Patriots 2010 Regular Season

[Cman]

Have to say I am very happy with the play of McCourty at the corner and on special teams. He will have his rookie mistakes and give up the big play this year leaning his craft but he has All-Pro potential, Not this year and maybe not next. But eventually.

I've been pretty happy with his play as well.  But it would be nice to have a proven vet as one of the CBs.  McCourty and Butler makes me nervous...

[Bahku]

Have to say I am very happy with the play of McCourty at the corner and on special teams. He will have his rookie mistakes and give up the big play this year leaning his craft but he has All-Pro potential, Not this year and maybe not next. But eventually.

I've been pretty happy with his play as well.  But it would be nice to have a proven vet as one of the CBs.  McCourty and Butler makes me nervous...

I think Bill may make a move or two in that area before long ... he's been very positive with regards to Butler, but with Bodden down it's a whole different story. I like what I've seen of McCourtney, but he's inconsistent and seems to lack focus at times.

[Birdman]

My Cincinnati Bengals are going to give your guys a good thumping!!! Just kidding but i think this game will be close and will come down to the last minute.

[nba is the worst]

This should be an exciting season, with the Patriots' offense having to overcome the issues on defense.  Seems like there's a lot of parity at this point in the NFL overall.

[Cman]

Interesting cuts today (consolidating some stuff from another post):

Among the high profile cuts are Derrick Burgess and Pierre Woods.  Other cuts that might be surprising are Rich Ohrnberger (4th round choice last year), Sergio Brown (some people thought he had played exceptionally well, especially on special teams) and WR Sam Aiken.

The team has traded for LB Tracy White and Safety Jarrad Page.  

With the trade for the safety, I've got to think that James Sanders is about to be traded for a position of need.

Also, Denver cut Jarvis Green, a former Pats player who could help at the DE.

EDIT--just read that S Brandon McGowan is out for the season, and that's one reason the trade for Jarrad Page occurred.  Wow, injury bug really hitting  the Pats....

[Bahku]

Following is the New England Patriots final roster, (a few surprises as to cuts):



New England Patriots 2010 Roster



Active

 
(Number, Name, Position, Height, Weight, Birthdate, College, Hometown & State)

#27 - Kyle Arrington  CB  5-10  196  8/12/1986  Hofstra  Accokeek, MD

#95 - Tully Banta-Cain  LB  6-2  250  8/28/1980  California  Sunnyvale, CA

#97 - Ron Brace  DT  6-3  330  12/18/1986  Boston College  Worcester, MA

#12 - Tom Brady  QB  6-4  225  8/3/1977  Michigan  San Mateo, CA

#28 - Darius Butler  CB  5-10  190  3/18/1986  Connecticut  Ft. Lauderdale, FL

#25 - Patrick Chung  SS  5-11  212  8/19/1987  Oregon  Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#63 - Dan Connolly  OL  6-4  313  9/2/1982  Southeast Missouri State  St. Louis, MO

#82 - Alge Crumpler  TE  6-2  276  12/23/1977  North Carolina  Wilmington, NC

#96 - Jermaine Cunningham  DE  6-3  260  8/24/1988  Florida  Stone Mountain, GA

#71 - Brandon Deaderick  DL  6-4  305  8/19/1987  Alabama  Elizabethtown, KY

#11 - Julian Edelman  WR  5-10  198  5/22/1986  Kent State  Redwood City, CA

#33 - Kevin Faulk  RB  5-8  202  6/5/1976  Louisiana State  Carencro, LA

#45 - Dane Fletcher  LB  6-2  244  9/14/1986  Montana State  Bozeman, MT

#3 - Stephen Gostkowski  K  6-1  210  1/28/1984  Memphis  Madison, MS

#42 - BenJarvus Green-Ellis  RB  5-11  215  7/2/1985  Mississippi  New Orleans, LA

