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Re: Kooky Trade Idea: Boozer and Kirilenko to the Cs
« Reply #60 on: November 19, 2009, 06:05:12 PM »

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Boozer would be underutilized here. We already have a starting PF, don't need another.

Boozer would be underutilized anywhere.  He has been ever since he signed his contract.  He plays when he feels like playing....Which isn't often.

Boozer has Mark Blount Syndrome.

Yeah well he can get you 25 and 10 in the post. We have the following number of players who offer that ability: 0.

Respectfully, sspense, when exactly will Boozer do that?  He's never on the court.  The other question:  If he's on the court long enough to do that, how many points does the guy this 6-7 power forward is guarding score?

Here's his game log this year:

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/carlos_boozer/game_by_game_stats.html

Now go back to previous years and find some more of those 23 and 18 nights.

He's one of premiere post players in the game, and he's probably the most versitile from low post to high post. Yes, he's had injuries, and yes he's not a model NBA citizen. But his skill is indesputable.

Do your homework, brotha.

I love how you didn't address his questions at all.  He called out his injury concerns and his lack of defense.  You responded by saying that he's good on offense.

I answered his "respectful" question with facts and skipped the sarcasm. Do you have a respectful question or just sarcasm?

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Re: Kooky Trade Idea: Boozer and Kirilenko to the Cs
« Reply #61 on: November 19, 2009, 06:09:34 PM »

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I don't know about Boozer, but I love AK47. I know his contract is pretty bad though.
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Re: Kooky Trade Idea: Boozer and Kirilenko to the Cs
« Reply #62 on: November 19, 2009, 06:11:22 PM »

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I don't know about Boozer, but I love AK47. I know his contract is pretty bad though.

Yep. But I'm not trading Ray for less than the two of them (assuming others who'd actually play on the Cs aren't available -- Williams & Millsap basically).
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Re: Kooky Trade Idea: Boozer and Kirilenko to the Cs
« Reply #63 on: November 19, 2009, 06:17:40 PM »

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Boozer would be underutilized here. We already have a starting PF, don't need another.

Boozer would be underutilized anywhere.  He has been ever since he signed his contract.  He plays when he feels like playing....Which isn't often.

Boozer has Mark Blount Syndrome.

Yeah well he can get you 25 and 10 in the post. We have the following number of players who offer that ability: 0.

Respectfully, sspense, when exactly will Boozer do that?  He's never on the court.  The other question:  If he's on the court long enough to do that, how many points does the guy this 6-7 power forward is guarding score?

Here's his game log this year:

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/carlos_boozer/game_by_game_stats.html

Now go back to previous years and find some more of those 23 and 18 nights.

He's one of premiere post players in the game, and he's probably the most versitile from low post to high post. Yes, he's had injuries, and yes he's not a model NBA citizen. But his skill is indesputable.

Do your homework, brotha.
Boozer would be underutilized here. We already have a starting PF, don't need another.

Boozer would be underutilized anywhere.  He has been ever since he signed his contract.  He plays when he feels like playing....Which isn't often.

Boozer has Mark Blount Syndrome.

Yeah well he can get you 25 and 10 in the post. We have the following number of players who offer that ability: 0.

Respectfully, sspense, when exactly will Boozer do that?  He's never on the court.  The other question:  If he's on the court long enough to do that, how many points does the guy this 6-7 power forward is guarding score?

Here's his game log this year:

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/carlos_boozer/game_by_game_stats.html

Now go back to previous years and find some more of those 23 and 18 nights.

He's one of premiere post players in the game, and he's probably the most versitile from low post to high post. Yes, he's had injuries, and yes he's not a model NBA citizen. But his skill is indesputable.

Do your homework, brotha.

I did.

Boozer has missed close to 100 games since he signed his new contract.  There has been numerous questions about whether he was milking his injuries.  Further, having watched him defend, he would have fit in perfectly pre-Thibodeau when our defense was a caracature of itself.   But he wouldn't fit into this roster at all.

