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2009-10 Biggest player flops
« on: March 10, 2010, 12:39:45 PM »

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I know we have had a few threads discussing who might be the most improved player in the nba and a lot of people have pushed for Rondo. However, this had me thinking who is the most regressed player in the NBA. For this discussion I would say there is no point to include players that have battled injuries all season (Michael Redd comes to mind) or players that imploded for off the court things (hello arenas). Here are a few names that came to mind.

On our own team you might have to say Rasheed Wallace because his 3p% has gone down from a steady 35% the last few seasons to 28% this season. His rebounding is also down significantly by about 3.5 per game (probably should have gone down 1.5 from the reduction in minutes)

On other teams I was shocked to see what Richard Hamilton was doing this season. We all think of him as a good shooter however, when researching his stats for the pick two thread I noticed he is shooting 26.5% from 3 point land. This was probably the most shocking statistic I have seen all season.

Up north our old nemesis Hedo Turkolo is averaging 12.3 points a game and shooting 41% from the field. I cant say that is what the Raptors expected when they signed him and may be one of the main reasons we currently hold a healthy lead over them in the division.

Out West Richard Jefferson jumps to mind with the spurs. Brought in to make them a title contender he has not really found his role. Though his shooting averages are about the same, his scoring has dropped from 19.5 to 12 this year despite still playing heavy minutes.

I am sure there other guys out there that can be contributed to this list, but these are just a few that jumped to mind.

Re: 2009-10 Biggest player flops
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2010, 12:49:18 PM »

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what about a gun toting, oft injured, overpaid wizard?

Re: 2009-10 Biggest player flops
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2010, 01:01:03 PM »

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To Richard Hamilton's defense,he was injured this season for awhile and hasn't got on track like his old self.
 
Mario Chalmers(Heat) in my opinion has regressed a bit,went from being a starting pg to buried behind the backup for a minute.Now he is the primary backup to Carlos.

Im not overly impressed with Perkins this season..im not going as far as saying he is a flop but he seems to be regressing a bit.His game is at a standstill in my opinion,not much growth this season.
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2010, 01:15:23 PM »

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what about a gun toting, oft injured, overpaid wizard?

TP for stating what should have been obvious to me.

He single handedly changed the future of that franchise with his decisions. This was supposed to be a bounce back year for him and his team. Now they are left with none of the core players they started the year with. It's pretty amazing.

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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2010, 01:20:21 PM »

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what about a gun toting, oft injured, overpaid wizard?

TP for stating what should have been obvious to me.

He single handedly changed the future of that franchise with his decisions. This was supposed to be a bounce back year for him and his team. Now they are left with none of the core players they started the year with. It's pretty amazing.

Uhh guys did you miss the part where I said not to include him in my intro cause it was off the court?

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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2010, 01:23:35 PM »

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Arenas and Iverson top my list.  These guys can't even manage to stay on their teams.  As for Perk, he was so good for the first couple months that now it seems like he has regressed.  But I think he's about the same as he was last year.

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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2010, 03:36:44 PM »

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Iverson was a big bust for two different teams, though it wasn't that surprising.  He couldn't accept a supporting role (6th man or bench player), so his career is over.

Richard Jefferson is definitely a big bust - a rare miscalculation for the Spurs organization.  He doesn't seem to fit with their team at all. 

Al Jefferson has been kind of disappointing, taking a lot longer to come back from his injury than expected and also not helping his team win many games at all.  I didn't expect the Timberwolves to actually be worse this year.

Rasheed Wallace definitely qualifies, although I think it's in part because people had higher expectations for him than they should have.  With the benefit of hindsight, though, adding him to the team definitely wasn't as big a help as anybody thought it would be.  It's pretty laughable now looking back to the beginning of the season when some people though Rasheed might contend for 6th man of the year.

I'm disappointed that Anthony Randolph hasn't really done much this season.  More than a few people talked about him as a potential Most Improved Player candidate, yet he hasn't played more than 20 mpg and is currently out with an injury.  A lot of that can be attributed to Don Nelson, who never plays young big men who can't shoot (he'd rather play Anthony Tolliver than Andris Biedrins), and insists on putting AR at center when he's really a pure PF.  I was really hoping Randolph would get traded to a team that would actually utilize and develop his considerable talents.  He's still super young so it's not too late by any means, though.

Michael Beasley hasn't made much a splash at all in the NBA so far, which is fairly surprising.  He wasn't fantastic in his first year but he did show quite a bit of potential.  I haven't watched the Heat much this year, but from what I've read and seen it doesn't appear that Beasley has shown much improvement in his game this year.  That's got to be disheartening for Heat fans considering he was the #2 overall in '08.
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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2010, 03:42:00 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2010, 03:43:25 PM »

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what about a gun toting, oft injured, overpaid wizard?

TP for stating what should have been obvious to me.

He single handedly changed the future of that franchise with his decisions. This was supposed to be a bounce back year for him and his team. Now they are left with none of the core players they started the year with. It's pretty amazing.

Uhh guys did you miss the part where I said not to include him in my intro cause it was off the court?

No Yes sorry  :-[

He was pretty bad before that happened too. I guess I would go with Vince Carter. I really thought he would look interested playing on his first bonafied contender in his career.
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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2010, 04:08:03 PM »

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Regarding Rip Hamilton and his shooting, yes, his shooting this year has been bad, but his three point shooting has never been consistently good from year to year

He's had years shooting the three ball of 27.4%, 26.5%, 26.9% and 30.5%

Having a horrible year shooting the three ball is not an uncommon thing for Rip though he usually makes up for that by being a pretty good shooter from 2
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« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2010, 04:21:28 PM »

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I gotta think that if you ask the Kings they are going to sat Spencer Hawes and Jason Thompson have been huge disappointments on the court, especially in 2010

I think Golden State has to be pretty upset with what Andris Biedrins has done this year

Previously mentioned Richard Jefferson in San Antonio

People in Indiana can't be happy with Mike Dunleavy's play since returning from injury, as he paid like a major starter and contributing like a bit role player

Lastly, Toronto can't be happy with the step back of Jose Calderon as he looked ready to take a step forward like Rondo did and become a preeminent PG in this league and now he's coming off the bench backing up Jarrett Jack
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« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2010, 04:24:22 PM »

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Ah yes, that reminds me...Devin Harris has been pretty disappointing this year after making his first All-Star game last year.

Danny Granger has also been kind of underwhelming, actually regressing a bit after his MIP season.

Both of those players are on woefully bad teams, though, so it's probably more a lack of effort than anything else.  You can't really blame them, especially Devin.
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« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2010, 04:32:49 PM »

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  Funny. I completely ignored this thread because I was expecting to see youtube of flopping, mainly by euros.

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« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2010, 04:44:11 PM »

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  Funny. I completely ignored this thread because I was expecting to see youtube of flopping, mainly by euros.

How about belly flops?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf1FSpL6G5U

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« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2010, 04:53:34 PM »

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