lakers maybe getting heinrich?

[Donoghus]

Hinrich has had a very bad offensive year, if the plan is to trade him and not resign Ray Allen that's a horrible move for the Celtics.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tiny.cgi?id=3bAFz

Offensively he doesn't bring nearly what Ray Allen does.

I agree.

As a sixth man, with a reasonable contract, he'd be a great fit.  At replacing Ray Allen in the starting rotation?  Not so much.

[Fafnir]

Hinrich has had a very bad offensive year, if the plan is to trade him and not resign Ray Allen that's a horrible move for the Celtics.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tiny.cgi?id=3bAFz

Offensively he doesn't bring nearly what Ray Allen does.

I agree.

As a sixth man, with a reasonable contract, he'd be a great fit.  At replacing Ray Allen in the starting rotation?  Not so much.

To be fair, if you were going to let Ray Allen go a player of Hinrich's skill set and defensive caliber would be a what I'd want.

But you'd need to spend money to get another player to improve the team overall, and Hinrich is overpaid so much that probably isn't possible.

I still wish the C's would bite the bullet and trade for him, all in this year.

[PLamb]

Hinrich has had a very bad offensive year, if the plan is to trade him and not resign Ray Allen that's a horrible move for the Celtics.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tiny.cgi?id=3bAFz

Offensively he doesn't bring nearly what Ray Allen does.

I agree.

As a sixth man, with a reasonable contract, he'd be a great fit.  At replacing Ray Allen in the starting rotation?  Not so much.

I don't think either of you gentlemen are giving Hinrich his just due based on this bad year, a year where he has had multiple injuries and played through them

During years where he has started he has averaged 15 PPG, 6 APG, 3.5 RPG, 1.3 SPG and shot 38% from three and 80% from the free throw line

I think it is just as probable if not more so to think that put onto this starting five that Hinrich could duplicate those numbers at age 30 and 31 as it is to think Ray Allen could put up those numbers at age 35 and 36

Considering what numbers I have seen bandied around for a two year extension for Ray, I would say Hinrich might be the better bargain and value as a starter over the next two years

But again this has more to due with my contention that I believe the probability of Ray's game deteriorating rapidly over the next two years is a virtual given based on the history of shooting guards at the age of 35 and above

[Fafnir]

Hinrich has had a very bad offensive year, if the plan is to trade him and not resign Ray Allen that's a horrible move for the Celtics.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tiny.cgi?id=3bAFz

Offensively he doesn't bring nearly what Ray Allen does.

I agree.

As a sixth man, with a reasonable contract, he'd be a great fit.  At replacing Ray Allen in the starting rotation?  Not so much.

I don't think either of you gentlemen are giving Hinrich his just due based on this bad year, a year where he has had multiple injuries and played through them

During years where he has started he has averaged 15 PPG, 6 APG, 3.5 RPG, 1.3 SPG and shot 38% from three and 80% from the free throw line

I think it is just as probable if not more so to think that put onto this starting five that Hinrich could duplicate those numbers at age 30 and 31 as it is to think Ray Allen could put up those numbers at age 35 and 36

Considering what numbers I have seen bandied around for a two year extension for Ray, I would say Hinrich might be the better bargain and value as a starter over the next two years

But again this has more to due with my contention that I believe the probability of Ray's game deteriorating rapidly over the next two years is a virtual given based on the history of shooting guards at the age of 35 and above

At his best Hinrich is an average offensive PG and a very good defensive PG. As a SG he loses a lot of that defensive ability. He's been on a two year skid, not just one that worries me.

[Who]

Is this old news?I saw this on real gm and espn.com wow that would be a ridiculous defensive team.perfect fit for them. yuck.

Hinrich has been linked to the Lakers a couple of times over the past year or so. Not seriously though, at least I haven't seen anything concrete on the Lakers interest + willingness to make that type of trade.

[ssspence]

Is this old news?I saw this on real gm and espn.com wow that would be a ridiculous defensive team.perfect fit for them. yuck.

Hinrich has been linked to the Lakers a couple of times over the past year or so. Not seriously though, at least I haven't seen anything concrete on the Lakers interest + willingness to make that type of trade.