Yes, he's had injuries, and yes he's not a model NBA citizen.

....Rivers has such a sterling history of handling the "not a model NBA citizens".  Using that bizarre logic...why not Zach Randolph?  Comperable stats.  Same defensive prowess.  At least he shows up most of the time.

No thanks on either one.   Kirilenko?  Hell yeah.
« Last Edit: November 19, 2009, 06:26:54 PM by Finkelskyhook »

Re: Kooky Trade Idea: Boozer and Kirilenko to the Cs
« Reply #64 on: November 19, 2009, 06:28:19 PM »

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Boozer would be underutilized here. We already have a starting PF, don't need another.

Boozer would be underutilized anywhere.  He has been ever since he signed his contract.  He plays when he feels like playing....Which isn't often.

Boozer has Mark Blount Syndrome.

Yeah well he can get you 25 and 10 in the post. We have the following number of players who offer that ability: 0.

Respectfully, sspense, when exactly will Boozer do that?  He's never on the court.  The other question:  If he's on the court long enough to do that, how many points does the guy this 6-7 power forward is guarding score?

Here's his game log this year:

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/carlos_boozer/game_by_game_stats.html

Now go back to previous years and find some more of those 23 and 18 nights.

He's one of premiere post players in the game, and he's probably the most versitile from low post to high post. Yes, he's had injuries, and yes he's not a model NBA citizen. But his skill is indesputable.

Do your homework, brotha.
Boozer would be underutilized here. We already have a starting PF, don't need another.

Boozer would be underutilized anywhere.  He has been ever since he signed his contract.  He plays when he feels like playing....Which isn't often.

Boozer has Mark Blount Syndrome.

Yeah well he can get you 25 and 10 in the post. We have the following number of players who offer that ability: 0.

Respectfully, sspense, when exactly will Boozer do that?  He's never on the court.  The other question:  If he's on the court long enough to do that, how many points does the guy this 6-7 power forward is guarding score?

Here's his game log this year:

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/carlos_boozer/game_by_game_stats.html

Now go back to previous years and find some more of those 23 and 18 nights.

He's one of premiere post players in the game, and he's probably the most versitile from low post to high post. Yes, he's had injuries, and yes he's not a model NBA citizen. But his skill is indesputable.

Do your homework, brotha.

I did.

Boozer has missed close to 100 games since he signed his new contract.  There has been numerous questions about whether he was milking his injuries.  Further, having watched him defend, he would have fit in perfectly pre-Thibodeau when our defense was a caracature of itself.   But he wouldn't fit into this roster at all.

Fine, you think he milks his injuries. Good with me. I'm not trying to convince you Boozer's a great guy who plays with KG passion every night. 

I'm talking about your very respectful question about when he's scored 25 and 10. He does it all the time. Did you look at the game log? If you can't understand the hard facts about his offensive ability, why should I respect your comments about his defensive ability?

Look, these 'nyah nyah' conversations are tedious. He's not a great defender. He'd be a better defender on the Celtics, because everyone is a better defender on the Celtics -- and defense is about team defense, as every informed NBA fan knows. But you don't take him on to be Perk or KG, you take him on to score and rebound like the elite scorer and rebounder he is. Would you agree he'd immediately be the best post scorer on the Celtics? There's really little argument there.

If you don't like the deal because Boozer's in it, cool. You think he's got a lot in common with Mark Blount and Zach Randolph. I get it. Let's move on.
« Last Edit: November 19, 2009, 06:35:58 PM by ssspence »
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Re: Kooky Trade Idea: Boozer and Kirilenko to the Cs
« Reply #65 on: November 19, 2009, 06:32:54 PM »

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Re: Kooky Trade Idea: Boozer and Kirilenko to the Cs
« Reply #66 on: February 11, 2010, 10:50:15 AM »

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I wish we'd made this trade.
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