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Re: rondo to opt for free agency?
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2009, 12:58:43 PM »

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Can't say that any of this surprises me. The C's will just not overpay for potential. If Rondo comes out and proves that he is an All-Star and becomes a two-time NBA starting PG before the age of 25, don't worry, he will be here a long long time and Ray Allen probably won't be resigned.

If he has another up and down, inconsistent season and continues to show immaturity on the sidelines, in the locker room and on the court, he will be offered a fair deal or shipped out on a sign and trade or even be shipped out at the trading deadline(most likely scenario if by then he hasn't shown the front office and coaching staff what they want to see).

Either way, I think it was destined to come to this and I think it will be the right ending for all involved.

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« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2009, 01:01:04 PM »

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Can't say that any of this surprises me. The C's will just not overpay for potential. If Rondo comes out and proves that he is an All-Star and becomes a two-time NBA starting PG before the age of 25, don't worry, he will be here a long long time and Ray Allen probably won't be resigned.

If he has another up and down, inconsistent season and continues to show immaturity on the sidelines, in the locker room and on the court, he will be offered a fair deal or shipped out on a sign and trade or even be shipped out at the trading deadline(most likely scenario if by then he hasn't shown the front office and coaching staff what they want to see).

Either way, I think it was destined to come to this and I think it will be the right ending for all involved.

If they ship him out at the trading deadline, they can only take back 2.1 million in salary. Even adding TA and/or scal as a warm body, thats alot to give up and only a 9 million dollar player back.

I think the sign and trade is a much more likely scenario.
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Re: rondo to opt for free agency?
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2009, 01:05:37 PM »

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I wonder if he can buy some injury insurance. TA coulda used that

Re: rondo to opt for free agency?
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2009, 01:05:42 PM »

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Can't say that any of this surprises me. The C's will just not overpay for potential. If Rondo comes out and proves that he is an All-Star and becomes a two-time NBA starting PG before the age of 25, don't worry, he will be here a long long time and Ray Allen probably won't be resigned.

If he has another up and down, inconsistent season and continues to show immaturity on the sidelines, in the locker room and on the court, he will be offered a fair deal or shipped out on a sign and trade or even be shipped out at the trading deadline(most likely scenario if by then he hasn't shown the front office and coaching staff what they want to see).

Either way, I think it was destined to come to this and I think it will be the right ending for all involved.

If they ship him out at the trading deadline, they can only take back 2.1 million in salary. Even adding TA and/or scal as a warm body, thats alot to give up and only a 9 million dollar player back.

I think the sign and trade is a much more likely scenario.
Maybe and maybe not. I still think a Rondo and Mike Conley deal with other parts involved is a very fair and doable trade that could happen.

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« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2009, 01:29:37 PM »

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Can't say that any of this surprises me. The C's will just not overpay for potential. If Rondo comes out and proves that he is an All-Star and becomes a two-time NBA starting PG before the age of 25, don't worry, he will be here a long long time and Ray Allen probably won't be resigned.

If he has another up and down, inconsistent season and continues to show immaturity on the sidelines, in the locker room and on the court, he will be offered a fair deal or shipped out on a sign and trade or even be shipped out at the trading deadline(most likely scenario if by then he hasn't shown the front office and coaching staff what they want to see).

Either way, I think it was destined to come to this and I think it will be the right ending for all involved.

If they ship him out at the trading deadline, they can only take back 2.1 million in salary. Even adding TA and/or scal as a warm body, thats alot to give up and only a 9 million dollar player back.

I think the sign and trade is a much more likely scenario.
Maybe and maybe not. I still think a Rondo and Mike Conley deal with other parts involved is a very fair and doable trade that could happen.

Yup.  It is tough to imagine given the C's championship asperations, but a Rondo (and filler) for Conley and Gay or a pick deal would make a ton of sense.  It also could be an option next summer as a sign and trade. 

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« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2009, 01:36:43 PM »

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Can't say that any of this surprises me. The C's will just not overpay for potential. If Rondo comes out and proves that he is an All-Star and becomes a two-time NBA starting PG before the age of 25, don't worry, he will be here a long long time and Ray Allen probably won't be resigned.

If he has another up and down, inconsistent season and continues to show immaturity on the sidelines, in the locker room and on the court, he will be offered a fair deal or shipped out on a sign and trade or even be shipped out at the trading deadline(most likely scenario if by then he hasn't shown the front office and coaching staff what they want to see).

Either way, I think it was destined to come to this and I think it will be the right ending for all involved.

If they ship him out at the trading deadline, they can only take back 2.1 million in salary. Even adding TA and/or scal as a warm body, thats alot to give up and only a 9 million dollar player back.

I think the sign and trade is a much more likely scenario.
Maybe and maybe not. I still think a Rondo and Mike Conley deal with other parts involved is a very fair and doable trade that could happen.

Thats proving talent for potential though.

