Greg Oden , 1st round pick for Perk /Davis,Allen for Oden

[James Haley]

I thought this was a fare trade you guys don't ok i will go with Glen Davis and Tony Allen for Greg Oden he is not healthly i know but think of having this guy as a back up center to perk with limited minutes till he can play for a full season. This would work for Portland Davis is a small Center but showed in the playoffs he can play and score with the best of them, and the bonus for us is *Greg Oden as a back up for Perk*............ how about this one guys would this work.

[Drucci]

How is your trade proposal a smart move?

[Prof. Clutch]

Don't want to trade Perk (a proven player at this point who is still on the rise) for someone who is repeatedly injured and proven nothing.  It's not worth risking the future of this team which can remain bright with Rondo and Perk to build around.

No way.

[Donoghus]

I'll repost here what I posted in the Pryzbilla thread when you initially proposed the question.

Trade Perk for Oden?  That kills the Celtics right now.  Perk is playing some exceptional basketball while Oden isn't playing any.  Relying on Wallace to play the 5 for extended minutes (which would be the case in this scenario) is an extremely bad idea. 

The Celtics are not in the mode to trade a known commodity (and starter to boot) for an injury prone talent who is useless for the '09-10 season.

[Prof. Clutch]

The only center I would want to trade for on Portland is Pryzbilla and now he's seriously injured.  Oh and I would never give up Perk to get him.

[Who]

I would be willing to conceded the title in order to get Greg Oden on the Celtics.

I don't think Portland would have any interest in this trade though. If they did decide to move Oden they could get someone better than Perk.

[Tai]

I'm afraid April Fool's is 4 and a half months away.

Come back then with this trade and maybe it'll get a better reception.

[dark_lord]

   

[Prof. Clutch]

To the OP, I know everyone (including myself) is going to shoot down this idea very quickly and I hope that isn't a deterrent for you to continue coming up with ideas and sharing them.  I understand the spirit of what your suggesting, its just a very unrealistic and unwise strategy for the reasons already stated.  We can't trade Perk (he is the definition of our future) and especially for someone who has proven only that he is capable of getting injured.  I understand your desire to get a dominant young big man to preserve our future and keep us competitive.  But I think we already have that guy on our team in Perk.  I, like everyone else here, have our fingers crossed for the best possible transition out of the big 3 years, but that is still a little ways off.

Anyway, the principle of your idea is good, the idea itself is not.  I'm gonna give you a TP anyway.

[cavman]

Apparently it is Christmas, since you got a TP for that trade idea.

Why don't we trade for all the big guys who can't stay on the court?  Bynum might be available.

If Oden had been healthy, and productive before this I might consider it.  But he's been hurt most of the time, and fairly unproductive when healthy.  Right now Perk is a MUCH better center than Greg Oden.  I would not trade him.  No way.

[Prof. Clutch]

Apparently it is Christmas, since you got a TP for that trade idea.

Why don't we trade for all the big guys who can't stay on the court?  Bynum might be available.

If Oden had been healthy, and productive before this I might consider it.  But he's been hurt most of the time, and fairly unproductive when healthy.  Right now Perk is a MUCH better center than Greg Oden.  I would not trade him.  No way.

Hey, just trying to show the man some love in a thread that's sure to be filled with hate.  You know how riled everybody around here gets when it comes to a bad trade idea, and nobody likes to be on the receiving end of everyone telling them one of their ideas is stupid.  Ya feel me?

[Prof. Clutch]

BTW OP, you spelled Oden's name wrong on the title of this thread.  If you click the "Modify" button on your original post you can edit the title (if you so desire.)

[James Haley]

Professor Clutch,

I dont need a Tommy Point to make myself feel better about my stupid trade idea you like everyone else is getting caught up in the playoff hype this will come to an end shortly next few years. Perk and Rondo those are our best trade options Rondo wins games. Having Perk doesn't get us a win he is not a franchise player. We need to rebuild year by year while making the playoffs and getting high 1st round draft picks. How do we do that by making moves trading to a desperate team that would give us what we wan't kind of like us a few years ago remember.

[RJ87]

I'm afraid April Fool's is 4 and a half months away.

Come back then with this trade and maybe it'll get a better reception.

This made me LOL. TP.
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All Greg Oden has done in the NBA is get injured. He didn't even play his rookie season, and can't seem to make it through half a season let alone a full one.

I will concede that he was good in college, but he hasn't come close to proving himself on a higher level. At this point, Perk is the more solid option moving forward, even with this shoulder issues - Oden might be able to live up to his hype one day, but he needs to stay healthy first. I'm starting to have serious doubts he can do that at this level.

[Prof. Clutch]

Professor Clutch,

I dont need a Tommy Point to make myself feel better about my stupid trade idea you like everyone else is getting caught up in the playoff hype this will come to an end shortly next few years. Perk and Rondo those are our best trade options Rondo wins games. Having Perk doesn't get us a win he is not a franchise player. We need to rebuild year by year while making the playoffs and getting high 1st round draft picks. How do we do that by making moves trading to a desperate team that would give us what we wan't kind of like us a few years ago remember.

Hey man, I didn't mean any offense.  And I never called your trade idea stupid, I said it was a bad idea in my opinion.  I did say that everyone was treating your idea like it was stupid.  I also said that I understood the principle of what your trade was about, acquiring young talent to stay competitive long term.  I just don't agree with how you want to do it.

I also don't agree with you about your perception of our future.  I mean, if the idea is to be good in the future it makes no sense to trade away the only two young pieces we have that will give us a chance to sustain our future.  Perk and Rondo are our chance to stay competitive.  With those pieces in place its logical that other great players might want to hop on board.  Especially if guys like Ray are slowly phased out and replaced with a young dynamic SG looking for a ring while KG and Pierce are still here.  It's really really hard to go to the playoffs every year and still get high 1st round draft picks.  And a first round draft pick from Portland would only net us around the 21st pick in the draft which isn't much more valuable than our own pick would be at 27-29.  That's all i'm saying.

I give TP's how I see fit.  It wasn't an attempt to make you feel better.  You took a risk proposing a trade of our starting, young, talented center.  I gave you a TP because I knew that you would get a lot of flack for it even though your motive was positive.  That's all.  No ill will was intended.  Have a good night brotha.