Has Perkins let it go to his head?

[LB3533]

Perk's offensive efficiency has gone down the last 3 months.

His defense has also regressed, blocking less than 1.5 shots per game in the last 1 month or so.

The more we go to him offensively, the more his turnovers will go up and the more his FG% will decrease.

[Bankshot]

Perk's offensive efficiency has gone down the last 3 months.

His defense has also regressed, blocking less than 1.5 shots per game in the last 1 month or so.

The more we go to him offensively, the more his turnovers will go up and the more his FG% will decrease.

Is this the same guy who wanted more shots?

[celticsclay]

I think it really got into Perk's head. Also, the team is going to him more often but I just don't understand why the C's keep going to Perk in the post when they desperately need to score on a possession, they did it all the time during their terrible stretch in January/February and they kept doing it again and again last night until Doc pulled Perk out of the game.

It's just terrible decision making from both Perk and his teammates. From Perk, because he should really only go for his own shot when there is a lot of time left in the clock and he can work on his defender. From his teammates, because they know he is not going to make a pass so this possession will either result in a miss or a turnover when the opponents double team him (or just send a guy to help, his mere sight will make Perk panic and fumble the ball).

Perk needs to get back to his role of a defensive stopper first. His offense is at its best when he is just cutting for Rondo's passes or getting his move on some definite occasions.

But I think that last night's game was also one of his worst because he was frustrated of getting killed by Bogut on every possession (you can't blame Perk for not trying, he just can't guard Bogut, too mobile and too strong), so he wanted to get back at him on the other end... the problem is Perk is nowhere near Bogut offensively.

Bogut has certainly become a lot better player then I would have ever expected. However, back to Perk one has to wonder if having Rasheed on the team has messed with his confidance a little bit. With the way Doc plays Rasheed it seems to suggest he thinks the team is better with rasheed in there (wallace playing down the stretches of games and so many minutes). Being the hard working guy that he is, Perk probably wants to improve his numbers and reputation every year. This year he has been unable to with Wallace there, so he is pressing.

[hpantazo]

I think it really got into Perk's head. Also, the team is going to him more often but I just don't understand why the C's keep going to Perk in the post when they desperately need to score on a possession, they did it all the time during their terrible stretch in January/February and they kept doing it again and again last night until Doc pulled Perk out of the game.

It's just terrible decision making from both Perk and his teammates. From Perk, because he should really only go for his own shot when there is a lot of time left in the clock and he can work on his defender. From his teammates, because they know he is not going to make a pass so this possession will either result in a miss or a turnover when the opponents double team him (or just send a guy to help, his mere sight will make Perk panic and fumble the ball).

Perk needs to get back to his role of a defensive stopper first. His offense is at its best when he is just cutting for Rondo's passes or getting his move on some definite occasions.

But I think that last night's game was also one of his worst because he was frustrated of getting killed by Bogut on every possession (you can't blame Perk for not trying, he just can't guard Bogut, too mobile and too strong), so he wanted to get back at him on the other end... the problem is Perk is nowhere near Bogut offensively.

Bogut has certainly become a lot better player then I would have ever expected. However, back to Perk one has to wonder if having Rasheed on the team has messed with his confidance a little bit. With the way Doc plays Rasheed it seems to suggest he thinks the team is better with rasheed in there (wallace playing down the stretches of games and so many minutes). Being the hard working guy that he is, Perk probably wants to improve his numbers and reputation every year. This year he has been unable to with Wallace there, so he is pressing.

this may be the case. If so, someone should remind Perk that it's his defense and team play that gets him playing time, not his offense. His offense will never be better than Sheed's, but his defense can keep him on the floor in crunch time if he keeps the ball moving to other guys on offense.

[Who]

Yes, I do think so. I also think that Perk has been a disruptive influence in the team and when the players have been talking about the team not being on the same page they were primarily talking about Perk's need for shots hurting their performances.

[angryguy77]

Don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but did anyone notice Perk walking up the court just before Rondo had a charge called against him with about 4 minutes left in the game?

This is just a microchosim of whats wrong with this team. I was so disgusted after I saw that, I almost tunred the game off. At that point in the game, there is no reason for that sort of behavior. He wasn't injured, he just took the play off and its that sort of mentality that causes so many of us fans to be p---ed at this team. It's not that they won't win 66 games this year, or that they are not leading the league in wins. Its the way they lost and have lost most of their games this year.

Doc has a team that is admitting to us that they are not giving it their all. These guys that are walking through this season should be benched in place of the guys who give a [dang]. I don't care if it's Pierce or KG, Doc should have sent a message to these guys long ago. Maybe it would have helped avoid a lot of the problems this season.

[looseball]

If Perk got 10 rebounds to go with his 10 points a game, I'd be satisfied with his performance.

[Who]

Don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but did anyone notice Perk walking up the court just before Rondo had a charge called against him with about 4 minutes left in the game?

This is just a microchosim of whats wrong with this team. I was so disgusted after I saw that, I almost tunred the game off. At that point in the game, there is no reason for that sort of behavior. He wasn't injured, he just took the play off and its that sort of mentality that causes so many of us fans to be ****ed at this team. It's not that they won't win 66 games this year, or that they are not leading the league in wins. Its the way they lost and have lost most of their games this year.

Doc has a team that is admitting to us that they are not giving it their all. These guys that are walking through this season should be benched in place of the guys who give a [dang]. I don't care if it's Pierce or KG, Doc should have sent a message to these guys long ago. Maybe it would have helped avoid a lot of the problems this season.

Perk's lackadaisical play on that possession bugged me too.

[Adelaide Celt]

Don't know if this has been mentioned yet, but did anyone notice Perk walking up the court just before Rondo had a charge called against him with about 4 minutes left in the game?