I would think if were going to trade him mid season, unless we are totally out of it, we'd want an established player back, an impact player.
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Re: rondo to opt for free agency?
« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2009, 01:59:22 PM »

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Yup.  It is tough to imagine given the C's championship asperations, but a Rondo (and filler) for Conley and Gay or a pick deal would make a ton of sense.  It also could be an option next summer as a sign and trade. 

Yeah I don't really care for the S&T scenario if you are going to do it now is the time.  You can't S&T Rondo for Gay because of the BYC rules anyhow.

There is talk that Rondo has moved his family back to Kentucky rom the Boston area.  While Memphis isn't in much of a position to be under the cap next year they have the flexibility to make a move for sure.  He would seem like a perfect face to their franchise as they want to push the ball and they have shooters and bigs in place.  It could be a steal for Boston as well.

Another move I have though about is Monta Ellis.  Not a traditional pg but takes very good care of the ball and is very productive.  Rondo/Scal/TA/Giddens for Ellis/Morrow works salary wise with a roster spot issue for GS.

I expect Ellis to be between Billups and Sam Cassell type player depending on his defensive level and ability to knock down the 3 and he is much further along.

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« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2009, 02:20:14 PM »

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I'd take Rondo for MAX money over any other player not named Dwayne Wade or Deron Williams.

If Rondo leaves...the rebuilding starts. Our Vets will retire eventually leaving us with very little talent outside Perk and Rondo. If we lose Rondo we'll be a TERRIBLE team in a few nears from now. We'd go back to being a 24-58 team. Danny can keep us competitive if he holds onto Rondo and puts the right players around him.

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« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2009, 03:04:37 PM »

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Rondo will not get a MAX offer from any other team. Thing is he might be looking for the same contract that Aldridge got from Portland.

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« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2009, 03:07:20 PM »

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Can't say that any of this surprises me. The C's will just not overpay for potential. If Rondo comes out and proves that he is an All-Star and becomes a two-time NBA starting PG before the age of 25, don't worry, he will be here a long long time and Ray Allen probably won't be resigned.

If he has another up and down, inconsistent season and continues to show immaturity on the sidelines, in the locker room and on the court, he will be offered a fair deal or shipped out on a sign and trade or even be shipped out at the trading deadline(most likely scenario if by then he hasn't shown the front office and coaching staff what they want to see).

Either way, I think it was destined to come to this and I think it will be the right ending for all involved.

If they ship him out at the trading deadline, they can only take back 2.1 million in salary. Even adding TA and/or scal as a warm body, thats alot to give up and only a 9 million dollar player back.

I think the sign and trade is a much more likely scenario.

I totally agree. This could end up going much like the Glen Davis situation did. If someone signs Rondo to an offer sheet, the C's will simply match.

With the salary cap likely going down, I doubt any team will be rolling out a max contract for Rondo. If anything, It could actually decrease Rondo's value on the open market. Couple that will all the bigtime URFA's that will be out there and I think when all is said and done, RR will be wearing Green for many years to come.

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« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2009, 03:40:29 PM »

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Why should the Celtics bid against themselves a year early-- unless they can get a lowball deal?  And why should Rondo acept a lowball deal when he can potentially get much more next Summer?

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« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2009, 04:10:51 PM »

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Why should the Celtics bid against themselves a year early-- unless they can get a lowball deal?  And why should Rondo acept a lowball deal when he can potentially get much more next Summer?

  Isn't the simplest answer "that's just the way it is"? Aside from max contract types every year there are players in Rondo's boat and every year some of them get deals. The players get security and don't have to deal with contract talk or free agency. The team locks the player up for a number of years at a reasonable price. Rondo, last year, was in the discussion for the all-star team. His play improved a great deal from the year before. His play in the postseason was much better than the year before. He's already a top 5-9 pg depending on who you ask. He'll be the best pg available next offseason. A reasonable deal this offseason could be a lowball one next season. Everyone says that if Rondo improves then the Celts will gladly pay him the deal that he's worth next summer. Apply that to Perk, though. Would the Celts gladly pay him twice what he's making? Possibly. But would they rather pay him $4M than $8M? Of course. Teams need to manage their budgets and one way they try and do it is to lock up players at reasonable contracts.

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« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2009, 05:10:00 PM »

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No way is Rondo worth more than Perk
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« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2009, 05:24:06 PM »

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Rondo will never be an MVP of any type but he thinks he is and that's the problem.  It is true he can once in a while connect on an alley oop pass but as someone said, that's about it.  He can drive but he misses more bunnies than Elmer Fudd.  His little cute moves of swinging the ball behind his back and letting the ball roll down the court do not add anything to his game.  Also, he is the worst FT shooting PG in the league.

He's no Antonio Daniels that's for sure.

Love the post about Rondo not running the offense. ha
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« Reply #29 on: October 27, 2009, 05:26:54 PM »

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No way is Rondo worth more than Perk

I beg to differ.  In fact he'll double perks money. 
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