#87 - Rob Gronkowski  TE  6-6  265  5/14/1989  Arizona  Amherst, NY

#59 - Gary Guyton  LB  6-3  242  11/14/1985  Georgia Tech  Hinesville, GA

#85 - Aaron Hernandez  TE  6-2  245  11/6/1989  Florida  Bristol, CT

#8 - Brian Hoyer  QB  6-2  215  10/13/1985  Michigan State  N. Olmstead, OH

#47 - Jake Ingram  LS  6-2  240  10/23/1985  Hawaii  Mililani, HI

#77 - Nick Kaczur  T  6-4  315  7/28/1979  Toledo  Brantford, Ontario, Canada

#67 - Dan Koppen  C  6-2  296  9/12/1979  Boston College  Whitehall, PA

#64 - Mark LeVoir  T  6-7  306  7/29/1982  Notre Dame  Eden Prairie, MN

#72 - Matt Light  T  6-4  305  6/23/1978  Purdue  Greenville, OH

#74 - Kyle Love  DL  6-1  310  9/14/1986  Mississippi State  Fairburn, GA

#70 - Logan Mankins  G  6-4  310  3/10/1982  Fresno State  Catheys Valley, CA

#39 - Laurence Maroney  RB  5-11  220  2/5/1985  Minnesota  St. Louis, MO

#51 - Jerod Mayo  LB  6-1  242  2/23/1986  Tennessee  Hampton, VA

#32 - Devin McCourty  CB  5-10  193  8/13/1987  Rutgers  Nanuet, NY

#44 - Tyrone McKenzie  LB  6-2  245  12/11/1985  South Florida  Riverview, FL

#31 - Brandon Meriweather  S  5-11  200  1/14/1984  Miami (Fla.)  Apopka, FL

#14 - Zoltan Mesko  P  6-5  231  4/16/1986  Michigan  Twinsburg, OH

#34 - Sammy Morris  RB  6-0  220  3/23/1977  Texas Tech  San Antonio, TX

#81 - Randy Moss  WR  6-4  210  2/13/1977  Marshall  Rand, WV

#93 - Marques Murrelll  LB  6-2  250  3/20/1985  Appalachian State  Fayetteville, NC