This is just a microchosim of whats wrong with this team. I was so disgusted after I saw that, I almost tunred the game off. At that point in the game, there is no reason for that sort of behavior. He wasn't injured, he just took the play off and its that sort of mentality that causes so many of us fans to be ****ed at this team. It's not that they won't win 66 games this year, or that they are not leading the league in wins. Its the way they lost and have lost most of their games this year.

Doc has a team that is admitting to us that they are not giving it their all. These guys that are walking through this season should be benched in place of the guys who give a [dang]. I don't care if it's Pierce or KG, Doc should have sent a message to these guys long ago. Maybe it would have helped avoid a lot of the problems this season.

Noticed that one too.

What agitated me even more though was Perk's body language after Bogut scored (I think) his last basket on Perk, with about 1-2 minutes left.

He absolutely trudged back up the floor, with his head hanging so low it looked like he was trying to read some microscopic text written on the floor.

I understand he felt dejected after being beaten by Bogut but that was not the time and place to start feeling sorry for yourself.

Perk needs to get on the angry pills again, now!

[PosImpos]

Perk gets it so often in the post because he's the only player on the team who consistently operates and attempts to score in the post.

In order to have a balanced offense, you need to have a down-low scoring threat and threats from outside.  If the Celtics don't establish Perk down low, they don't really have any other options because Garnett and Wallace hang out 15-20 feet away from the basket.  It's really difficult to "establish" Perk down there, though, because he's not a top scoring option.  He's at his best when he's an afterthought on offense, for the Celtics and the other team - that's how he can get good looks.

So the problem isn't Perk, really, but rather that the team has nobody else who can do what Perk does (and even Perk doesn't really do it).

[FatjohnReturns]

Perk gets it so often in the post because he's the only player on the team who consistently operates and attempts to score in the post.

In order to have a balanced offense, you need to have a down-low scoring threat and threats from outside.  If the Celtics don't establish Perk down low, they don't really have any other options because Garnett and Wallace hang out 15-20 feet away from the basket.  It's really difficult to "establish" Perk down there, though, because he's not a top scoring option.  He's at his best when he's an afterthought on offense, for the Celtics and the other team - that's how he can get good looks.

So the problem isn't Perk, really, but rather that the team has nobody else who can do what Perk does (and even Perk doesn't really do it).

http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=36138.0

[PosImpos]

Perk gets it so often in the post because he's the only player on the team who consistently operates and attempts to score in the post.

In order to have a balanced offense, you need to have a down-low scoring threat and threats from outside.  If the Celtics don't establish Perk down low, they don't really have any other options because Garnett and Wallace hang out 15-20 feet away from the basket.  It's really difficult to "establish" Perk down there, though, because he's not a top scoring option.  He's at his best when he's an afterthought on offense, for the Celtics and the other team - that's how he can get good looks.

So the problem isn't Perk, really, but rather that the team has nobody else who can do what Perk does (and even Perk doesn't really do it).

http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=36138.0

I agree that Paul should try to post up more (and generally try to score inside more often) but it's difficult to establish an inside game with your SF as your primary option - especially one who's 6'7''. 

Considering the fact that Rondo and Perk can't shoot from outside, it's also important to have Paul on the wings to spread the floor and open up the defense so a guy like Perk can score and rebound.

[rav123]

I don't mind so much Perkins as I mind the team going to him as often as they do. It's ridiculous, and ineffective. Same to dumping the ball to Baby in the post. What is it about this Celtics offensive system that has all the players getting the ball more often than they should in places where they're not effective?

Yeah, it's not really Perk, but the fact he is getting the ball. But why is he getting the ball - is it because he is demanding more touches? 'Cuz I don't think Doc would really want to give it to him when we need a bucket. Same with Baby, I think Doc is only giving him the ball to appease him.

[rav123]

Perk gets it so often in the post because he's the only player on the team who consistently operates and attempts to score in the post.

In order to have a balanced offense, you need to have a down-low scoring threat and threats from outside.  If the Celtics don't establish Perk down low, they don't really have any other options because Garnett and Wallace hang out 15-20 feet away from the basket.  It's really difficult to "establish" Perk down there, though, because he's not a top scoring option.  He's at his best when he's an afterthought on offense, for the Celtics and the other team - that's how he can get good looks.

So the problem isn't Perk, really, but rather that the team has nobody else who can do what Perk does (and even Perk doesn't really do it).

The point of this is to get the big-man double-teamed, or occupy a defender, and then kick out to the open man. However, Perk doesn't demand much attention at all, so passing it to him in the post does not exactly give us an inside-outside game.

[PosImpos]

Perk gets it so often in the post because he's the only player on the team who consistently operates and attempts to score in the post.

In order to have a balanced offense, you need to have a down-low scoring threat and threats from outside.  If the Celtics don't establish Perk down low, they don't really have any other options because Garnett and Wallace hang out 15-20 feet away from the basket.  It's really difficult to "establish" Perk down there, though, because he's not a top scoring option.  He's at his best when he's an afterthought on offense, for the Celtics and the other team - that's how he can get good looks.

So the problem isn't Perk, really, but rather that the team has nobody else who can do what Perk does (and even Perk doesn't really do it).

The point of this is to get the big-man double-teamed, or occupy a defender, and then kick out to the open man. However, Perk doesn't demand much attention at all, so passing it to him in the post does not exactly give us an inside-outside game.

Yes, Perkins' inability to pass out of the post definitely hurts us as well.  Again, though, I don't blame him so much as I blame the fact that the Celtics have no other reliable threat down low.  Because they need some kind of inside game, they have to go to him even though he's really not a reliable or desirable option on offense most of the time.