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Re: The Celtics Lost Because They Went Away From Rondo
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2010, 07:39:11 PM »

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i agree with mister, runnin the O through paul has been cringe worthy this year...its ironic how when the paul iso actually works--offensive foul. just that kinda season.  but how bout my boy rondo...dominating sh.t today.  thats a baaaaaad man.  too bad the C'Z apparently dont know how to use him.  I also think they coulda left tony in longer like the lakeshow left in bynum when they saw he was hot.  --I dunno bout ol doc these days

Re: Almost all issues would be solved if Rondo.....
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2010, 07:39:53 PM »

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The taking a three pointer instead of going for two when down by 1 would be fixed by a Rondo jumper?

Re: The Celtics Lost Because They Went Away From Rondo
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2010, 07:40:23 PM »

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i agree with mister, runnin the O through paul has been cringe worthy this year...its ironic how when the paul iso actually works--offensive foul. just that kinda season.  but how bout my boy rondo...dominating sh.t today.  thats a baaaaaad man.  too bad the C'Z apparently dont know how to use him.  I also think they coulda left tony in longer like the lakeshow left in bynum when they saw he was hot.  --I dunno bout ol doc these days
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Re: Why was Rondo on the bench at the end of the game?
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2010, 07:40:59 PM »

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I question the final play with 7secs.left to play...i feel they should have ran something going to the basket giving themselves a chance to make a bucket+possible foul shot.Taking a three wasn't necessary.It looked like a shot a young team would run that hasn't figured things out yet.I was disappointed in the play but feel good about the game overall.
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Re: The Celtics Lost Because They Went Away From Rondo
« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2010, 07:43:22 PM »

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1000 apologies naturally....and i meant running the O through paul in the fourth

Re: The Celtics Lost Because They Went Away From Rondo
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2010, 07:44:27 PM »

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Rondo had plenty of opportunities to make plays. He just didn't. And he wasn't passing the ball early on the possession either; he wasted too many possessions dribbling around aimlessly.

Doc Rivers very rarely calls play from the sideline, he isn't Rick Carlisle.

Re: The Celtics Lost Because They Went Away From Rondo
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2010, 07:47:16 PM »

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Rondo had plenty of opportunities to make plays. He just didn't. And he wasn't passing the ball early on the possession either; he wasted too many possessions dribbling around aimlessly.

Doc Rivers very rarely calls play from the sideline, he isn't Rick Carlisle.

I don't think you watched the game, buddy. Rondo didn't "dribble around aimlessly," he gave the ball to Pierce and ran to the corner! I don't know who makes the offensive calls, but that was a mistake.
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Re: Almost all issues would be solved if Rondo.....
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2010, 07:49:14 PM »

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I took no time to read this because, Rondo is the least of the Celtics problems.  He is playing the best basketball of his young career, and is giving the team a chance to win every night.
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Re: Why was Rondo on the bench at the end of the game?
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2010, 07:51:00 PM »

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Because he's a bad jump-shooter + bad free throw shooter. Off-the-ball he'd be more or less useless, if the ball was passed to him, the Lakers would a)foul immediately and send him to the line; b) sag off 6ft of him, wait at the rim and give a jump-shot (there wasn't enough time to have the off-the-ball action necessary to create a look).

Rondo isn't an ideal shot-creator late in the games, you need a different player. 

Re: Almost all issues would be solved if Rondo.....
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2010, 07:53:06 PM »

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The taking a three pointer instead of going for two when down by 1 would be fixed by a Rondo jumper?

No, I'm not talking about this game, specifically. I'm talking about the way he has played throughout his entire career thus far.

And the way he has played his whole career, is what led to his traveling turnover, at a very critical point late in the game, when his defender left to dbl. team, and he was WIDE open at the foul line, he hesitated and then shuffled his feet.....if he could knock down a jumpshot, he would not have traveled.

He is in his 4th year, and is still turning down wide open looks,it disturbs the natural flow of the offense.

All I'm saying is if Rondo could knock down a 15 ft. jumpshot consistently, defenses would have to play us TOTALLY different.

Re: Almost all issues would be solved if Rondo.....
« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2010, 07:54:16 PM »

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I don't think our rebounding issues would suddenly go away if Rondo could hit jumpshots...(which he can, just not consistently...yet).

I dont think it would either, which is why I said ALMOST all, and not, "all of our problems"

Re: Almost all issues would be solved if Rondo.....
« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2010, 07:55:14 PM »

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Rondo was 2-for-5 from 15 feet and longer today.  Certainly, that's not great, but it's probably in line with most players.  (Lebron, for instance, has a .444 eFG% on jumpers.)  Today, the lack of a jumper wasn't the issue.

Going forward, I agree it's a weakness.  However, it certainly wouldn't solve almost all of our teams problems.

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Re: Why was Rondo on the bench at the end of the game?
« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2010, 07:55:50 PM »

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Because he's a bad jump-shooter + bad free throw shooter. Off-the-ball he'd be more or less useless, if the ball was passed to him, the Lakers would a)foul immediately and send him to the line; b) sag off 6ft of him, wait at the rim and give a jump-shot (there wasn't enough time to have the off-the-ball action necessary to create a look).

Rondo isn't an ideal shot-creator late in the games, you need a different player. 

The Lakers were sagging off of him all game, and he still dominated. Plus, he's not THAT bad of a free throw shooter that they would intentionally foul him with a one point lead. That would be incredibly stupid. With the game that Rondo was having, they should have put the ball in his hands at the end of the game. Thats the beginning and the end of it.
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Re: Almost all issues would be solved if Rondo.....
« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2010, 07:58:02 PM »

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I took no time to read this because, Rondo is the least of the Celtics problems.  He is playing the best basketball of his young career, and is giving the team a chance to win every night.

But you cant ignore the fact, that if he had a consistent 15 footer, things would be totally different.

Am I blaming Rondo for how the C's have been playing? No

What I am saying, is after 4 years, Rondo's jumper is still a no-show a majority of the time. He still passes up wide open shots, and a lot of problems we are having now, offensively, could be resolved simply by Rondo having a more consistent jumper.

Re: Almost all issues would be solved if Rondo.....
« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2010, 07:59:29 PM »

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Im not opposed to Rondo taking shots but i rather see KG become more offensive minded.He seems to defer to much at times.