#61 - Stephen Neal  G  6-4  305  10/9/1976  Cal State-Bakersfield  San Diego, CA

#50 - Rob Ninkovich  LB  6-2  255  1/2/1984  Purdue  Blue Island, IL

#68 - Quinn Ojinnaka  OL  6-5  295  4/23/1984  Syracuse  Seabrook, MD

#17 - Taylor Price  WR  6-0  205  10/8/1987  Ohio University  Hilliard, OH

#91 - Myron Pryor  DT  6-1  310  6/13/1986  Kentucky  Louisville, KY

#36 - James Sanders  S  5-10  210  11/11/1983  Fresno State  Porterville, CA

#18 - Matthew Slater  WR  6-0  198  9/9/1985  UCLA  Anaheim, CA

#55 - Brandon Spikes  MLB  6-2  250  9/3/1987  Florida  Shelby, NC

#19 - Brandon Tate  WR  6-0  210  10/5/1987  North Carolina  Burlington, NC

#21 - Fred Taylor  RB  6-1  228  1/27/1976  Florida  Belle Glade, FL

#76 - Sebastian Vollmer  OL  6-8  315  7/10/1984  Houston  Kaarst, Germany

#68 - Gerard Warren  DL  6-4  330  7/25/1978  Florida  Lake Butler, FL

#83 - Wes Welker  WR  5-9  185  5/1/1981  Texas Tech  Oklahoma City, OK

#69 - Ryan Wendell  G  6-2  290  3/4/1986  Fresno State  Diamond Bar, CA

#22 - Terrence Wheatley  CB  5-9  183  5/5/1985  Colorado  Plano, TX

#75 - Vince Wilfork  DL  6-2  325  11/4/1981  Miami (Fla.)  Boynton Beach, FL

#24 - Jonathan Wilhite  CB  5-11  185  2/23/1984  Auburn  Monroe, LA

#99 - Mike Wright  DL  6-4  295  3/1/1982  Cincinnati  Cincinnati, OH




Injured Reserve

 
Josh Barrett  S  6-2  225  Arizona State  Reno, NV

#23 - Leigh Bodden  CB  6-1  193  9/24/1981  Duquense  Hyattsville, MD

#84 - Torry Holt  WR  6-0  190  6/5/1976  North Carolina State  Greensboro, NC

#26 - Bret Lockett  DB  6-1  220  10/7/1986  UCLA  Diamond Bar, CA

#30 - Brandon McGowan  S  5-11  207  9/26/1983  Maine  Jersey City, NJ

#90 - Darryl Richard  DT  6-4  290  6/17/1986  Georgia Tech  Destrehan, LA

#94 - Ty Warren  DL  6-5  300  2/6/1981  Texas A&M  Bryan, TX




Reserve/Military


Tyree Barnes  WR  6-0  196  4/15/1986  Navy  Hampton, VA

#44 - Eric Kettani  RB  5-11  235  3/26/1987  Navy  Kirtland, OH

#16 - Shun White  WR  5-8  195  12/9/1985  Navy  Memphis, TN




Coaches


Bill Belichick, Head Coach;  Josh Boyer, Defensive Backs;  Corwin Brown, Defensive Coach;  Ivan Fears, Running Backs;  Brian Ferentz, Offensive Assistant;  Brian Flores, Assistant Coach Offense/Special Teams;  Patrick Graham, Defensive Assistant Coach;  Pepper Johnson, Defensive Line;  Harold Nash, Assistant Strength and Conditioning;  Bill O'Brien, Quarterbacks;  Scott O'Brien, Special Teams;  Chad O'Shea, Wide Receivers;  Matt Patricia, Linebackers;  Dante Scarnecchia, Assistant Head Coach / Offensive Line;  Mike Woicik, Strength & Conditioning;

[Fan from VT]

Seems like injuries are a major problem for the Pats every year. I'm not even counting the Brady one or the Welker one; those are fluke plays that happen to every team. It just seems like New England loses major amounts of defensive depth every season.

So, question:
-Is this true or is it in my head because they're the team I follow closely;
-If true, does New England just have a terrible training staff?-
-Or is Bellichek just bad at evaluating durability?
-Or is one reason for Bellichek's seeming ability to find value because he takes players that other teams shy away from because they have durability questions, and this comes back to bite the Pats?

[Eja117]

I don't think they have more durability problems than other teams.


This is the thing I find shocking.

Kyle Arrington, Dane Fletcher, and especially matt Slater making the team, but not Sam Aiken on all 4 special teams. Also both Pierre Woods and Eric Alexander are young with lots of special teams play and starts under their belts at a thin position, but both gone.
I'm also surprised at how fast they gave up on some offensive linemen. I admit Rich Ohrenburg wasn't great, but he's young and they traded up to get him. I'll be very interested to see the practice squad.

Also they're at 54 players cause one of the OLs is suspended a game. So one guy get's cut after week one (assuming nobody gets hurt). So they're kind of just keeping an extra guy for a week.

It's like maybe Belichek is trying to sneak guys onto the practice squad.

[beantownboy171]

I don't think they have more durability problems than other teams.


This is the thing I find shocking.

Kyle Arrington, Dane Fletcher, and especially matt Slater making the team, but not Sam Aiken on all 4 special teams. Also both Pierre Woods and Eric Alexander are young with lots of special teams play and starts under their belts at a thin position, but both gone.
I'm also surprised at how fast they gave up on some offensive linemen. I admit Rich Ohrenburg wasn't great, but he's young and they traded up to get him. I'll be very interested to see the practice squad.

Also they're at 54 players cause one of the OLs is suspended a game. So one guy get's cut after week one (assuming nobody gets hurt). So they're kind of just keeping an extra guy for a week.

It's like maybe Belichek is trying to sneak guys onto the practice squad.

The Pats have claimed offensive tackle steve maneri from the texans.

Practice Squad So far:

1. Sergio Brown
2. Shawn Crable (Yup, he's back!)
3. Rich Ohrnberger
4. Darnell Jenkins
5. Steve Maneri



There are still 3 spots open but both Ted Larsen and Zac Robinson have been claimed off waivers.

[Cman]

I don't think they have more durability problems than other teams.


This is the thing I find shocking.

Kyle Arrington, Dane Fletcher, and especially matt Slater making the team, but not Sam Aiken on all 4 special teams. Also both Pierre Woods and Eric Alexander are young with lots of special teams play and starts under their belts at a thin position, but both gone.
I'm also surprised at how fast they gave up on some offensive linemen. I admit Rich Ohrenburg wasn't great, but he's young and they traded up to get him. I'll be very interested to see the practice squad.

Also they're at 54 players cause one of the OLs is suspended a game. So one guy get's cut after week one (assuming nobody gets hurt). So they're kind of just keeping an extra guy for a week.

