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Which rookie guards drafted in the first round do you think will be the biggest successes long term? (Vote for upto 5)

James Harden - Thunder
4 (4.5%)
Tyreke Evans - Kings
17 (19.3%)
Ricky Rubio - TWolves
4 (4.5%)
Jonny Flynn - TWolves
4 (4.5%)
Stephen Curry - Warriors
17 (19.3%)
Brandon Jennings - Bucks
16 (18.2%)
Gerald Henderson - Bobcats
0 (0%)
Jrue Holiday - 76ers
1 (1.1%)
Ty Lawson - Denver
9 (10.2%)
Jeff Teague - Atlanta
0 (0%)
Eric Maynor - Thunder
0 (0%)
Darren Collison - Hornets
12 (13.6%)
Rodrique Beaubois - Mavericks
3 (3.4%)
Wayne Ellington - TWolves
1 (1.1%)
Toney Douglas - Knicks
0 (0%)

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Rank the rookie guards
« on: March 08, 2010, 04:57:08 PM »

Offline PLamb

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So as the season passes 60 games for just about everyone and we get to look back a bit, I think it can now be determined that those calling last year's draft one of the weakest in recent memory(like me) were pretty much completely and utterly wrong

Instead, what we got is a draft they may be considered, long term, one of the deepest drafts ever seen in quality young guards

- Brandon Jennings once scored 55 points
- Tyreke Evans has been so good the Kings decided to trade away a 27 year old guard that has averaged over 23 PPG for the last three seasons
- Stephen Curry, once given the full reins in Golden State as it's starting PG has been averaging 21 PPG, 7.5 APG and 5 RPG
- The Timberwolves are so happy with Jonny Flynn they have started him every game instead of a third year vet they signed for 4 years and $16 million
- Mark Cuban likes Rodrique Beaubois so much he said before the deadline the only player not on the trading blocks was Beaubois
- Ty Lawson has played so well in sooo mny facets of the game that many have commented that he plays like a grizzled veteran
- Darren Collison has stepped in for injured superstar PG Chris Paul and has ONLY posted numbers of 19 PPG, 8.3 APG and 3.4 RPG as a starter and have made pundits wonder aloud what do the Hornets now do with TWO outstanding starting PGs
- James Harden has been coming off the bench all year for the Thunder and is shooting 39% from three, 81% from the FT line and has scored in double figures in 28 of 62 games
- The Timberwolves own the rights to what most people called the best guard in the draft, Ricky Rubio, who is still playing overseas
- And there were others that get overlooked due to the depth of this draft and the fact that they actually play like....well....rokkie guards Jrue Holiday, Gerald Henderson,  Toney Douglas, Wayne Ellington, Jeff Teague and Eric Maynor

So if you had to rank the rookie PGs how would you rank them?

For me:

Top 5 Rookie Guards
1. Tyreke Evans
2. Stephen Curry
3. Ty Lawson
4. Brandon Jennings
5. Darren Collison

Top 5 That Will Have Best Career
1. Stephen Curry
2. Ty Lawson
3. Ricky Rubio
4. Rodrique Beaubois
5. Tyreke Evans

Top 5 Scorers Long Term
1. Tyreke Evans
2. James Harden
3  Stephen Curry
4. Rodrique Beabois
5. Ricky Rubio

Top 5 Passers Long Term
1. Ricky Rubio
2. Darren Collison
3. Ty Lawson
4. Stephen Curry
5. Brandon Jennings


Again, all the above are just my opinion
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PG: George Hill, Ty Lawson
SG: Ray Allen, Anthony Parker, Quentin Richardson
SF: Grant Hill, Matt Barnes, D
PF: Zach Randolph, Kenyon Martin, Jon Brockman, Dante Cunningham
C:  Nene Hilario,   Own rights: Nikola Pekovic IR: Kyle Weaver
Re: Rank the rookie guards
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2010, 05:01:18 PM »

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I think you are underrating Jennings longterm.  I see him as being Rondo with a better jumpshot. 
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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2010, 05:03:14 PM »

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I had the same 5 as Nick. I can't think straight enough to rank em right now.
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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2010, 05:05:02 PM »

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(1) Tyreke Evans
(2) Steph Curry
(3) Ricky Rubio
(4) Brandon Jennings

(5) Rodrigue Beaubois

(6) Darren Collison
(7) James Harden
(8  Jrue Holiday


(9) Ty Lawson
(10) Jeff Teague


(11) Eric Maynor
(12) Toney Douglas
(13) Gerald Henderson


(14) Jonny Flynn
(15) Wayne Ellington
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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2010, 05:08:43 PM »

