Is Your Pick Two Team Better than When it Started?

[wdleehi]

Yeah ... I'm likin' my team at this point, though it's more offensively leaning than defensive.

Chauncey Billups
Josh Howard
Carmelo Anthony
Al Harrington
Mehmet Okur

Not bad at all.

If Howard gets consistent he'll be the steal of this draft.

Looks like a Utah/Denver hybrid

Considering that he's regressed the last two years I'm not sure you can rely on that.

SF heavy


You could have difficulties against teams with strong SGs or PFs (or both.  Pigs say hi)

[slamtheking]

I think I've definitely improved the Jazz
Williams
Granger
Battier
Boozer
Hibbert

And Sheed as the backup 4/5.

I'd go to battle with that line-up against anyone.  Get a couple more decent bench players and we're really rocking.

I think you'd be better with Odom or Turk. Granger doesn't really fit with the rest of your team, especially at the 2.

I think Granger is a great fit alongside Deron Williams. You want an out-and-out scorer because Deron Williams will have the ball in his hands so much of the time. A guy like Hedo Turkoglu who's only high end talent is his passing ability is a poor fit for Williams. Takes the ball out of his hands too much and Turk becomes an expensive Jason Kapono like player (spot up shooter) when he doesn't have enough touches to take advantages of his passing ability.

I also like the Granger and Battier combination on the wings. Battier will be taking all the tough defensive assignments regardless of two guards or small forwards so positions aren't important here. I think Battier defends the two better than the three anyway. A non-issue for me.

So, I love the perimeter trio of Deron Williams, Danny Granger and Shane Battier. That will be one of the best perimeter groupings in the league.

I don't like Boozer and Hibbert combination though. Very slow + poor defensively. A repeat of Utah's current defensive problems on the interior. And then Rasheed as the sixth man, another slow footed defender albeit significantly superior than either Booz or Hibbert.

I think Hibbert needs to go for a big man with more defensive chops. Then you have a Championship contender on your hands. Without that defensive upgrade I'd view the team as an outside contender. Capable but not a frontrunner. Needs a fair bit of luck to go it's way. Sort of like Denver or Utah itself in real life.

I agree with each of you to an extent.  I had Odom and for the very reasons mentioned, I was very reluctant to move him for Granger.  Odom provided a lot of all-around skills that fit the rest of the players I had at the time.  Granger however gives me an affordable contract and also sets me in my backcourt for the next 6-7 years.  

If I hadn't gotten Hibbert, I would have gone with an established defensive center and there were plenty still available at the time.  I took Sheed to cover that need plus he could score and back up 2 positions but would have been more likely to focus on backups at the 1-4 positions rather than a center for the 3rd and 4th rounds.  There's still 2 players on the board I really like and could have grabbed one of them in the 4th round.  Now I can only cross my fingers and hope there's still some decent players around in the 5-7 rounds.

[PLamb]

I'm waiting for the Five Little Piggies nursery rhyme to be busted out and satirized

This little Piggie is a ball hog(Kobe)
And this little Piggie is real tall(Gortat)
This little Piggie is from Turkey(Hedo)
And this little Piggie, well there is none
And this little Piggie went flopping and crying wah, wah, wah all the way to the refs(Gasol)

[Fafnir]

I think I've definitely improved the Jazz
Williams
Granger
Battier
Boozer
Hibbert

And Sheed as the backup 4/5.

I'd go to battle with that line-up against anyone.  Get a couple more decent bench players and we're really rocking.

I think you'd be better with Odom or Turk. Granger doesn't really fit with the rest of your team, especially at the 2.

I think Granger is a great fit alongside Deron Williams. You want an out-and-out scorer because Deron Williams will have the ball in his hands so much of the time. A guy like Hedo Turkoglu who's only high end talent is his passing ability is a poor fit for Williams. Takes the ball out of his hands too much and Turk becomes an expensive Jason Kapono like player (spot up shooter) when he doesn't have enough touches to take advantages of his passing ability.

I also like the Granger and Battier combination on the wings. Battier will be taking all the tough defensive assignments regardless of two guards or small forwards so positions aren't important here. I think Battier defends the two better than the three anyway. A non-issue for me.

So, I love the perimeter trio of Deron Williams, Danny Granger and Shane Battier. That will be one of the best perimeter groupings in the league.

