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Re: Rasheed looking like bad pickup. Celtics bench needs an upgrade
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2010, 11:12:56 AM »

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Rasheed was and is a very bad pick up for this team.
Why Doc hasn't put the cap on Rasheed taking all those 3 point shots baffles me !
It easy to see he is much more effective closer to the basket but he wants to shoot 25ft shots, reminding me of ( Antoine Walker )
Even if he were to hit a couple of those shots its still inappropriate in too many cases
He's making the team look really bad with those long shots,
I get the feeling he's doing what he wants to do !! In spite of the team concept.



You are so wrong.  Rasheed is a great pickup.  I don't think we'd have the best record in the east without him. 

I love Rasheed on this team. Sure, sometimes he takes too many 3's, but everything else he brings on the court is a plus.  Besides, he is working a lot more in the post lately.

Please clue me in on who you think would have been a better pickup.
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Re: Rasheed looking like bad pickup. Celtics bench needs an upgrade
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2010, 11:16:39 AM »

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His lack of rebounding is way more concerning than the shot-selection, IMO.

Re: Rasheed looking like bad pickup. Celtics bench needs an upgrade
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2010, 11:38:20 AM »

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I think everyone pretty much covered what I was going to say.  Wallace is a great defender, good teammate (when he's not getting Ts), and really changes what opposing defenses try to do with his range. 

I hate to say things like this, but it's really ridiculous to think that he's a bad pickup. 

Re: Rasheed looking like bad pickup. Celtics bench needs an upgrade
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2010, 12:34:53 PM »

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He is a decent specialist that doesn't need to warm up on the court to get you a three or other forms of points. But i really can't wait until kg comesback so he doesn't have to start.

Like most of you stated he has the worst attitude in the league and psychologically i think it has to do with him. Its like he knows he messes up but doesnt' want to take responsibility for it. Even shuttting up if he gets kicked out of the game for the sake of the team is too hard for him to do.

He doesn't like to play team concept like one of you stated too and wants to do anything he wants on the court like jack up threes ala antoine walker. He is a selfish guy

Doc is probably scared out of his mind to say anything to him or give him a dnp since he doesn't do that to the vets (have you ever seen him be hard on kg,allen, pp?) which is dumb.

Thats y i don't respect doc once again vs popovich who will eat any of his players alive if they don't concentrate on the court.

Anyone have thoughts about trying to get Ryan Anderson? guys like him or omri casspi, ryan gomes, nocioni would be incredible additions to our team. We should have never let posey go. You give wallace 5 mill a year and not posey?

Re: Rasheed looking like bad pickup. Celtics bench needs an upgrade
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2010, 12:43:05 PM »

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Yeah, cause Posey's done well since he left Boston.  ::)

And I don't think the Magic are trading away Ryan Anderson.

I'm afraid I can only see this as a reactionary post.

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« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2010, 12:50:27 PM »

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Doc is probably scared out of his mind to say anything to him or give him a dnp since he doesn't do that to the vets (have you ever seen him be hard on kg,allen, pp?) which is dumb.

Thats y i don't respect doc once again vs popovich who will eat any of his players alive if they don't concentrate on the court.


 I was at a game in Doc's 1st or 2nd year when he yanked Pierce in the middle of the 4th quarter in a close game because he didn't like the way Pierce was playing (and he wasn't having a 2-16 night or anything). Doc said after the game that he took Pierce out for not doing things within the offense Doc wanted him to. Paul disputed Doc's assessment but the issue went away over the next couple of weeks.

Re: Rasheed looking like bad pickup. Celtics bench needs an upgrade
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2010, 12:52:31 PM »

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Yeah, cause Posey's done well since he left Boston.  ::)

And I don't think the Magic are trading away Ryan Anderson.

I'm afraid I can only see this as a reactionary post.

Posey's gonna do well wherever he goes ... he's just one of those players who adapts well. I was disappointed to lose him ... as well as Leon, who I call "Mr. 110%".
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Re: Rasheed looking like bad pickup. Celtics bench needs an upgrade
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2010, 01:44:02 PM »

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His lack of rebounding is way more concerning than the shot-selection, IMO.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wallara01.html

His rebounding rate is down a little, but that's to be expected with such an old player. I think Rasheed has been who he thought we were getting.