It's like maybe Belichek is trying to sneak guys onto the practice squad.

The Pats have claimed offensive tackle steve maneri from the texans.

Practice Squad So far:

1. Sergio Brown
2. Shawn Crable (Yup, he's back!)
3. Rich Ohrnberger
4. Darnell Jenkins
5. Steve Maneri



There are still 3 spots open but both Ted Larsen and Zac Robinson have been claimed off waivers.

I was glad to see Ohrnberger, Jenkins and Brown making it to practice squad.  
We'll wee what Crable has to offer....

I'm still very interested in seeing whether the Pats make a move to bring back Jarvis Green.

[beantownboy171]

Pats have released ILB Tyrone Mckenzie... i hope he makes it to the practice squad...

http://www.patriots.com/news/index.cfm?ac=pressreleasesdetail&pid=44332&pcid=47

[Cman]

Pats have released ILB Tyrone Mckenzie... i hope he makes it to the practice squad...

http://www.patriots.com/news/index.cfm?ac=pressreleasesdetail&pid=44332&pcid=47

Yeah, it would be good if he made it to the practice squad, just because you hate to see such a high draft pick get cut, and because he was dealing with injury all year last year.  On the other hand,  it really sounded like he didn't "get it" (from a football IQ point of view) during training camp and preseason games (based off of what I read from Mike Reiss and Albert Breer).

[Cman]

I don't think they have more durability problems than other teams.


This is the thing I find shocking.

Kyle Arrington, Dane Fletcher, and especially matt Slater making the team, but not Sam Aiken on all 4 special teams. Also both Pierre Woods and Eric Alexander are young with lots of special teams play and starts under their belts at a thin position, but both gone.
I'm also surprised at how fast they gave up on some offensive linemen. I admit Rich Ohrenburg wasn't great, but he's young and they traded up to get him. I'll be very interested to see the practice squad.

Also they're at 54 players cause one of the OLs is suspended a game. So one guy get's cut after week one (assuming nobody gets hurt). So they're kind of just keeping an extra guy for a week.

It's like maybe Belichek is trying to sneak guys onto the practice squad.

The Pats have claimed offensive tackle steve maneri from the texans.

Practice Squad So far:

1. Sergio Brown
2. Shawn Crable (Yup, he's back!)
3. Rich Ohrnberger
4. Darnell Jenkins
5. Steve Maneri



There are still 3 spots open but both Ted Larsen and Zac Robinson have been claimed off waivers.

FYI, I don't think Maneri is part of the practice squad, but rather part of the 53 man roster.

[Donoghus]

Sunday can't come soon enough.  Can't wait to have the NFL season back.

[the_Bird]

Pats have released ILB Tyrone Mckenzie... i hope he makes it to the practice squad...

http://www.patriots.com/news/index.cfm?ac=pressreleasesdetail&pid=44332&pcid=47

Yeah, it would be good if he made it to the practice squad, just because you hate to see such a high draft pick get cut, and because he was dealing with injury all year last year.  On the other hand,  it really sounded like he didn't "get it" (from a football IQ point of view) during training camp and preseason games (based off of what I read from Mike Reiss and Albert Breer).

You hate to see such a high draft pick get cut...   but it's kind of a good thing, in a way.  Pats make mistakes with drafting, like every team, but don't hold onto their picks out of embarrassment or to try and prove themselves to be correct.  BB stresses to the rookies that where they were drafted, or even IF they were drafted, is irrelevant - and they've proven that with their actions.  

So, high draft picks like McKenzie or Chad Jackson, if they aren't cut out for the Pats they aren't kept aboard.  More importantly, undrafted players like Brian Hoyer are given just as much of an opportunity to win a job as someone picked in the third or fourth round, and every season they seem to come away from camp having found at least one or two undrafted players who help.

So, if you're an undrafted player (like Hoyer a year ago)...  where are you most likely to sign?  It's going to be a team like the Pats, who prove every year that the rookies are all working off a clean slate, they ALL have to prove themselves and they'll all be given a chance to prove themselves.  That's got to help in convincing some of these undrafted players (many of whom get multiple camp invites) to go to camp with the Pats.

EDIT: Is Holt actually on the IR?  I thought he got an injury settlement, and therefore was technically a free agent?