I don't like Boozer and Hibbert combination though. Very slow + poor defensively. A repeat of Utah's current defensive problems on the interior. And then Rasheed as the sixth man, another slow footed defender albeit significantly superior than either Booz or Hibbert.

I think Hibbert needs to go for a big man with more defensive chops. Then you have a Championship contender on your hands. Without that defensive upgrade I'd view the team as an outside contender. Capable but not a frontrunner. Needs a fair bit of luck to go it's way. Sort of like Denver or Utah itself in real life.

I agree with each of you to an extent.  I had Odom and for the very reasons mentioned, I was very reluctant to move him for Granger.  Odom provided a lot of all-around skills that fit the rest of the players I had at the time.  Granger however gives me an affordable contract and also sets me in my backcourt for the next 6-7 years.  

If I hadn't gotten Hibbert, I would have gone with an established defensive center and there were plenty still available at the time.  I took Sheed to cover that need plus he could score and back up 2 positions but would have been more likely to focus on backups at the 1-4 positions rather than a center for the 3rd and 4th rounds.  There's still 2 players on the board I really like and could have grabbed one of them in the 4th round.  Now I can only cross my fingers and hope there's still some decent players around in the 5-7 rounds.

Oh so Granger doesn't suck?

Interesting....

[The Walker Wiggle]

Oh so Granger doesn't suck?

Interesting....

But Lamar Odom can play the 2. When has Granger? Not once this season or last. He splits him time almost evenly between SF and PF. He's played center more often.

[PLamb]

I think I've definitely improved the Jazz
Williams
Granger
Battier
Boozer
Hibbert

And Sheed as the backup 4/5.

I'd go to battle with that line-up against anyone.  Get a couple more decent bench players and we're really rocking.

I think you'd be better with Odom or Turk. Granger doesn't really fit with the rest of your team, especially at the 2.

I think Granger is a great fit alongside Deron Williams. You want an out-and-out scorer because Deron Williams will have the ball in his hands so much of the time. A guy like Hedo Turkoglu who's only high end talent is his passing ability is a poor fit for Williams. Takes the ball out of his hands too much and Turk becomes an expensive Jason Kapono like player (spot up shooter) when he doesn't have enough touches to take advantages of his passing ability.

I also like the Granger and Battier combination on the wings. Battier will be taking all the tough defensive assignments regardless of two guards or small forwards so positions aren't important here. I think Battier defends the two better than the three anyway. A non-issue for me.

So, I love the perimeter trio of Deron Williams, Danny Granger and Shane Battier. That will be one of the best perimeter groupings in the league.

I don't like Boozer and Hibbert combination though. Very slow + poor defensively. A repeat of Utah's current defensive problems on the interior. And then Rasheed as the sixth man, another slow footed defender albeit significantly superior than either Booz or Hibbert.

I think Hibbert needs to go for a big man with more defensive chops. Then you have a Championship contender on your hands. Without that defensive upgrade I'd view the team as an outside contender. Capable but not a frontrunner. Needs a fair bit of luck to go it's way. Sort of like Denver or Utah itself in real life.

I agree with each of you to an extent.  I had Odom and for the very reasons mentioned, I was very reluctant to move him for Granger.  Odom provided a lot of all-around skills that fit the rest of the players I had at the time.  Granger however gives me an affordable contract and also sets me in my backcourt for the next 6-7 years.  

If I hadn't gotten Hibbert, I would have gone with an established defensive center and there were plenty still available at the time.  I took Sheed to cover that need plus he could score and back up 2 positions but would have been more likely to focus on backups at the 1-4 positions rather than a center for the 3rd and 4th rounds.  There's still 2 players on the board I really like and could have grabbed one of them in the 4th round.  Now I can only cross my fingers and hope there's still some decent players around in the 5-7 rounds.

Oh so Granger doesn't suck?

Interesting....

Yeah, it's pretty obvious slam knew he was fleecing Indiana but hey, it's for fun and if we are going to allow Golden State to draft Scal and Powe in 2 of their first three picks then who is anyone to complain about the integrity of a trade in a game where there's no competition

I'm not competing with anyone but myself in trying to make the Knicks as much improved over the current bunch as I possibly can

[Fafnir]

Oh so Granger doesn't suck?

Interesting....

