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Re: Rumor : The Celtics are still after Jamison according to CavsInsider
« Reply #30 on: February 16, 2010, 08:30:48 PM »

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makin all these trades and changes now is like starting over..wait till summer..we can make the playoffs east finals for sure

Not a chance in heck that we make the east finals. The CAVS, MAGIC, and HAWKS would all beat us in a series. The Raptors would give us all we wanted. This team is at BEST a 2nd round out the way we are playing. Only way we make the conf finals is with a fully healthy Garnett. I don't think this trade makes us any better though.

We would destroy the Raptors, with or without a healthy KG, as we have for the last 3 seasons.  I agree with the rest though.

With the way they're playing and the way WE'RE playing I doubt we'd destroy anyone. We can't destroy the BAD teams in the league anymore let alone a solid one.

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makin all these trades and changes now is like starting over..wait till summer..we can make the playoffs east finals for sure

Not a chance in heck that we make the east finals. The CAVS, MAGIC, and HAWKS would all beat us in a series. The Raptors would give us all we wanted. This team is at BEST a 2nd round out the way we are playing. Only way we make the conf finals is with a fully healthy Garnett. I don't think this trade makes us any better though.

  We've played like garbage for over a month and Orlando and Atlanta are both tied with us in the loss column. If either Paul or KG had avoided injury since late December we'd be far enough ahead of both of them that they'd have pretty much ceded 2nd place to us, and we'd comfortably finish the year with the 3rd best record in the league. Saying there's no way we could beat those teams in the playoffs is ridiculous.

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« Reply #32 on: February 16, 2010, 08:35:45 PM »

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makin all these trades and changes now is like starting over..wait till summer..we can make the playoffs east finals for sure

Not a chance in heck that we make the east finals. The CAVS, MAGIC, and HAWKS would all beat us in a series. The Raptors would give us all we wanted. This team is at BEST a 2nd round out the way we are playing. Only way we make the conf finals is with a fully healthy Garnett. I don't think this trade makes us any better though.

We would destroy the Raptors, with or without a healthy KG, as we have for the last 3 seasons.  I agree with the rest though.

With the way they're playing and the way WE'RE playing I doubt we'd destroy anyone. We can't destroy the BAD teams in the league anymore let alone a solid one.

  Yes, if the playoffs began in late January we'd be in serious trouble. If they'd began in early December we'd have cruised to the finals. We'll see what April brings.

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« Reply #33 on: February 16, 2010, 08:42:08 PM »

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Think about it.

Unless KG's condition is much more serious than is being shown, (It can't be that bad if he's playing minutes in the all-star game), then why the heck would the Celtics bring this guy on?  Look at his contract.

Look at the contract they gave Sheed.  If they can find a buyer for Sheed, I think they'd have few problems bringing in Jamison.  

KG is a 30 minute player now, and, given his declining mobility, an increasing amount of those minutes should probably be at the 5.  That means we could use a good 4 for 20-30 minutes a game, and neither Baby nor Sheed have shown the ability to be good 4s this season.  Both have struggled mightily at guarding 4s and making open jumpers.

Jamison's a very good 4, and if you boot Sheed off the team, his contract isn't unpalatable.  

It would become a problem if the team wants to resign Perk to a lucrative deal, but I'm not so sure that's the case.

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Re: Rumor : The Celtics are still after Jamison according to CavsInsider
« Reply #34 on: February 16, 2010, 08:54:32 PM »

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Think about it.

Unless KG's condition is much more serious than is being shown, (It can't be that bad if he's playing minutes in the all-star game), then why the heck would the Celtics bring this guy on?  Look at his contract.

Look at the contract they gave Sheed.  If they can find a buyer for Sheed, I think they'd have few problems bringing in Jamison.  

KG is a 30 minute player now, and, given his declining mobility, an increasing amount of those minutes should probably be at the 5.  That means we could use a good 4 for 20-30 minutes a game, and neither Baby nor Sheed have shown the ability to be good 4s this season.  Both have struggled mightily at guarding 4s and making open jumpers.

Jamison's a very good 4, and if you boot Sheed off the team, his contract isn't unpalatable.  

It would become a problem if the team wants to resign Perk to a lucrative deal, but I'm not so sure that's the case.



If we could acquire Jamison, I would be willing to deal Sheed as well.

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« Reply #35 on: February 16, 2010, 08:55:36 PM »

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Think about it.

Unless KG's condition is much more serious than is being shown, (It can't be that bad if he's playing minutes in the all-star game), then why the heck would the Celtics bring this guy on?  Look at his contract.

Look at the contract they gave Sheed.  If they can find a buyer for Sheed, I think they'd have few problems bringing in Jamison.  

KG is a 30 minute player now, and, given his declining mobility, an increasing amount of those minutes should probably be at the 5.  That means we could use a good 4 for 20-30 minutes a game, and neither Baby nor Sheed have shown the ability to be good 4s this season.  Both have struggled mightily at guarding 4s and making open jumpers.

Jamison's a very good 4, and if you boot Sheed off the team, his contract isn't unpalatable.  

It would become a problem if the team wants to resign Perk to a lucrative deal, but I'm not so sure that's the case.



The numbers between Sheed & Jamison are pretty significant.  In Sheed, you're talking about a bench guy who'll only be on the hook for $6-7 million a year.  For me, that's affordable for a bench player.  In Jamison, you're getting a guy who'll be at over $13 million next year and $15 million the year after that.

Wallace, for all his flaws, gets you a lot more bang for the buck, IMO.  

If Jamison enough of an increase in talent to justify the payroll you'll be taking on?  For a bench guy, mind you?  

The answer to me is "No".

I'm also in the seeming minority here that thinks that Sheed will be a valuable asset for us coming playoff time and I'm not ready to give up on him after half a regular season.


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