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Tyreke Evans
Stephen Curry
Brandon Jennings
Darren Collison
Rodrigue Beaubois

Ty Lawson
James Harden
Jonny Flynn
Eric Maynor
Ricky Rubio
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Re: Rank the rookie guards
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2010, 05:34:33 PM »

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Quote from: Chris on March 08, 2010, 05:01:18 PM
I think you are underrating Jennings longterm.  I see him as being Rondo with a better jumpshot. 
I don't think he's will be anywhere near what Rondo is

Rondo has always been efficient from inside 10-15 feet and poor from beyond

Jennings is very much the opposite

Rondo is a distributor and facilitator

Jennings is much more a scoring PG

Rondo is at his best driving to the basket and finishing or distributing

Jennings is better around the perimeter

I don't see that Jennings will become anything like Rondo

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PG: George Hill, Ty Lawson
SG: Ray Allen, Anthony Parker, Quentin Richardson
SF: Grant Hill, Matt Barnes, D
PF: Zach Randolph, Kenyon Martin, Jon Brockman, Dante Cunningham
C:  Nene Hilario,   Own rights: Nikola Pekovic IR: Kyle Weaver
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« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2010, 06:02:53 PM »

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Speed Kills:i think once most of these rookies settle in for a few yrs.they will lose their blazing speed and their skills as a player will have to kick in even more,James Harden in my opinion already has an "old mans game",which makes me think he will be able to adapt to an NBA team with success better than most.
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« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2010, 07:18:28 PM »

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Quote from: PLamb on March 08, 2010, 05:34:33 PM
Quote from: Chris on March 08, 2010, 05:01:18 PM
I think you are underrating Jennings longterm.  I see him as being Rondo with a better jumpshot. 
I don't think he's will be anywhere near what Rondo is

Rondo has always been efficient from inside 10-15 feet and poor from beyond

Jennings is very much the opposite

Rondo is a distributor and facilitator

Jennings is much more a scoring PG

Rondo is at his best driving to the basket and finishing or distributing

Jennings is better around the perimeter

I don't see that Jennings will become anything like Rondo



Disagree big time.  He looks to  score so much because he plays in Milwaukee and has too. The only other player on the team is Bogut...and I guess Salmons I forgot they traded for him.  If he had KG, Pierce, or Allen to pass to he'd easily average double digit assist. 
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« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2010, 07:23:43 PM »

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the five i voted were (in no order):

jennings
curry
lawson
evans
holiday
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« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2010, 07:26:28 PM »

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The absence of Wesley Matthews is appalling.
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« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2010, 07:32:40 PM »

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My top 5 in order:

Tyreke Evans
Stephon Curry
Brandon Jennings
Darren Collison
Johnny Flynn

Guys that just missed the cut (in no order):
James Harden
Wes Matthews
Marcus Thornton
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Re: Rank the rookie guards
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2010, 06:49:28 PM »

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Quote from: Chris on March 08, 2010, 05:01:18 PM
I think you are underrating Jennings longterm.  I see him as being Rondo with a better jumpshot. 
lol that would be the greatest point guard of all time. Jennings is no where near rondo in finishing close to the basket or on defense. I love Jennings though reminds me of AI with court vision he is going to be scary good.
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« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2010, 06:51:35 PM »

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Quote from: PLamb on March 08, 2010, 05:34:33 PM
Quote from: Chris on March 08, 2010, 05:01:18 PM
I think you are underrating Jennings longterm.  I see him as being Rondo with a better jumpshot. 
I don't think he's will be anywhere near what Rondo is

Rondo has always been efficient from inside 10-15 feet and poor from beyond

Jennings is very much the opposite

Rondo is a distributor and facilitator

Jennings is much more a scoring PG

Rondo is at his best driving to the basket and finishing or distributing

Jennings is better around the perimeter

I don't see that Jennings will become anything like Rondo


Not true Jennings is very much a pass first player, don't rate the guy essentially on one 55 point game and an attention seeking haircut, Jennings can see the court with the best of them.
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« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2010, 07:30:24 PM »

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TyFreak, Curry and Jennings are all beasts.

Rubio may be as well.

Flynn, Collison and Harden the next tier down.

Then Lawson.

Great draft class for little dudes.
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« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2010, 07:58:10 PM »

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5 I voted for (in no particular order)

Tyreke Evans
Stephon Curry
James Harden
Brendan Jennings
Darren Collison
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