Why would you say that? We play to win the game. JR started for exceptional D, and to try to neutralize Hedo. Right now Walker role is being Roster#15. Its sucks for Billy, but patience is a virtue.

Walker will not be on this team past this year and my guess here is he probably won't even make it until the end of the year. He will be traded or released outright to make way to sign someone else.

Giddens started and Walker didn't play in a game where 4 of the top 7 Celtics in the rotation were out hurt. That is not a statement on how bad a decison Doc made or how bad a coach Doc is, especially since his coaching was praised by Tony Allen after the game on radio and also because the Celtics won, but it is a statement of just how bad a player Bill Walker probably is at this point.

Why would you say that?

I say it just because if I'm the coach or general manager I'd like to see what I have in Bill Walker. And besides that I thought that early in the second quarter that this team needed a spark off the bench and Bill Walker could contribute.

I'm not bashing Doc for the decision, I'm sure there's a healthy stream of logic to him not playing. But I find it odd that at the end of last season it seemed like Walker was very much "a head" of Giddens and that before this season started a lot of people speculated that Walker would have a role on this team playing between 4 and 10 minutes a night.

Yet in a game where we're down 4 players, where there was a point where I thought that they could've used his offense, Walker still couldn't get any burn.

Quote from: Change on January 02, 2010, 11:20:06 PM

Why would you say that?

I say it just because if I'm the coach or general manager I'd like to see what I have in Bill Walker. And besides that I thought that early in the second quarter that this team needed a spark off the bench and Bill Walker could contribute.

I'm not bashing Doc for the decision, I'm sure there's a healthy stream of logic to him not playing. But I find it odd that at the end of last season it seemed like Walker was very much "a head" of Giddens and that before this season started a lot of people speculated that Walker would have a role on this team playing between 4 and 10 minutes a night.

Yet in a game where we're down 4 players, where there was a point where I thought that they could've used his offense, Walker still couldn't get any burn.

Except, the Celtics coaching staff and front office don't get to see and judge Walker's game based on game play action. They see him all the time in practice, pre-season, Summer League, D-League film, etc. They don't NEED to see him in game action to know he isn't ready to play NBA level basketball. Only fans do.

Doc had a ten player rotation tonight. That's enough and it must have been the right decision because they won the game.

We as fans have to learn that players ARE NOT GIVEN playing time to prove they should stay on the court but that players HAVE TO EARN playing time by performing in practice to prove they belong on the court. This is an extremely simple concept used by coaches in all sports from the youngest organized sports levels all the way up to the pros.

Quote from: wdleehi on January 02, 2010, 11:34:21 PM

Whatever JR has shown Doc in practice, Walker has not shown the same level.

How do you know? I guess Tom Brady didn't bring it in practice back when Drew was getting the starts. (I'm not comparing Walker to Brady, just making a point). Coaches can be wrong.

Because Doc picked JR to play, not Walker. 

JR must have shown more in practice. 


And there is something QB like Bledsoe could do, look really good in practice.  He knew how to run and offense and could make any throw. 

Quote from: wdleehi on January 02, 2010, 11:34:21 PM

Whatever JR has shown Doc in practice, Walker has not shown the same level.

How do you know? I guess Tom Brady didn't bring it in practice back when Drew was getting the starts. (I'm not comparing Walker to Brady, just making a point). Coaches can be wrong.

But the reason Brady was on the 2001 Patriots and the reason he was the #2 starter was because in practice and the film room and the weight room he had surpassed Michael Bishop on the depth chart at the end of the 2000 year and made Bishop expendable for the 2001 year.

Brady made 3 whole passes in a regualr season game before earning the right to be called the team's backup QB and then played so well he never gave up the spot. But his talent was first seen and displayed to the coaching staff in every area but the field before making his full time debut. That he did what he did is a testament to what he learned and performed in practice and other areas first.

Quote from: KungPoweChicken on January 03, 2010, 01:27:27 AM

Quote from: wdleehi on January 02, 2010, 11:34:21 PM

Whatever JR has shown Doc in practice, Walker has not shown the same level.

How do you know? I guess Tom Brady didn't bring it in practice back when Drew was getting the starts. (I'm not comparing Walker to Brady, just making a point). Coaches can be wrong.

Because Doc picked JR to play, not Walker. 

JR must have shown more in practice. 


And there is something QB like Bledsoe could do, look really good in practice.  He knew how to run and offense and could make any throw. 

Who cares what Bledsoe could do? Tom is and always was a far superior QB, but he didn't see the field. I guess he didn't "bring enough" in practice.