But Lamar Odom can play the 2. When has Granger? Not once this season or last. He splits him time almost evenly between SF and PF. He's played center more often.

Versatile!

[Fafnir]

Yeah, it's pretty obvious slam knew he was fleecing Indiana but hey, it's for fun and if we are going to allow Golden State to draft Scal and Powe in 2 of their first three picks then who is anyone to complain about the integrity of a trade in a game where there's no competition

I'm not competing with anyone but myself in trying to make the Knicks as much improved over the current bunch as I possibly can

Well either Granger sucks or he doesn't.

Justify the trade by bashing the player if you want, just don't be surprised when you get mocked a bit when you try to pimp your team out as greatly improved.

[Kwhit10]

I think I've constructed a team that will be to LeBron's benefit.

Frye and Afflalo both shoot 3's at over 40%.  Frye drawing out big men to open up the lane. While Afflalo is also a great defender.

pg: Baron Davis
sg: Arron Afflalo
sf: LeBron James
pf: Anderson Varajao
C:  Channing Frye

[PLamb]

Yeah, it's pretty obvious slam knew he was fleecing Indiana but hey, it's for fun and if we are going to allow Golden State to draft Scal and Powe in 2 of their first three picks then who is anyone to complain about the integrity of a trade in a game where there's no competition

I'm not competing with anyone but myself in trying to make the Knicks as much improved over the current bunch as I possibly can

Well either Granger sucks or he doesn't.

Justify the trade by bashing the player if you want, just don't be surprised when you get mocked a bit when you try to pimp your team out as greatly improved.

Well, it's obvious Granger doesn't suck and yesterday obviously slam was.......exaggerating the truth..... so that he wouldn't look like a bad guy for taking advantage of Slugger

Let him have his fib

No biggie, we all know what happened

If he wants to proclaim Granger an All-NBA caliber player now let him, big deal, no one is judging his team better or worse than anyone else's

This is for fun

[Fafnir]

Yeah, it's pretty obvious slam knew he was fleecing Indiana but hey, it's for fun and if we are going to allow Golden State to draft Scal and Powe in 2 of their first three picks then who is anyone to complain about the integrity of a trade in a game where there's no competition

I'm not competing with anyone but myself in trying to make the Knicks as much improved over the current bunch as I possibly can

Well either Granger sucks or he doesn't.

Justify the trade by bashing the player if you want, just don't be surprised when you get mocked a bit when you try to pimp your team out as greatly improved.

Let him have his fib

This is for fun

But this is part of my fun! 

[Who]

Rondo, Richardson, Jefferson, KG, Przybilla.

Bench to come.

Excellent pickup with Przybilla. That starting five gives you a foundation to build a top 3 defensive team, top 5 rebounding team, and an above average offensive team.

A Championship contender.

[Evantime34]

No opinions on my team?

[Who]

I didn't know who was on your team.

Washington Bullets (Evantime34)-
Steve Nash, Manu Ginobili, Vince Carter, Andrei Kirilenko, Tyson Chandler

That's an excellent team -- well depending on how one views Tyson Chandler's injury problems ... if we assume Chandler can get back to his previous level of play, then it's a title contender. If we assume Chandler is what he is, or can only get somewhat better, then it's a very good team that is a notch below a contender.

Andrei Kirilenko at power forward is an excellent weapon. Himself and Tyson Chandler give the squad a very good backbone defensively and will be capable of altering a huge number of shots around the rim. Excellent in transition too. AK spaces the floor well for a power forward and has good quickness/skill (handle/passing/driving) advantages at the four. Ginobili and Nash will be one of the best, if not the best, backcourt in the league. That foursome could be the core to a Championship contender if Tyson gets back to his usual self.

Not wild about the Vince Carter choice. Two reasons (1) his lousy form this season is worrying (2) I think the team has enough players who like to have the ball in their hands creating plays with Nash, Ginobili and Kirilenko.

The team might be better off with a good defender + spot up shooter at the three. Create a bit more balance. Oh actually, you could just switch Ginobili or Vince to the sixth man role and start the defender/shooter in their place. That would work very well. That's a better option.

[fairweatherfan]

Ooh, do us next!

New Orleans

Chris Paul
Eric Gordon
Marvin Williams
Dejuan Blair
Yao

6th man: Boris Diaw