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Re: Big Baby in the NFL...
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2010, 03:47:13 PM »

Offline EJPLAYA

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Yes, he is my favorite player, hence my screen name. And that allows me to pay close attention to him. I've never seen you post anything positive about him. All you post about him is name-calling. You need to put on your glasses.

I'm sure you have read all my posts. If you are talking about the green tinted ones that don't allow you to be objective about a guy then I'll pass. Other than him being fat and out of shape can you give me some examples of this name calling?! The guy has huge upside but instead has decided to squander it by not getting into the shape he ought to. This hurts the team because he doesn't play to his potential. There is a guy sitting on the bench that also gives 100% effort and has produced as well as BBD is producing right now. Why we continue to hand minutes to a guy who is underachieving and isn't committed off the floor in the gym and at the dinner table is beyond me. If you call that name calling so be it. I call it expecting complete effort from the players on this team that I spend a lot of time and money following. Accepting a lack of complete effort is for the Clippers and Warriors. Not the Celtics.

Re: Big Baby in the NFL...
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2010, 04:20:06 PM »

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Him playing football would be pretty interesting.  Honestly though, I don't think he'd succeed because he hops from one obsession to the other (BBAll, MMA, acting, etc) to ever become good at one.  As soon as he started playing football he'd want to do something else.  Football takes a lot of dedication, and skill is still more important than pure size/stats.

On the other topic noted in this thread, I have said it before and I'll say it again:  Davis' hustle is very deceptive.  Where another player can simply run over and pick a ball up, Davis will trip on his own feet, fall down, crawl, and then dive for the ball as it rolls out of bounds.  Looks like hustle, but it is not. 

If you really think his hustle is all that its cracked up to be, then answer me this:  Wouldn't a hustler have gotten and stayed in the appropriate level of physical fitness?  The answer is YES, and yet Davis is not where he should be, and therefore is not a true hustler. 

Re: Big Baby in the NFL...
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2010, 04:41:27 PM »

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BBD would be a good NFL footbball player if he had chosen that sport. His new nickname would be 'the wrecking ball' though and not BBD. You can argue wether he would be able to play a lot and both ways it would be valid. What I think though would be more difficult is to find a guy with his size and brute strength in the NFL that you could make as valid an argument that the NFL player could play pro basketball. There may be some out there as I never watch football but I doubt you can make as compelling an argument that they could play pro basketball as well as Baby could play football. Thoughts?

Re: Big Baby in the NFL...
« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2010, 04:45:10 PM »

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Well, BBD was a star running back in HS.  I don't see why he could not be an NFL fullback.

Re: Big Baby in the NFL...
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2010, 04:50:54 PM »

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I'm not trying to come across the wrong way here, but I played professional football and get annoyed when NBA announcers and/or fans think basketball players could make that transition just because of their size and athleticism.

I have a friend that currently is a trainer for an NFL team, and previously worked for an NBA team. According to him, the comparison between basketball players and football players in terms of pain tolerance/toughness isn't even close.

LeBron is a phenomenal athlete, but I guarantee that one knock-out shot from Troy Polamalu/Bob Sanders/Ed Reed would end his career for good. Big Baby is tough...for an NBA player. He would get physically destroyed by NFL offensive linemen. People drastically underestimate how much pounding those guys take and give out, and how tough they truly are. In other words, Glen would last about three snaps in an NFL practice, if that. He would have no chance of making a roster, and neither would LeBron.

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« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2010, 04:58:23 PM »

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I'm not trying to come across the wrong way here, but I played professional football and get annoyed when NBA announcers and/or fans think basketball players could make that transition just because of their size and athleticism.

I have a friend that currently is a trainer for an NFL team, and previously worked for an NBA team. According to him, the comparison between basketball players and football players in terms of pain tolerance/toughness isn't even close.

LeBron is a phenomenal athlete, but I guarantee that one knock-out shot from Troy Polamalu/Bob Sanders/Ed Reed would end his career for good. Big Baby is tough...for an NBA player. He would get physically destroyed by NFL offensive linemen. People drastically underestimate how much pounding those guys take and give out, and how tough they truly are. In other words, Glen would last about three snaps in an NFL practice, if that. He would have no chance of making a roster, and neither would LeBron.

I'm sure they said the same thing about Antonio Gates.

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« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2010, 05:28:58 PM »

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I'm not trying to come across the wrong way here, but I played professional football and get annoyed when NBA announcers and/or fans think basketball players could make that transition just because of their size and athleticism.

I have a friend that currently is a trainer for an NFL team, and previously worked for an NBA team. According to him, the comparison between basketball players and football players in terms of pain tolerance/toughness isn't even close.

LeBron is a phenomenal athlete, but I guarantee that one knock-out shot from Troy Polamalu/Bob Sanders/Ed Reed would end his career for good. Big Baby is tough...for an NBA player. He would get physically destroyed by NFL offensive linemen. People drastically underestimate how much pounding those guys take and give out, and how tough they truly are. In other words, Glen would last about three snaps in an NFL practice, if that. He would have no chance of making a roster, and neither would LeBron.

TP good post.