I don't see Buss doing it. They already have a team capable of winning it all -- he's not going to add all the lux tax for a player that's any less than a dunk from a talent perspective. kirk -- on his contract -- is not that player.

[Drucci]

Is this old news?I saw this on real gm and espn.com wow that would be a ridiculous defensive team.perfect fit for them. yuck.

Hinrich has been linked to the Lakers a couple of times over the past year or so. Not seriously though, at least I haven't seen anything concrete on the Lakers interest + willingness to make that type of trade.

I don't see Buss doing it. They already have a team capable of winning it all -- he's not going to add all the lux tax for a player that's any less than a dunk from a talent perspective. kirk -- on his contract -- is not that player.

The Lakers current biggest weakness is their inability to defend on opposing point guards due Fisher's age. They also need a shooter who can spread the floor.

Clearly, Hinrich would be a perfect fit... that's why I don't want to see him traded to the Lakers. Plus, his terrible contract put aside, he would be perfect for our team. Call the Bulls, Danny!

[Chris]

Hinrich has had a very bad offensive year, if the plan is to trade him and not resign Ray Allen that's a horrible move for the Celtics.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tiny.cgi?id=3bAFz

Offensively he doesn't bring nearly what Ray Allen does.

I agree.

As a sixth man, with a reasonable contract, he'd be a great fit.  At replacing Ray Allen in the starting rotation?  Not so much.

I don't think either of you gentlemen are giving Hinrich his just due based on this bad year, a year where he has had multiple injuries and played through them

During years where he has started he has averaged 15 PPG, 6 APG, 3.5 RPG, 1.3 SPG and shot 38% from three and 80% from the free throw line

I think it is just as probable if not more so to think that put onto this starting five that Hinrich could duplicate those numbers at age 30 and 31 as it is to think Ray Allen could put up those numbers at age 35 and 36

Considering what numbers I have seen bandied around for a two year extension for Ray, I would say Hinrich might be the better bargain and value as a starter over the next two years

But again this has more to due with my contention that I believe the probability of Ray's game deteriorating rapidly over the next two years is a virtual given based on the history of shooting guards at the age of 35 and above

I agree that Hinrich is getting undersold a bit, however, he is not a shooting guard, and that is part of the problem. 

Hinrich is a PG.  Yes, he can guard SG's, and can play decently off the ball, but if you want to get your money's worth on him, you need to be playing him at PG. 

Other than injuries, his biggest problem this season has been that they have been trying to use him as a Ben Gordon replacement, and that just is not what he does.  He is a roleplayer, who is a good floorleader, and can knock down the open shot, but if you expect him to be a primary scorer (which he would need to be if he were taking over Ray's spot next year) you are going to be incredibly disapointed.

[Who]

Is this old news?I saw this on real gm and espn.com wow that would be a ridiculous defensive team.perfect fit for them. yuck.

Hinrich has been linked to the Lakers a couple of times over the past year or so. Not seriously though, at least I haven't seen anything concrete on the Lakers interest + willingness to make that type of trade.

I don't see Buss doing it. They already have a team capable of winning it all -- he's not going to add all the lux tax for a player that's any less than a dunk from a talent perspective. kirk -- on his contract -- is not that player.

I don't think the Lakers are going to do it either. I doubt they're even considering it. It looks like paper talk to me.

If the Lakers were to make a move, I'd expect them to add a bench player and not a starting PG. Even that I doubt. As for Fisher and the starting PG job, I don't think they'll look for a replacement for Fish until the summer.

[Who]

Portland should pursue Kirk Hinrich. He'd be an excellent fit there.

[Fafnir]

Portland should pursue Kirk Hinrich. He'd be an excellent fit there.

If they do that they'll also have to move Andre Miller, that complicates issues because they'd need to pull off two separate trades.

They tried very hard to get Hinrich this summer anyways, at one point Hinrich was telling people he expected to be traded to Portland within a week.

[acieEarl]

I'd take Blake over Hinrich. Better shooter.

Portland should pursue Kirk Hinrich. He'd be an excellent fit there.