We really need KG to come back soon though.

Re: Rasheed looking like bad pickup. Celtics bench needs an upgrade
« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2010, 01:55:19 PM »

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The celtics signed the best possible pickup they could have this summer (period).

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Re: Rasheed looking like bad pickup. Celtics bench needs an upgrade
« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2010, 01:58:13 PM »

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When your sixth man is starting, your 7th man is injured, your replacement 7th man is injured, and your 8th/9th men just came back from injuries...

i really don't know what you want.

Re: Rasheed looking like bad pickup. Celtics bench needs an upgrade
« Reply #25 on: January 09, 2010, 02:19:08 PM »

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His lack of rebounding is way more concerning than the shot-selection, IMO.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wallara01.html

His rebounding rate is down a little, but that's to be expected with such an old player. I think Rasheed has been who he thought we were getting.

We really need KG to come back soon though.

I didn't mean I was expecting him to rebound better. It's more concerning to me because the Celtics are a much worse rebounding team that I thought they'd be - making Wallace's mediocre rebounding more difficult to be minimized.

ps - huh, only now I checked his numbers and his rebounding is down more than a little. He's basically rebounding at a Bargnani's level. Very bad.
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Re: Rasheed looking like bad pickup. Celtics bench needs an upgrade
« Reply #26 on: January 09, 2010, 03:03:11 PM »

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His lack of rebounding is way more concerning than the shot-selection, IMO.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wallara01.html

His rebounding rate is down a little, but that's to be expected with such an old player. I think Rasheed has been who he thought we were getting.

We really need KG to come back soon though.

I didn't mean I was expecting him to rebound better. It's more concerning to me because the Celtics are a much worse rebounding team that I thought they'd be - making Wallace's mediocre rebounding more difficult to be minimized.

ps - huh, only now I checked his numbers and his rebounding is down more than a little. He's basically rebounding at a Bargnani's level. Very bad.
I agree  and you would think with him knowing he is basically replacing KG,he would be conscious of rebounding more.   

Re: Rasheed looking like bad pickup. Celtics bench needs an upgrade
« Reply #27 on: January 09, 2010, 03:11:46 PM »

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Yeah, cause Posey's done well since he left Boston.  ::)

And I don't think the Magic are trading away Ryan Anderson.

I'm afraid I can only see this as a reactionary post.

Posey's gonna do well wherever he goes ... he's just one of those players who adapts well. I was disappointed to lose him ... as well as Leon, who I call "Mr. 110%".

well, i love posey too, but i don't see how one can look at his body of work in NO and lable it as anything else than sub-par and he looks awful on the court right now.

He was never a fast player, and he's lost a step. he's getting abused on defense by athletic small forwards right now. It pains me to say it, but not signing posey is looking like a good move on danny's part. I'd hate the shell of james posey that's down in NO on this team.

Back to sheed, I think he's been a great pickup. Yes, he can shoot the three far to much for my liking, but he has also made an effort to get down on the low post these last few weeks, not counting last night. Last night he was far to preimiter oreinted.

His defense has been good, his rebounding solid, and he looks great against other teams bench's. That's his job now. This thread spawns from last nights bad game and not being objective about the player.

Sheed the bench player = great signing.

Sheed the 40 minute starter = out of his role.

IF we are forced to start sheed for the rest of the year, we aren't winning a title anyway, so i'm not to worried about it. It was no surprise to me that josh smith and al horford were better than a 35 year old wallace.

The hawks are a good team, and they defended thier home turf against a injury riddled Celtics team. Not surprising in the least, and certainly not wallace's fault.
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Re: Rasheed looking like bad pickup. Celtics bench needs an upgrade
« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2010, 03:40:49 PM »

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how about we wait and see how things pan out once the entire team is healthy....ya know, since that has yet to happen this season

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« Reply #29 on: January 09, 2010, 03:44:21 PM »

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how about we wait and see how things pan out once the entire team is healthy....ya know, since that has yet to happen this season

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