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Re: Idea: Deng, Salmons or Hinrich & Pargo for Ray Allen & Giddens
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2010, 11:49:39 AM »

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To say I'd be pleased with the possibility of getting Deng/Hinrich/Thomas would be an understatement. I'd cream myself if we could steal 2-3 of those guys.

Deng/Hinrich/Thomas for Ray/Scal/JR works in trade checker.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ygm56gn

That would be the heist of the century.  I'd throw in two firsts to get that done.

Chicago seems like the most logical trade partner at this point.

There appears to be a great deal of interest in Thomas, provided you don't need to take a contract to get him. So I would imagine the Bulls would split him up from Deng in any trade. They'll certainly get better value that way.
I think you're right.  Deng is the prize that comes with taking a bad contract, and Thomas has value on his own.  Just a pipedream suggestion on my part.

Re: Idea: Deng, Salmons or Hinrich & Pargo for Ray Allen & Giddens
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2010, 12:01:32 PM »

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To say I'd be pleased with the possibility of getting Deng/Hinrich/Thomas would be an understatement. I'd cream myself if we could steal 2-3 of those guys.

Deng/Hinrich/Thomas for Ray/Scal/JR works in trade checker.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ygm56gn

That would be the heist of the century.  I'd throw in two firsts to get that done.

Chicago seems like the most logical trade partner at this point.

There appears to be a great deal of interest in Thomas, provided you don't need to take a contract to get him. So I would imagine the Bulls would split him up from Deng in any trade. They'll certainly get better value that way.
I think you're right.  Deng is the prize that comes with taking a bad contract, and Thomas has value on his own.  Just a pipedream suggestion on my part.

Yeah agreed. It's just my opinion that of all the teams with players the Cs should covet for Allen, the Bulls are the one that should be seriously considering such a move due to the unique opportunity they'll have as a result.

The other team that should be considering a move is the Kings. They have 3 awful contracts they would be smart to look to move. But perhaps the Cs have said they wouldn't take the one (Nocioni or Garcia) they Kings want to move, and I can't blame them.
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Re: Idea: Deng, Salmons or Hinrich & Pargo for Ray Allen & Giddens
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2010, 12:31:33 PM »

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To say I'd be pleased with the possibility of getting Deng/Hinrich/Thomas would be an understatement. I'd cream myself if we could steal 2-3 of those guys.

Deng/Hinrich/Thomas for Ray/Scal/JR works in trade checker.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ygm56gn

That would be the heist of the century.  I'd throw in two firsts to get that done.

Chicago seems like the most logical trade partner at this point.

There appears to be a great deal of interest in Thomas, provided you don't need to take a contract to get him. So I would imagine the Bulls would split him up from Deng in any trade. They'll certainly get better value that way.
I think you're right.  Deng is the prize that comes with taking a bad contract, and Thomas has value on his own.  Just a pipedream suggestion on my part.

Yeah agreed. It's just my opinion that of all the teams with players the Cs should covet for Allen, the Bulls are the one that should be seriously considering such a move due to the unique opportunity they'll have as a result.

The other team that should be considering a move is the Kings. They have 3 awful contracts they would be smart to look to move. But perhaps the Cs have said they wouldn't take the one (Nocioni or Garcia) they Kings want to move, and I can't blame them.

Unless CHI is in a "cut off their nose to spite their face" mindset, they will be VERY motivated position over the next few days.

They may not want to end up doing a Pau Gasol deal, but honestly, as bad as that deal was at the time, didn't it actually work for MEM over the long haul.

They're not in a Title position as is, so they need to make an aggressive move...which may or may not pay off. But the move is to get in position to land two big FAs Wade (Joe J)/Bosh(Amare) type combos....

If they are thinking this way, then the Deng/Thomas or Deng/Hinrich combos are ones I would seriously look at.

Re: Idea: Deng, Salmons or Hinrich & Pargo for Ray Allen & Giddens
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2010, 12:59:41 PM »

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i would rather have deng than thomas. i would like to have deng and heinrich

Re: Idea: Deng, Salmons or Hinrich & Pargo for Ray Allen & Giddens
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2010, 01:13:00 PM »

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At the end of the day, I think Chicago works out a huge trade with Houston, pretty much for the same guys we'd be looking to get, but they can use McGrady's contract *and* throw in one of their good young players plus a better pick than we can offer. Plus, Houston being in the WC is probably preferable to Chicago too.  Too bad for us, but that's how I see it playing out.

Re: Idea: Deng, Salmons or Hinrich & Pargo for Ray Allen & Giddens
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2010, 01:34:26 PM »

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At the end of the day, I think Chicago works out a huge trade with Houston, pretty much for the same guys we'd be looking to get, but they can use McGrady's contract *and* throw in one of their good young players plus a better pick than we can offer. Plus, Houston being in the WC is probably preferable to Chicago too.  Too bad for us, but that's how I see it playing out.

I'd be a little more worried about Portland...although I don't know if they have the expiring contracts to offer. They do have some young talent to offer up there.

Re: Idea: Deng, Salmons or Hinrich & Pargo for Ray Allen & Giddens
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2010, 01:34:38 PM »

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houston's got one problem...they don't have much wiggle room. they seem pretty dead-set on trading mcgrady, given all that's transpired between them and him this year. we're not that desperate. i think teams will try to low-ball houston for that reason. in the end, if chicago wants to make a run at a big FA this summer, they badly need an big expiring contract. i'd do the deal for thomas (who i think can become very kg-like with a few years tutelage from kg), and either deng, or heinrich with a pick.

Re: Idea: Deng, Salmons or Hinrich & Pargo for Ray Allen & Giddens
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2010, 09:18:16 AM »

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At the end of the day, I think Chicago works out a huge trade with Houston, pretty much for the same guys we'd be looking to get, but they can use McGrady's contract *and* throw in one of their good young players plus a better pick than we can offer. Plus, Houston being in the WC is probably preferable to Chicago too.  Too bad for us, but that's how I see it playing out.

I'd be a little more worried about Portland...although I don't know if they have the expiring contracts to offer. They do have some young talent to offer up there.

Remember, it's about the cap space. Houston can offer it, but what they want is also cap space to make a run at Bosh -- and if they do not extend qualifying articles to Kyle Lowry or Luis Scola, they'd currently have max room this summer. For that reason I could see one of those guys being traded this week.

Portland cannot offer Chicago the appropriate cap space in this type of deal.
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