I hadn't even considered the mental aspect of the game.  If KG yelling and any number of things cause Davis to cry, I doubt he'd last long in the NFL world.  And if the one time he got in a fight, with a friend nonetheless, he lost and broke his hand, then the physical game of the NFL wouldn't be for him.

Still, I think he has too many interests in life to devout himself to any one sport or career

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« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2010, 06:37:20 PM »

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I'm not trying to come across the wrong way here, but I played professional football and get annoyed when NBA announcers and/or fans think basketball players could make that transition just because of their size and athleticism.

I have a friend that currently is a trainer for an NFL team, and previously worked for an NBA team. According to him, the comparison between basketball players and football players in terms of pain tolerance/toughness isn't even close.

LeBron is a phenomenal athlete, but I guarantee that one knock-out shot from Troy Polamalu/Bob Sanders/Ed Reed would end his career for good. Big Baby is tough...for an NBA player. He would get physically destroyed by NFL offensive linemen. People drastically underestimate how much pounding those guys take and give out, and how tough they truly are. In other words, Glen would last about three snaps in an NFL practice, if that. He would have no chance of making a roster, and neither would LeBron.

I'm sure they said the same thing about Antonio Gates.

And Moss and Peppers. 

He would be the most athletic big man in the NFL.  I don't care if he cries in between plays. 

Your saying that because these guys chose to play basketball instead of football that it means that they are too soft to play football.  You're not basing it off of size and speed and great hands.  Your saying that if Baby was a fullback and was running a goal line play that he wouldn't get in the end zone because he doesn't have the mental makeup to bowl over guys that are smaller than him.  What do you think would happen if Bob Sanders and Big Baby met in short yardage situations?  You think physics would take that play off?   

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« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2010, 10:56:05 PM »

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Well, EJPLaya, how about tonight? You asked..here you go. Davis was one of 5 top scorers with 13 pts, 4 rebounds and 1 assist. Davis was 6 out of 8 shooting and made 2 jump shots in the 4th qtr. Davis stopped Detroit baskets several times and played defense like a maniac. He had one turnover but no shots blocked. He looked lean and muscular tonight. Yeah he'd be good at whatever he tried. That's his talent.

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« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2010, 11:20:07 PM »

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The way Glen Davis has played the last few games, the thread title should be:

"Big Baby in the NBA"....

Re: Big Baby in the NFL...
« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2010, 11:26:27 PM »

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I dont think that anyone here is saying that any NBA player could easily transition to pro football. I think the thread just said Baby in the NFL and probably was asking people's opinion on the idea. I certainly don't think that BBD could go straight from his position in the NBA to the NFL. However, if he had grown up playing strictly football then his muscle development would be totally different. He has the strength to play pro football and don't fool yourself into thinking he doesnt. If football was his game he could easily pack 40 additional pounds of brute force muscle into that frame. Someone here said they hated it when people just assume that an NBA player could just easily transition into the NFL. I find it annoying when people say how incredibly strong pro football players are but dont give any credence to the notiion that pro basketball players are very strong too. I would be willing to bet large sums of money that there is not a pro football player in the league currently or the last ten years who could do what Shaq did years ago when he toppled the basket support, goal, backboard and all. That takes not only strength and power but also a tremendous amount of athleticism.

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« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2010, 11:58:39 PM »

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Antonio Gates was a basketball player, a power forward who led his underdog team to the elite 8.  He never played college football.  He was undersized, so the NBA wasn't interested. He was also undrafted by the NFL, but a couple of teams gave him workouts.

The rest is history, including multiple seasons as an all pro tight end.

So I wouldn't be so quick to write off basketball players as "soft."

In fact, the NFL players have it easy.  The play 16 games instead of 82.  They play either offense or defense, not both.  They get to rest between plays.

I dare anyone to mention a single pro football player who could make it in the NBA. I can't.

Leyt me add that I played both sports in HS, and basketball was much more physically demanding.

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« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2010, 11:59:21 PM »

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If Baby had stayed in football, he'd be in the NFL right now, barring injury.  Just imagine him in a sport where gaining bulk is an advantage and vertical leap isn't nearly as important.

If he tried to switch now I'm sure someone would give him a look but I can't see him sticking in any permanent sense.  And as others have pointed out there's some mental toughness issues that might keep him from reaching whatever his physical potential would be in the NFL.

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« Reply #28 on: March 16, 2010, 12:01:50 AM »

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Glen Davis was a defensive lineman and tailback in high school.  Here's some footage on Youtube of Big Baby playing high school football.




Brock Lesnar was enough of a physical specimen that the Vikings were willing to give him a tryout and liked him enough to recommend that he play in NFL Europe.  Davis has a shot at doing something similar.
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Re: Big Baby in the NFL...
« Reply #29 on: March 16, 2010, 12:03:57 AM »

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Well, BBD was a star running back in HS.  I don't see why he could not be an NFL fullback.
Mostly because high school success doesn't equal pro football success

He does not have the speed to be a running back or full back in the NFL

He might have been an okay TE, maybe in college but he just doesn't have the mental toughness or the speed or explosion to have made it anywhere close to the NFL.
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