to your friends at the blog?

[mmbaby]

Fafnir, not one person here has said you don't 'work hard' here. We know that you work hard.

This is not an attack against the moderators, but a discussion of what is respectful and what is not.

[Fafnir]

Fafnir, not one person here has said you don't 'work hard' here. We know that you work hard.

This is not an attack against the moderators, but a discussion of what is respectful and what is not.

I wasn't referring to any of your comments when I talked about the "attack/insult", or MattG12's, but rather the OP. Which is what Chris was responding to originally.

[nickagneta]

Couple of things

- I like Brick, always have. He has been here a long time and he will be missed but I also have had a need to distance myself from this place due to circumstances, so I wish him luck with his decision and where it may bring him. Hopefully it's somewhere he wants to be and maybe where he wants to be will eventually be right back here again.

- I was participating in the thread(s) where Brick was quite blatantly disrespecting several posters as well as Roy on several occasions, without Roy even being a part of the conversation at the time. It was uncalled for and a clear violation of the rules not only of the current events forums but of the blog in general. Whatever occurred behind the scenes and whatever action was taken against him, and not being a moderator I can only go by what I have read in this thread, it was justified. Sorry Brick, ya screwed up and if you do the crime you have to do the time.

- Having been a part of the thread(s) where Brick violated the rules and was given more than one public warning to cease and didn't and the way in which he was labeling certain long time posters(not me I tend to agree with most of what Brick says politically) and Roy and the mods, it's pretty obvious that Brick's OP here was an attack against the mods in general and Roy in particular. Follow Brick's posts and how he conducts himself in the Current Events forum and that's pretty easy to see.

Therefore, as far as I am concerned, any less than flattering remark that may or may not have been directly or indirectly target at or could have been inferred to be referencing Brick, in my book, is fair game.

- Just to let one particular poster know, passive aggressiveness or neediness are behaviors not mental defects attributed to mental illness. You have a lot to learn regarding those subjects.

[Kiorrik]

TP, Nick.

[Bahku]

TP, Nick.

I second that ... well-said, Nick ... and Matt, and Budweiser, Mmbaby, Redz, Faf, etc. - TP's to all. Really hope you'll change your mind, Brick.

[KCattheStripe]

[Tai]

I said it before about ACF, I was right, I'll say it again.

Brick will be back, nothing to see here, and quite honestly:



And what KCat said. TP for him.

[ACF]

I said it before about ACF, I was right, I'll say it again.

Brick will be back, nothing to see here, and quite honestly:



And what KCat said. TP for him.

Tai, Official CelticsBlog Crystal Ball Worker.